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Trying for Patience
NoviceBeliever:
I started to post this under an ongoing topic earlier this morning, but then realized, that what I was really asking for was for some support and prayers...
My chest is tight, my skin is crawling, my brow is furrowed, and I can't seem to be comfortable or quiet in my mind.
I have little patience when it comes to seeking knowledge, I want to understand what I seek...I read, I read, I read and I keep reading some more...I call out in my mind for HIM to open my eyes and ears and let me see and hear...and what I hear is you didn't learn how to tie your shoe by yourself or overnight, it took you more than a moment to learn how to ride a bike, you couldn't bake a cake without a recipe, you needed help to learn how to paint...knit a scarf and do so many other things in your life, so why do you think that understanding of GOD's plan for you will be instantaneous?!?!
GOD please give me patience...please give me patience, but also please keep me so uncomfortable that I keep searching and searching for the truth that you want me to see and hear.
NB
Marky Mark:
--- Quote from: NoviceBeliever on May 18, 2009, 03:06:38 PM ---I started to post this under an ongoing topic earlier this morning, but then realized, that what I was really asking for was for some support and prayers...
My chest is tight, my skin is crawling, my brow is furrowed, and I can't seem to be comfortable or quiet in my mind.
I have little patience when it comes to seeking knowledge, I want to understand what I seek...I read, I read, I read and I keep reading some more...I call out in my mind for HIM to open my eyes and ears and let me see and hear...and what I hear is you didn't learn how to tie your shoe by yourself or overnight, it took you more than a moment to learn how to ride a bike, you couldn't bake a cake without a recipe, you needed help to learn how to paint...knit a scarf and do so many other things in your life, so why do you think that understanding of GOD's plan for you will be instantaneous?!?!
GOD please give me patience...please give me patience, but also please keep me so uncomfortable that I keep searching and searching for the truth that you want me to see and hear.
NB
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An email to Ray,I hope it is of some assistance. :)
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6055.0.html
I just found your website! And can’t wait to get home to go through it all! I praise God for what occurred this morning – because it lead me in search and I found your website. May God continue to give you wisdom and to others through it.
When I became a Christian one of the 1st things I was taught was not to pray for “patience”. Probably because that’s the first thing we ask – when we want more of the spirit and less of the flesh. So I’ve gone around for 6 yrs believing we should not – I don’t think I ever placed a high importance on trying to find it in scripture, because somehow my spirit is led to pray for God’s love onto others, His strength and mostly God’s His Will not mine. But recently (at a women’s bible study) someone asked God for Patience with their children, all the other women told her “we can not pray for patience” and I agreed as well. I received a hurtful call – accusing me of telling someone something that is not true. As God knows my heart…I would never mis-quote the word of God intentionally. I explained to the person that this is something I was taught by my first past or (a man seeking after God’s heart) and that I believed it to be true. I said I would do my very best to find scripture on it.
Please! Can you help? Can you give me clarity on this? Thanks. Blessings Rosie
Dear Rosie: You are to be commended for seeking Scriptural backing for the things that you believe. I cannot even begin to imagine why Christians would teach others that they should not pray for patience. The foolish superstitions of many Christians are bewildering. OF COURSE you should and need to pray for patience:
Col 1:8 Who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit.
Col 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, DO NOT CEASE TO PRAY FOR YOU, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
Col 1:10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
Col 1:11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all PATIENCE AND LONG SUFFERING [long suffering is just another form of patience] with joyfulness;
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father [that's PRAYING], which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
And so we have Scriptural authority that two things that we are to "Give thanks unto the Father [in prayer]," and "pray without ceasing," is for "PATIENCE AND LONG SUFFERING."
God be with you, Ray
Peace...Mark
Dave in Tenn:
I look at it this way, NB. If the likes of me could understand it all quickly and completely, then it's hardly something all that magnificent. I'm very thankful that we don't have a 'creed' or something we can mouth-along to. It's the digging itself, and the contemplation, prayer, meditation, and confirmation that goes along with every 'gain' in understanding that makes the difference.
The scripture really IS the Words of God. We are to worship Him in Spirit and Truth. That's a relationship whose surest foundation is Scripture, rightly divided, spiritually discerned, and above all obeyed and lived. We know 'in part' for a good reason, and it sounds to me like you are expereincing that reason.
Welcome, and hang in there.
NoviceBeliever:
Mark and Dave~ God is showing me that I am at the start of a long journey but that he will guide me through his love. Thank you both so much! NB
meee:
--- Quote from: NoviceBeliever on May 18, 2009, 03:06:38 PM ---
GOD please give me patience...please give me patience, but also please keep me so uncomfortable that I keep searching and searching for the truth that you want me to see and hear.
NB
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I include in my prayers,"Let me not be deceived by anything or anyone. I only want your Truth!"
NB, thank God, time isn't the same with our God as we see it. To us it is soooo slow and we don't see progress, or maybe a tiny bit of progress, but He is just taking His time and He will perfect that which concerns us. He has begun the work and He will finish it , giving us understanding of each and everything He has for us to know and believe . In His timing, we are exactly where He intends us to be.
meee :)
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