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I think i speak for all that don't have a physical "church" that we don't feel completely comfortable with that I don't know maybe loneliness but remember "they will cast you out of their synagogues"..."i will smite the shepherd and scatter the flock"..."gather together his elect from the four winds" etc. (maybe that makes some kind of sense)

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WE are to episunagoge (assemble) on a higher plane, in a higher realm, in a spiritual assembly, IN THE SPIRIT!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

When Ray taught this lesson about "Assembling together in the Spirit, I remember feeling that another "nugget" of truth was just revealed.  It made so much sense to me considering that most of us did not live near anyone else who was like-minded in worship.  I did, however, take much pleasure in attending the Bible Conferences Ray and Dennis organized in those few short years of Ray's ministry. 

I don't know if it's correct, hence me putting it out there. I guess I'm just looking for assurance and a better way to look at Mat 24:21,22.

I often find myself thinking about how, and why, I know the Bible truths that I know. In just thinking/meditating during the day the question will come to mind as to why should I know what I know about God, and Christ, and Their plan, and all of the things I have learned since coming to Bible truths. I mean I KNOW me, and I would not choose me to understand…but then I have to quickly remind myself that I only know what I know because it is God’s will that I do, and that  it has absolutely nothing to do with ME.  It is His desire that I know. While I can’t understand it….I have to accept it, and I am trying to. These thoughts really do arise frequently.


So Bible-truths is Ray’s legacy…to me, and to all. Yes Dennis is owed much thanks, and of course it is all of God, but I keep going back to Ray and where he directs/teaches me in scripture and how God focuses my thinking. I wrote in my introduction (I think) when I first came onboard the Forum, that I was directed (dragged maybe) to BT in early 2019. I slowly read all of the Lake of Fire once (and certain chapters more than once) but concentrated at first mostly on the emails to Ray and his answers. I learned a lot from those questions and answers. It was some months before I even realized there were the you tube videos, and I spent many hours rewatching watching all of those over and over.

So for four and a half years I have been basically studying with Ray, as well as gaining useful insight from Forum posts and answers. You know, being called of God is a pretty lonely gig. I have prayed and wondered if God would move my wife of 42 years to this understanding. She too is an escapee from the WWCG. But so far it doesn’t seem to be the case. I wonder if it is rare for God to call husband and wife in this age? Seems so to me.

In reading back about the early church in the New Testament we see that there were many called in contiguous areas, and they could depend on each other. It was also a very physically dangerous time to be called, which doesn’t seem to be the case in this church age (at least not so far). So we pretty much study and progress alone.

I remember Ray discussing Hebrews 10:25, and how “fellowshipping more as the end days approach” (me paraphrasing here), was really talking about our Fellowshipping with Christ and not necessarily with each other, seeing how we can’t really get together. I was able to find it on the forum:
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In Hebrews 10:25 were are admonished as follows:
 
"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as you see the day approaching."
 
That this is speaking of believers congregating together to worship and study God’s Word, there can be no doubt. However, there is a much deeper meaning to this "assembling" that few have ever seen. I never saw it myself until I read a paper by J. Preston Eby, entitled: "FORSAKE NOT THE ASSEMBLING."
 
I will quote an excerpt or two from his paper:
 
"The Greek word for ‘assembling’ is EPISUNAGOGE. The word, literally, is a verb meaning to synagogue. It is a compound of the Greek prefix EPI with the word SUNAGOGE from which we get our transliterated English word Synagogue. EPI means super – imposition – that which is above, higher than, highest, upon. SUNAGOGE means a meeting, assembly, or gathering. Putting these two words together, EPI-SUNAGOGE means THE ABOVE SYNAGOGUE, THE HIGHER MEETING, THE HIGHEST ASSEMBLY, THE HIGHER-THAN-ALL-GATHERINGS!
 
