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Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Brett on April 30, 2006, 05:56:22 PM
Hello,

I was student pastor of theological but I left Babylon. I have so many books on my shelf that belong to Christendom (carnal mind). I wanted to get rid of books but my wife told me that I should sell books because I spend close to 1,000 or at least. I am affraid to sell books because in 2 Cor. 2:17 Paul said,

"For we are not as the MAJORITY, who are http://PEDDLING the word of God…" (Concordant Literal New Testament).

My books is not real truth, it belongs to Christendom/Babylon. I don't sell the real truth like Ray and Mike have.

Is that okay I sell (untruth, Christendom) that are not relate to 2 Cor. 2:17? Let me know if you have experience or knowledge.

Thank you
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: SteveB on April 30, 2006, 06:24:24 PM
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My books is not real truth, it belongs to Christendom/Babylon. I don't sell the real truth like Ray and Mike have.

Is that okay I sell (untruth, Christendom) that are not relate to 2 Cor. 2:17? Let me know if you have experience or knowledge.


No man, dont do it. Selling this crap will perpetuate the LIES! Burn them is was i did with most of my orthodox books.

Not all orthodox books are all bad. I've learned FACTS from orthodoxy, so keep the books like that and the rest, BURN! :twisted:
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: lilitalienboi16 on April 30, 2006, 06:52:08 PM
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My books is not real truth, it belongs to Christendom/Babylon. I don't sell the real truth like Ray and Mike have.

Is that okay I sell (untruth, Christendom) that are not relate to 2 Cor. 2:17? Let me know if you have experience or knowledge.


No man, dont do it. Selling this crap will perpetuate the LIES! Burn them is was i did with most of my orthodox books.

Not all orthodox books are all bad. I've learned FACTS from orthodoxy, so keep the books like that and the rest, BURN! :twisted:


I was thinking the same thing,

Don't spread the lies and hatred, just get rid of them. God will take care of you and your family completely, wether it be income problems or not. You will be fine :)
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: shibboleth on April 30, 2006, 06:57:01 PM
I have been in a number of denominations and have spent much money on books, tapes, videos, tracts and other things to learn more about the new church I was in. After I left each church, I gave much of my material away. The things I kept were mainly for reference in case I had a question about what Christiandom teaches, I could find it in my books. I don't think I could sell any of this stuff. But I would give it away, if I thought someone would use it  only for reference purposes. Anymore, I just don't feel right about selling Gods stuff.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Sorin on April 30, 2006, 07:18:31 PM
I know that hell does not exist, but I do think it would be great to burn all those books and be like " burn in your christian hell". :lol:
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Brett on April 30, 2006, 10:22:44 PM
Thanks everyone. I appreciate your feedback. All I need to know what you have learned. I planned to threw them away but my wife wanted me to sell it. Maybe I should sneak and threw books away and hope my wife will not find out  :roll:, but she may find out  :oops:.

Most of my books like commentaries, theologians, general christains books that are no truth in it. And I plan give some books back to my old church (Babylon) that they gave me. I keep few books.

Ray and Mike are the only straightforward truth.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Mickyd on May 01, 2006, 07:49:17 AM
I don't think that there is anything wrong with hanging on to these books...Even though they may be wrong on a great many things, there is still much to be learned from them. I have many books that I keep around just for referance.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: eutychus on May 01, 2006, 10:09:56 AM
Ac 19:19
Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: ertsky on May 01, 2006, 10:26:53 AM
:lol: Sorin

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it would be great to burn all those books and be like " burn in your christian hell".


i would be there, casting finney's biography into the flames yelling "take that  finney"

condemn me now if you can, carnal fear inspired unspiritual writings LOL!

f

classic  :lol:

i'd like to chase the real charles finney around the room armed with a teaspoon and wrap him on the forehead with it everytime he accused someone of being backslidden because they missed a prayer meeting LOL! (just kidding, just kidding)
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Laren on May 01, 2006, 10:27:33 AM
Quote from: Brett
Ray and Mike are the only straightforward truth.



Statements like this scare me.  Only one truth.  Keep searching.  Never trust man.  

Pro 3:5  Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:

Pro 3:6  In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: SteveB on May 01, 2006, 12:28:44 PM
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Statements like this scare me. Only one truth. Keep searching. Never trust man.

Pro 3:5 Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:

Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.



