Going through Dr.Steger video - this is quiet a challenge I mean its worse than PT course , I was sitting this morning after watching it last night feeling totally guilty, this body being Gods Temple and all - Me have to have coffee,meat and very little water in fact if i can help it non at all ... and that small voice spoke to me in a quiet time this morning and the words kill eat came to me...
I recall Peter being shown a scroll in a vision 3 times the command came to him
I enlisted Googles services which took me to Acts ch 10
Act 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common
Act 10:16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
Was he talking about food or was he talking about the upcoming meeting with Cornelias.[Gentile]
The scroll clearly depicts all types of animals including reptiles - this is for our consumption and has been "cleansed"
Weird, I knew a chap - total health nut no pun intended, always eating salad,fruit,veg and white meats very healthy until one day as he was leaving a sushi bar
was run over by a car ....
Ian
Hi Ian,
Dr. Steger had a lot of good info on how to live a more healthy lifestyle, but let's face it the man carried it way to the extreme. I would say it would be good to learn a bit from what he says and try to impliment a few of the things he says, but anything should be done in moderation. If we are not careful any physical thing could become an idol of the heart, like trying to eat only clean/healthy foods.
What is an idol of the heart... well what is an idol - an object of passionate devotion. So there should be nothing, besides God, that in our heart we have a passionate devotion for... and why is that?
Mar 4:19 and the cares of this world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things entering in choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Now the Scripture in Acts 10 where Peter saw the sheet come down with all the animals in it, well Scriptures have many layers of meaning. Physically, yes it speaks of all animals being clean.
1Co 10:25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake;
v. 26 for "the earth is the LORD's, and all its fullness."
v. 27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience' sake.
Mat 15:11 Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.
But spiritual speaking Acts 10 does speak of the Gentiles as well.
Acts 14:27 Now when they had come and gathered the church together, they reported all that God had done with them, and that He had opened the door of faith to the Gentiles.
Hope that helps.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Yeah I agree I thought the scroll referred to the Gentiles ch10 starts with Cornelias then Peter gets shown the vision then the meeting takes place - I can't fit "Kill and eat" in the same context though,
point is I agree, a moderate or reasonable diet should be followed but to panic about all these different theories which are and can really get you messed up is not what the word is telling us - all things are permissable all are not profitable "do not worry about life ,what you will eat"... is what you are saying - Be sober, moderate, reasonable, of a sound mind
So, how bad is Coffee for one, any thoughts
Can the flip side of being too health conscious (becoming an idle)......to being TOO UN-health conscious also be a sin? If so, i am definately guilty. BTW, i am not a lazy person, my life on the farm does provide me with lots of physical labor/activity, but i just don't really care about my health/weight etc.....Is this sin? I don't think really believe when God talks about taking care of our body as His temple that He is talking about the outward appearance.....
Hope i didn't go too far off subject with my comments. :-\
lauri
Ok I will - to finish, Kat has nailed this down - its not what goes into the body
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Yeah John, HaHa... Actually I was impressed with Dr. Steger's devotion to learning about and applying the healthest lifestyle he possibly could. But would never want to live like him, I mean the man is obsessed with this thing. Not to mention it's totally going against the way of this world... wait a min. something sounds familiar here. Anyway how does he live without enjoying milk and cookies or ice cream, but maybe he has some kind of healthy version he (his wife) makes :P
Kat
Nice comment Gina. Mat 15:11 "Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man." The Lord is not saying that physical food cannot defile your "physical" body. He's saying that physical food (or what goes into the mouth) cannot define your character. There are many things which can defile your physical body. Gina just gave an example. Coffee may be ok at a certain amount, but it inevitably becomes a poison at a certain dosage depending on the individual, and that is a fact. A 17 year old named Jasmin overdosed from 7 double espressos and was rushed to the hospital. In 2010 and 23 year old British man died after consuming 2 spoon fulls of pure caffeine powder. One time I took a 200mg caffeine pill when I was younger and my heart was beating a million miles per hour. Dosage is the key. Vitamin A has even poisoned people who have consumed too much of it. Today we know WAY more about the function of the human body.Ok I will - to finish, Kat has nailed this down - its not what goes into the body
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Actually, it is important what we put in our bodies.
Simple example: It's lawful for me to drink 5 cups of cafe a day; God's not going to call me on the carpet for it.
But it's not EXPEDIENT for me to drink that much cafe because I personally [we're talking about me - not you, Ian] get the jitters BIG TIME and will turn around and snap and bite someone's head off in a flash. See? That's when drinking 5 cups of coffee crosses the line from being something that is lawful but is not expedient.
It's also not expedient for me to drink that much cafe because I am personally convinced it screws with my estrogen and that makes me a danger to society. ;D
And that's why I need a Savior because there are some things we need saving from, even if they are "lawful."