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Ray's Current Condition - May 13th, 2009
lq1over:
thanks for the update. As I read this out loud to my wife this morning we both choked back tears. Ray you mean so much to us, over the last few years reading and studying your papers it has given us such freedom. The Son has truly set us free indeed. Your faithfulness to teach God's truths as he has revealed them to you, we will always be certain that it was God's Will, We pray that God continue to give strength and peace of mind in your weakness that you and all the elect may know that God is faithful to complete his work. we pray that God would keep you on our minds both day and night to pray without ceasing for comfort and that God's will be done. We certainly understand why you have not posted new teachings but even this update and all the responses is an inspiration and a teaching about how God has knitted us together for such a time as this.
we love you Ray.
Larry (lqover1) and Louann (artsea)
Samson:
Dear Ray,
As I read your description and list of physical ailments that you've endured for the last
ten months, I couldn't help thinking of Job and his suffering. God's Spirit must be helping
you have the will to endure and not give up and give in. Most people would have given up,
not wanting to suffer any longer, Praise be to our God for sustaining you. That constant
coughing and the itchy boils are an ailment I wouldn't wish on anyone, yet in all your
suffering, you think of our Spiritual needs by developing other articles for our benefit.
I don't know of anyone that would do that for others, aside from Jesus, Paul and the
rest of God's Elect. Sometimes the way I act, I don't deserve any of this and feel shame
for being who I am.
Thankyou Kindly & Godspeed, Samson.
Ninny:
I think we are all thinking of Job right about now! When I read this message from Ray I saw something in his words that made my heart soar, I saw a determination that even in sickness he is making plans for the things he still wants to do.
Ray knows that his days are all numbered by God and he will do whatever God calls him to do. I am so glad that he knows he is loved by all of us here. We will all gain strength from knowing that Ray is resting in the hand of God. He is not one to mince words, we have heard him so many times say what God lays on his heart to say. He has given us a sketch of what his life is like right now and thus an outline as to how to pray for him.
I know that God has a plan for Ray and for us all! He has laid out for us a path that God has led us to, now we have to go down this path and wait for God's direction. We will all be brave as Ray has asked and we will not lose faith, and we will be strong! God is revealing light to more and more people all the time through Ray's work. We are called to pray, and to hold fast, the rest is in God's hands! so we...
pray..pray...pray..in courage,
Kathy :-* :D
Linny:
Praying for Ray's miracle.
Thank you Ray for the faith and determination you show during such a trial as this.
May we all be found as faithful.
Lin
jeetkunejimi:
It could go without saying what Ray's site has meant or means to many of 'us', but I feel it apt to share what it has meant to me and my wife and our 3 children in the light of Ray's illness.
I was a pretty good heathen, I'm not perfect now either. I stole from my family, robbed from shops, vandalised property, caused people bodily harm with my fists and weapons, slept around, used drugs, drank till drunk,insulted my parents and terrorised peole with violence as a debt collector, all of which I no longer do praise God and all of which I am fully ASHAMED of before God and men.
Well..One day I went to a church, taken by my 'born again' older brother Keith who was a accomplished guitarist and was now in the church worship group, his past was way more lurid than mine, but I had noticed the dramatic change in him. I was a rock & Jazz drummer and the worship teams drummer had left a year earlier and the chair was still vacant. It was a Pentacostal church, tongues and all,lol, and I was skeptical but felt it was a good place as my brother had changed and was loving attending. It wasn't long before I was the church drummer in the worship team, baptised in water, born again, and singing my socks of.
Little did I know that one of the worship team singers would be the girl of my dreams. Heck little did I know that she would be my lake of fire on earth,lol. I married Helen and we rose over the next 10yrs to be bible study group leaders, youth leaders, outreach leader, and of course worship leaders with our musical abilities. Then one day I was awoken from my sleep with a dream, a prophesy. I was raught with fear, sweating, nothing like this had ever happened to me before it was about 4am on Sunday morning. I tried to shrug the dream of but 3 more times I was awoken and in the end at 6am I went to my gym built off the side of my house and took my bible to pray. I was there till 9am.