"never trust man" may be true but God uses the foolishness of preaching thru MEN to save His people.

Laren, you know of any lie that Ray and Mike are teaching? Inquiring Minds...

1Jo 4:6  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby,  know we the spirit of truth,and the spirit of error.

1Co 4:16 I beseech you, therefore,-become imitators of me.

Peace...STeve
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Laren on May 01, 2006, 02:49:43 PM
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Statements like this scare me. Only one truth. Keep searching. Never trust man.

Pro 3:5 Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:

Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.



"never trust man" may be true but God uses the foolishness of preaching thru MEN to save His people.

Laren, you know of any lie that Ray and Mike are teaching? Inquiring Minds...

1Jo 4:6  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby,  know we the spirit of truth,and the spirit of error.

1Co 4:16 I beseech you, therefore,-become imitators of me.

Peace...STeve


Steve, I'm not saying they are teaching any lies, at least not purposely.  
They teach what has been revealed to them.  But the revelation of Christ in each of us is a process, a process of going through the seals described in the book of Revelation.  As far as I know, noone has gone through to  completion of these, and Christ is not fully revealed to any of us.  What we see is in part, not in completion yet.  Fix your eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith.  Full truth, is only in Jesus, not in man's teachings.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Brett on May 02, 2006, 12:40:21 AM
Quote from: Laren
Quote from: Brett
Ray and Mike are the only straightforward truth.



Statements like this scare me.  Only one truth.  Keep searching.  Never trust man.  

Pro 3:5  Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:

Pro 3:6  In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.



Laren,

I understand your point. Even I was fully trust in God's words but could not percieve His words in SPIRIT. For long years, I had percieve God's words was in FLESH, not in spiritual things. It was God's own best time. Until, I found them without my intending and they SHOWED very plain and simple truth of God, now I could see the very real truth. They show more verses to verses plus matching spiritual things with spiritual WITHOUT their own intertrepting like the Christendom does (1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:20). Of course, I trust God daily but He also used Noah, Moses, prophets, John the Baptist, Jesus [God], apostles and now today we are to test in spirit whether if man is from God or not (1 John 4:6). I didn't know what Rich and Lazarus parables means (even I was stupid student pastor) but Ray showed the deep of parables and Greek words of define of Rich man and Lazarus, now I finally thank God to showed me the real means. If I don't find Ray's site, then for sure I would preach with threat that Rich man has gone to Hell eternal! I do want to be damnable and heresies.

Jesus is our savior but not only for us but also for the WHOLE WORLD! 1 John 2:2.  O:)

Hope this makes sense.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Laren on May 02, 2006, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Brett
Quote from: Laren
Quote from: Brett
Ray and Mike are the only straightforward truth.



Statements like this scare me.  Only one truth.  Keep searching.  Never trust man.  

Pro 3:5  Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:

Pro 3:6  In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.



Laren,

I understand your point. Even I was fully trust in God's words but could not percieve His words in SPIRIT. For long years, I had percieve God's words was in FLESH, not in spiritual things. It was God's own best time. Until, I found them without my intending and they SHOWED very plain and simple truth of God, now I could see the very real truth. They show more verses to verses plus matching spiritual things with spiritual WITHOUT their own intertrepting like the Christendom does (1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:20). Of course, I trust God daily but He also used Noah, Moses, prophets, John the Baptist, Jesus [God], apostles and now today we are to test in spirit whether if man is from God or not (1 John 4:6). I didn't know what Rich and Lazarus parables means (even I was stupid student pastor) but Ray showed the deep of parables and Greek words of define of Rich man and Lazarus, now I finally thank God to showed me the real means. If I don't find Ray's site, then for sure I would preach with threat that Rich man has gone to Hell eternal! I do want to be damnable and heresies.

Jesus is our savior but not only for us but also for the WHOLE WORLD! 1 John 2:2.  O:)

Hope this makes sense.



Yes, makes sense, and i agree.   :D  :D
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Brett on May 02, 2006, 06:46:48 PM
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In my opinion I do not think any book should be burned! I would have to say that these books you have could be used to help you to refute the lies they contain! I would go through them and I would refute the lies with the truth and these could really be a good learning for you! I would combat the writtings in these books with the truth of God's word and make notes beside each lie that you see or read! Put the scripture verse beside each lie you come across with the truth of God's word and you never know when you may have to confront someone on the teachings these books have!! They would be a good way for you to study and really dig deep into the truths of God!! I do believe you could really get some good "meat" from God's word to refute this christiandom literature!
 Just my opinion!!
 It would kinda be like really seeing what God has brought you out of!!


bobby



Thanks bobby. I appreciate you shared with your opinion. I keep some of books for in case to refute Christondom.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Lightseeker on May 02, 2006, 07:14:07 PM
I know I'm jumping in a little late but would like to just share a couple of things.  

