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on: Yesterday at 12:46:54 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by octoberose | ||
I’m late to the party - What is a Universalist Mystic ? And I read other peoples stuff and because of the education I’ve received here for over a decade I can weed out what misses the mark. And when I comment on free will being a fallacy or all being reconciled to God, of course I get a lot of push back - but Not always. Sometimes I think my little contribution helps their understanding. I still think what we do matters - it’s’ not that God is not Sovereign, it’s that He has let us take part . I want to take part in the great good news - why would I not want that ? This is a group that has spent , what, almost two decades trying to get God’s Word out ? I think that’s wonderful. I’m so grateful. Why would we not want to spread the news , no matter what the push back is ?
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on: Yesterday at 05:36:01 AM
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Started by Dave in Tenn - Last post by Rhys 🕊 | ||
Prayers it all works out for you Dave. For me after losing my wife it continues to be a struggle with moments of depression and missing her a lot. I hope one day I can be with her again. My faith in God has taken a bit of a hit but still there but sure do question a lot of things. I feel like you gotta keep fighting to keep going but sometimes I don’t have much fight left in me. I live near the ocean and it’s a nice place to be.
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on: October 07, 2024, 05:14:53 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Musterseed | ||
I need to make a correction on a statement I made.I left out a word.
I said Wow 😮 I just learned this today about the Psalms and prophecy not SOLELY about predicting the future,,,,,,,,,,, Sorry, my bad, I left out the word solely. God Bless You All Pamela💕 |
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on: October 05, 2024, 11:44:32 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Musterseed | ||
1 John 4:17….. As He is, so are we in the world.
Mark 13:13 and Luke 21:17…. You will be hated by all for My name sake………. From …. Where we got the Bible, Ray writes 2 Tim. 3:16… All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. “ All Scripture, okay. One of the definitions of prophecy or prophesying, is inspired teaching, singing and writing, it’s prophesying. Prophesying does NOT mean solely predicting the future. Any singing, teaching, or writing is prophesying. See 2 Peter 1: 19. ANY SCRIPTURE.If it’s inspired of God it’s a spirit of prophecy, even if it’s a song that you sing, [ the psalms are songs, they are prophecy]. If it’s inspired of God it’s prophecy. You got that? That’s an important point because you need to remember as you study the Scripture from here on out.” Ray. So we got teaching, and writing and singing 🎶 ( a New Song) on Bible- Truths.com The Title stands up to its name , inspired by God. That makes it prophecy. Wow 😮 I just learned this today about the Psalms and prophecy not about predicting the future, that makes sense now. Awesome. Yeah, Ray took a lot of hate because they despise the word of God. Isa 30: 12-14,, Isa. 30: 8-11, Ezekiel 13 and 1 Sam.9:9. I want to paraphrase something Ray said in His TEACHING on The sovereignty of God and Him repenting of creating humanity. That’s a great study by the way.😁 He said something like” who wants to attribute these meanings ( talking about a definition of the word repent) to God and not expect a lightening bolt to come through the ceiling? Woe, it will be ill with them. God taught the angels to sing. And they all sang together. Keep the unity of the Spirit. In Christs name , Amen. |
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on: October 05, 2024, 04:15:31 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Dennis Vogel | ||
About a year ago YouTube decided 'universalism' is something I'm interested in and found about a dozen universal channels for me.
One of the universalism channels was devoted to disproving certain L Ray Smith's teachings and I watched several of these videos and foolishly commented in a few of them. Watching these other channels I was always able to find errors in their teachings with a few exceptions like Tent Maker. Ray received many thousands of emails over the years challenging his teachings. A few were legitimate minor points and Ray had me correct the text. And some were just typo's that got past myself and others that helped with the text proofing before publishing. I don't know of any other universalism site that received even a fraction of the scrutiny in the emails/comments Ray received. |
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on: October 05, 2024, 09:53:35 AM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by ZekeSr | ||
I just watched it so here is what I gleaned from it. Pam, you have reminded me of something that Ray had said quite often about scripture… that we must “pay attention to all the words”. I guess it holds true with everything everywhere in life, both written or spoken. However, from my perspective (and mine alone), it didn’t matter. I’ve long since grown past those statements that I missed. I was so intrigued by the primary core of the video backing up Ray’s teaching on the lake of fire that the underlying statements flew right over my head. I’m not excusing myself. I’m thanking you for bringing it to my attention. I’m surprised, as I usually catch those things. I’m glad I put it to the test on this forum. With that being said, I don’t believe the man is lying in the pure sense. He knows what he knows… as do we all. And within the confines of what he knows, he has done his homework. It reminds me to always stay humble in the gift of any knowledge we’ve been granted. It can be a long bumpy road from perceived certainty to actual fact. Which brings me to your response, Dave. I'm always a little leery even discussing "free will" because the term is usually without a definition. People can say they believe in free will simply out of ignorance or laziness when what they truly believe is the sovereignty of God. I remember my involvement with the World Wide Church, when I thought I’d found it for sure. And the strange miracle which quite literally blocked me from entering any further into the depths of that church—something I described in my very first post. This was followed by decades of pretty much just being out there in the world. And here I am now with Bible Truths. Porter, I hear what you’re saying, brother.