I knew that this word was for the congregation and that it wasn't going to be a good one, it still wasn't clear exactly what it was but it sat like a large granite stone in my stomach, I felt increasingly sick. Anyway 10am came and we went to church even though I tried not to go but my wife forced me to go, I kept telling her that something was wrong and that I knew I was going to do something but she wouldn't have it and just said let God be God.
So the meeting began, I could hardly play, I was shaking, I dropped my sticks a couple of times. Then the time of the congregation to praise and speak aloud came just after the worship as it was done every Sunday morning. As people began to speak and read out of the bible in turn then suddenly it hit me, I shot to my feet and rivers of words condeming the Church (all churches) came flooding out of my mouth. I was shouting so loud I could feel my temples bursting, it was over powering me. When I had finished I fell to my knees exhausted and sicker than ever pouring with sweat, it was as if I been is a violent fight like in my past but a 100 times worse. bY THE TIME THE pASTOR HAD REALISED WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND TRIED DESPERATELY TO GET ME TO SHUT UP BY PASSING ME THE BREAD AND WINE, it was over. The room was in a deathly huss untill a minute later a freind of mine fell to his knees and prophesised something confirming my words.
After that day, the church hierarchy tried to smooth things over, but you can't smooth over God's words. I began to ask questions and to question Orthodoxy. My wife was distraught, she had attended the church for 15yrs, it was her life, and we were now having to contemplate leaving as we were increasingly being ostrasized by our supposed fellow congregation mambers and supposed christian friends and brothers and sisters.
One day I just could no longer believe in a God who would send His wayward children to Hell, after all few were more wayward than me and my brother, why should we get saved and not Hitler? So I went to my computer and typed in the Lake of fire and lo and behold Ray's site popped up "Bible Truths". How apt I thought and suddenly I was gripped in page after page of Ray's explinations, false doctrine after false doctrine, was brought to light. I spent a whole week sat infront of my PC, NO WORK, NO SOCIALISING, NO CHURCH,just a whole week with sandwiches infront of my PC reading Ray's teachings. My head fell off! I had only ever before that moment beeen able to look at a PC screen for about 5mins without going dizzy, but for hours and hours and hours I could look at Bible truths. My wife and I then had the biggest argument that we have ever had over 'Freewill doctrine'. We nearly seperated it was that serious. I banged on at her relentlessly as if possessed that freewill was a false doctrine and new light seemed to be gushing into my mind everytime I read one of Ray's teachings and then followed them up in my KJV bible which very soon became a CLNT & an Emphatic Diaglott.
To my releif Helen finally had an epiphany on freewill, it was like a real baptism in fire, we had finlly realised God truly was soverign. I knew what God wanted me to do now, there was no choice, I went into the church one night with my set of keys and packed up my beloved drum kit and left the keys through the letter box. The pastor flew round my house the next day to yet again do a damage control mission but it was too late, to my surprise and the pastors my wife put him right on scripture and read from Jeremiah to him. That wasn't the last of the accusations and defamations that theat church tried to stir in order to cover their shortcomings, but all the time a still small voice inside of me was saying, "Be quite, as my Son was before his accusers."
Today I couldn't be happier in my relationship with Christ or evermore grateful for what he has done, is doing and will do. I still have health problems myself and I can somewhat empathise with Ray's plight. I am truly greatful to Ray and he has been mightily used by God, and trust me that is all the honour any man or woman could hope for in life to be a worthy vessel unto God's grand plan.
If I was still a marine I would salute Ray, but I'm not I'm a soldier for the TRUE gospel of Christ and so I will continue to pray for Ray's recovery, but I will also end my prayer's as I always do, "BUT NOT MY WILL BUT YOUR WILL BE DONE FATHER, AMEN."
GOD BLESS US, AND CORRECT US ALL, WE NEED IT.
May God continue to bless and use Ray to establish His kingdom and other's like him. May his family be blessed with the strenght to support Ray in this troubled time and may Ray be blessed with more insightful papers.
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