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Marky Mark:
George is right on in his post. But there is something that has to occur first.

Email to Ray.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7397.0.html

Dear Ryan:  I'm afraid we have all learned the hard way that most people have no interest in the Truths of God WHATSOEVER.  They love religion, but not the Truths of God. There has to have been a good reason for Peter to admonish:

        1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man THAT ASKS Y-O-U  a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

        There's the key: only give an answer to those who ask YOU, or are definitely interested.

        God be with you,

        Ray






Peace...Mark

daywalker:
Gosh, Carrie contradicts herself and the Scriptures so much, I could write a book about it.. [kinda like that Jim guy I was talking with a few weeks ago...]  ???

I was very tempted to leave my "2 cents", but decided against it. I'm DONE wasting my time with people who obviously don't want to hear the Truth.

Matthew 7:6 "You may not be giving that which is holy to curs, nor yet should you be casting your pearls in front of hogs, lest at some time they shall be trampling them with their feet and, turning, they should be tearing you."

My home is here; and I hope that God can use me to drag a few people here. But I'm not going to go out 'fishing' for them. I'll let God do the dragging.  ;)

7 "Request and it shall be given you. Seek and you shall find. Knock and it shall be opened to you.
8 For everyone who is requesting is obtaining, and who is seeking is finding, and to him who is knocking it shall be opened."


- Daywalker.  8)

Samson:

--- Quote from: Jacobs Ladder on May 20, 2009, 12:13:57 PM ---I was reading where Carrie Bradshaw who is the one who is quoting incorrect Scripture and consigning everyone to Hell except for her and her friends, she said paul instructs us (her) to brush off her feet and depart, yet she can't.  Her ego and pride are huge and she can't let it go.  she feels the need to Save Hell No's soul and she enjoys people reading where she thinks she is proving him wrong.  She comes off as enjoying the attention she creates in the debate.  for her it is a matter of proving others wrong, whereas Hell No and others are trying to get her to see God's truths out of love.  As I see it, Hell No has a "blog" where he posts his beliefs which is in harmony w/Ray's material.  Ms. Bradshaw decided to interject her opinion and attempt to point out where Hell No is wrong.  She asks for scripture showing where God will save all.  She is given not 1 scripture but a multitude and she rejects all of them.  Clearly she is blind.  It's really amazing to be on the flip side.  I am so very grateful that I was never indoctrinated into believing all the lies she holds dearly.  I didn't have the exact details but I never thought Satan could thwart God's plan and always said it never made sense to me how perfect beings were created then sinned.  I didn't beleive Christianity's lies I just didn't know the exact truths so I was left ignorant for a time.  Thankfully, God choose to open my eyes and ears and point me in the right direction.

One can only pray that He sees fit to do the same for any who read Hell No's blogs

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Jacobsladder,
      
                   Take heart my Brother, I read your responses to Ms. Bradshaw, you did an admirable job in support of
                   our position, apparently at present, she can't see it, Hell hath no fury, than a Christian shown the truth.

                   Who knows, maybe it might take a personal experience of some sort to provide a glimmer of light. To
                   illustrate, a close family member turning to a sinfull course in life and her faced with the prospect of
                   that person going to her " Eternal Hell " with no future hope of redemption. These real life experiences
                   can truly humble people, before they start to see these Truths.

                                                Well Done, Samson.

daywalker:

--- Quote from: Jacobs Ladder on August 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM ---So I'm sitting at work minding my own business when I checked my jacobbsladdr email.  I had a "nice" present from one Ms. Carrie Bradshaw now aka Judah's daughter, although I am pretty sure Judah didn't have any daughters only sons, makes you wonder if Carrie isn't really "Carl".

I had sent her a email a while ago during the big uproar on hubpages.  Oddly enough she appears to be much nicer in her communications in private than in public but that could be her ego.  I can't say I'm surprised at her comments.  But it does give pretty good insight to how or why she believes what she believes.  She doesn't understand that the things she says contradict each other.  It appears she takes each scripture at it's own value and doesn't compare or even care too.  To her, if a Scripture states the sky is red with pink and blue polka dots, if another Scripture stated it was green with orange and purple polka dots, it's ok because neither is referencing the other.  they is no connection.  She doesn't view the Scriptures as all interpreting another.  Each stands on it's own merits.

Below is her email.

Hi JL,

While I re-read Hebrews 11, it begins with Abel and states he died in verse 4. Verse 5 is about Enoch and that he did not see death. The remaining people listed are said to have all died without receiving the promise of the Messiah, in which they had faith. The Apostle Paul said he knew of a man who went to the "third heaven" or "Paradise" 1 Cor 12:2-4. This may be the "bosom of Abraham"; I don't know. I only put in my hub the scripture and people can read into it what they read into it. I didn't go on to say Enoch never died; I just wrote what is written about him.

My hubs are written with scripture and very little of my own narration. Like you, you hav e a perspective of the scripture, for instance, that the beast (the beast who comes up out of the sea) is each person, believer or not. I think this is contradictory, in that a person who is filled with the Holy Spirit is not of the beast, nor shall ever be. I do not criticize your hubs, for I understand that you have an understanding as you perceive it and have the conviction to write your perceptions to the world, as I do.

So, respectfully, I do appreciate your input; yet, I cannot say I am fully convinced. We don't know if Paradise is where the Father is. We only know souls are shown in the Word to either go to Paradise or Hades until the judgment day of the Lord (which, I know you don't believe). Because death nor life, nor anything else can separate us from the love of God, for the Word says, "though I make my bed in hell (the grave), Thou art there", we know that we are never separated from the love of our Lord. I have a hub on heaven that shows the souls communicating in a loud voice with our Lord asking Him when He will avenge them to those who dwell on the earth, indicating they are not on the earth, but in the presence of the Lord.

I wish you the very best and our hearts do seek His truth until the day we are appointed to die, unless He comes first. The Word is also clear that not all will die, but "we who are alive and remain will be changed and caught up to meet the Lord in the air". That puts a damper on your claim that ALL will DIE, as well as a damper on ALL will be SAVED.

Amen.


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What's up, Jacob

Yeah, I was emailing back and forth with Carrie for a good 2 weeks during that whole 'attack' on Hell No's hubpage. She then commented a few times on mine. True, she was much more kind in private emails, but likewise true she contradicts herself way too much. I pointed out several of her contradictions and her basic response was, "'well, this is the way I believe" or "You know, I don't know..." Yeah, you're right, I know that you don't know... [No, I didn't say that part, but I should have...] ;D

One major altercation was when she kept calling Ray a cult leader and his followers a cult, and I told her that she should read a few of Ray's articles on BT as well as visit our Forum before she condemned the man. Her response was "I won't, I don't wanna be deceived". I told her that it was ignorant and blatant deception on her part to write hubs condemning a man she knew nothing about. She didn't like that...  :D

After awhile, I just stopped replying to her, and I haven't heard from her since. It's like Ray has said before that you'll never argue a person into accepting the Truth... But I have prayed for her several times, and who knows, maybe she is reading our hubs... God's Will Be Done; there's no reason for me to worry about it.


Peace, Out

Daywalker.  8)

Ninny:
Guys,
Well you know Ms. Bradshaw just met her match in all of you..She gave up on Hell No because he's just as stubborn as she is! He could not be moved even though she and all of her friends tried to make him look like a fool..I told him this..You guys may have been nicer to her than he was. Whatever the reason, I actually said she was a shrew who was tamed or at least quieted! You guys have done a good job presenting the truth..you guys and Hell No are truth and passion, it is very good! You did a good job! Who knows someone must be finding truth in all of it!! 8)
Kathy ;)

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