While I might check out some more of this man’s videos sometime due to a certain inquisitiveness, I have no intention of delving into various forms of universalism or anything else for that matter. And like you, I am no teacher. I have been given revelations in scripture that I realize to be true and yet have never seen or heard anywhere else. Nevertheless, I cannot express them openly. I know where I am. I know where I’ve been led. Thank you all. This has been quite helpful for me. Mike |
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on: October 04, 2024, 11:44:21 PM
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Started by aktikt - Last post by aktikt | ||
Hi all,
Something has bothered me from time to time and maybe one of you all can explain. In Matthew 24, there is a lot about very visible troubles if they are literal. For example, "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places." And then there's this: "How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For at that time there will be great tribulation,unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. 22If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short." Now, given all these things that would presumably not being done in a corner and have the whole world on edge. How then can we have this: "As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man." So, how can they be oblivious of the above events such that they are marrying and are given in marriage. It seems like it's hard to be oblivious to events that are rocking the world to such an extent that you're like yeah let's get married next week. Thanks, Josh |
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on: October 04, 2024, 07:08:04 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Daddysgirl.2 | ||
I just watched it so here is what I gleaned from it. "The best lie is one closest to the truth." |
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on: October 03, 2024, 10:02:18 AM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Porter | ||
I engaged in a discussion with a universalist mystic several months back, and I'm not gonna lie, he fooled me good. I started beliving some of the lies he was saying because he talked with such eloquence and intelligence. Like Pamela said, he mixed truth with lies and it was very convincing - probably one of the most convincing liars I've ever come across.
It wasn't until I realized that he had been passively accusing me of "literalizing" the bible and beliving in "legalism" that I finally stopped engaging him and following him, but not after I told him I knew what he was doing. He continued to indirectly accuse me and boy I began to hate him. I'm still a little sore about it, but my wounds are slowly healing. The good part about all this is I learned way more about the law of Moses and law of Christ because of my discussions with this mystic. But the best part was the fact I learned I'm not a teacher and that I need to be more careful with what I say. I think I prefer to be a student as that is more my speed. Students are allowed to make mistakes, whereas teachers must be perfect in what they say. I believe Satan and by extention his children are cunning and subtle, and the moment I think that I can't be deceived is the same moment that I am being deceived. Even to his children is Satan cunning and subtle so they can't know the truth. What we have here at BT is very unique in my opinion. I've seen the spiritual truths seperate many and it genuinley makes me sad because of the incredibly good news and better things contained in the spirit. It's like a taste of Jesus. I've studied many beliefs through the testimony of others, especially the beliefs found in universalism. Many of their beliefs are tame and loveable even. However, when it comes to "free will" and "the problem of evil" and parables in general, it convinces me that I was never looking for God to begin with. |
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on: October 03, 2024, 08:51:41 AM
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Started by Dave in Tenn - Last post by Dave in Tenn | ||
The aforementioned procedure did not turn into a "treatment" and was ultimately simply diagnostic. The only firm date I have for another procedure is also only diagnostic. Between the two, perhaps there is some procedure they can do that is "treatment". At present, I am on the medical assembly line waiting for all the stars and planets to align. Apparently. Nobody has told me anything different and no firm decisions and dates have been made. I'm likely here till the end of the year, or close to it anyway. I hope to take my life back about then and spend what's left of it somewhere besides a bedroom in my sister's house. Somewhere with pineapple and an ocean breeze would be nice. Somewhere I could actually begin to use all the Spanish I've been learning. I know just the place. It's not paradise, but it ain't bad.
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