It bespeaks of something far greater than merely collecting so many breathing bodies together in one place.
It is a meeting in a higher realm, on a higher plane, in the high places of the Spirit, and in the heights of Truth. It is a gathering together in a dimension above. It indicates an assembling IN THE SPIRIT…"
 
(All Caps belong to Mr. Eby).
 
This Greek word episunagoge is used only one other time in Scripture, and that is in II Thes. 2:1:
 
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together [Gk: episunagoge] unto Him."
 
In Hebrews 10 we are admonished to "assemble" in an high meeting, a meeting in the SPIRIT! In II Thes. 2 this meeting in the Spirit will become a literal meeting with our Lord.
 
And so, back to our question once more: Which denomination should we join? Where should we go to Church? Where should we "forsake not the assembling of ourselves together?" In a physical building of some physical denomination? No. WE are to episunagoge (assemble) on a higher plane, in a higher realm, in a spiritual assembly, IN THE SPIRIT!
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I look at where I think I have come in understanding (eye to see and ear to here) and believe that God has shown me much through Ray and BT. Maybe I should be farther along in four and half years…sometimes I feel that way.

I think about the topics and understanding that God revealed through Ray. I am really fascinated about Ray’s teachings about time, and “eternity”, and the creation fitting just fine within scientists’ beliefs of a very old earth and universe. Some topics I am interested in and Ray mentioned that he would talk about them more later…and then evidently never did. But I feel like those are not the key things I need to focus on.

I think about the really fairly short ministry of Ray, and what God wanted him to convey. The many called and few chosen, the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His messages in Revelations how it is all one. His message about what is God’s will….be, act, and think just like Christ. Oh how I have struggled with that! Christ is preparing His “government” and rulers, and when they are ready the whole of creation will be blessed by His coming.

Not really sure why I wanted to post this. I have been thinking a lot about Ray lately. I didn’t even know him, but feel like in fact I do. So thought I would just talk about Ray’s legacy. You know there are a couple of sites that you tube prompts me on that all they seem to do is post Ray’s videos…uncut and unchanged. Amazing.

Well, I think great tribulation is great trouble.  Something not pleasant. But, if you’re right then you’ve been given something that is very special to hold onto and to share. It’s a whole new way of looking at it that’s for sure. 

This is interesting and maybe another piece of the “puzzle”?

Joe 2:2  a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and dense overcast, like the dawn spreading over the mountains; a great and strong people appears, such as never existed in ages past and never will again in all the generations to come.

Is it me, or is Jesus quoting Joel 2:2?

Mat 24:21  For at that time there will be great tribulation, the kind that hasn't taken place from the beginning of the world until now and never will again!

I can't help but to think that Jesus is referring to His army of chosen saints as “great tribulation”. If you read that entire chapter in Joel 2, it indicates an Army that is quick, efficient and disciplined. I was immediately reminded of the song “when the saints go marching in”. I wonder if Joel 2 was the inspiration for the lyrics of that song.

I couldn't help notice the similarities between the following verses.

Mat 24:22  Unless those days (those days of great tribulation) were limited, no one would survive. But those days will be limited because of the elect.

Rom 9:27  And concerning Israel, Isaiah the prophet cried out, "Though the people of Israel are as numerous as the sand of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved.

Rom 9:28  For the LORD will carry out His sentence upon the earth quickly and with finality."

Rom 9:29  And Isaiah said the same thing in another place: "If the LORD of Heaven's Armies had not spared a few of our children, we would have been wiped out like Sodom, destroyed like Gomorrah."

Any thoughts?

Tks Dave

Just what I was looking for

God bless
Wendy

If you are interested , watch these you tube videos .

Democracy Now
Title
March for Israel speaker Hagee once said , “ God sent Hitler to help Jews
reach the promised land.”

And

America’s Christian Zionists, Israel’s Strategic Weapon?

All I can say is WOW!

In Christ, Pamela

Try this transcript.

https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,5815.msg48440.html#msg48440

Hi everyone,



I pray you are all well. Could anyone tell me which video of Ray's talks about
that God is Spirit not a spirt.


God bless
Wendy