I once was studying a 'famous' book on the cults, so I could go out and argue against them.  The Spirit tapped me on the shoulder and said, "Major in the light, and don't worry about the darkness."  I've never forgot that word.

It's been said that Augustine was on his death bed with friends gathered around him.  He slipped away...and then suddennly his eyes popped open, he set up in bed and said, "All that I have written is but straw."

I don't know if this story is true or not.  But it is certainly thought provoking.

ECC 12:12  And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: SteveB on May 03, 2006, 04:50:11 PM
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Steve, I'm not saying they are teaching any lies, at least not purposely.
They teach what has been revealed to them. But the revelation of Christ in each of us is a process, a process of going through the seals described in the book of Revelation. As far as I know, noone has gone through to completion of these, and Christ is not fully revealed to any of us. What we see is in part, not in completion yet. Fix your eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith. Full truth, is only in Jesus, not in man's teachings.


Laren that first statement is no/yes equation. Either yes or no is the answer.

I'm aware of the process of the Revelation of Jesus Christ but HE USES THE FOOLISHNESS OF MEN TO REACH HIS GOALS.

So how can you say 'not in mans teaching' by that your saying dont trust RAy and Mike because there men?

That a contradiction, man.
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Laren on May 03, 2006, 05:40:20 PM
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Steve, I'm not saying they are teaching any lies, at least not purposely.
They teach what has been revealed to them. But the revelation of Christ in each of us is a process, a process of going through the seals described in the book of Revelation. As far as I know, noone has gone through to completion of these, and Christ is not fully revealed to any of us. What we see is in part, not in completion yet. Fix your eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith. Full truth, is only in Jesus, not in man's teachings.


Laren that first statement is no/yes equation. Either yes or no is the answer.

I'm aware of the process of the Revelation of Jesus Christ but HE USES THE FOOLISHNESS OF MEN TO REACH HIS GOALS.

So how can you say 'not in mans teaching' by that your saying dont trust RAy and Mike because there men?

That a contradiction, man.


PM me if u want more explanation, this board is not the place
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: EZE on May 05, 2006, 08:33:56 AM
Ok word up Homies... Getting back to the topic at hand 'Should we sell Christendom's books?'
Y'know what? Why not - sell that rubbish off and make some coin.
You may even decide to donate the profits to Ray and Mike's web hosting.


These books are going to be purchased anyway and it's not as though you're selling truth is it? Nay - tis not.

What's this bizarre nonsensical idea about burning them?
Really, what possible long term benefit is that going to have?
Yeah that'll really help won't it, you've burned your copies now the world is a safer place... Hello?
There is an invention call the printing press people - these books are still being printed by their thousands.
Kind of like this Christian I know who borrows books from the library and blacks out any offensive language she finds in them with a biro thinking she's somehow doing the world a favour...

If you're really serious about showing people truth then write a scriptural refutation to 1 or more of these books.
I have - check out the following link -

http://squarecircles.blogspot.com/2006/04/keys-to-financial-excellence.html

EZE
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: SteveB on May 05, 2006, 09:52:29 AM
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Ok word up Homies... Getting back to the topic at hand 'Should we sell Christendom's books?'
Y'know what? Why not - sell that rubbish off and make some coin.
You may even decide to donate the profits to Ray and Mike's web hosting.


Yo HOmie(lol!) YOu dont sell lies Homie you BURN THEM! :twisted:
And I'm sure Ray and Mike DONT WANT THAT MONEY!


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These books are going to be purchased anyway and it's not as though you're selling truth is it? Nay - tis not.

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What's this bizarre nonsensical idea about burning them?
Really, what possible long term benefit is that going to have?
Yeah that'll really help won't it, you've burned your copies now the world is a safer place... Hello?


Hello...this is from the Bible homie...

Ac 19:19
Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver

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There is an invention call the printing press people - these books are still being printed by their thousands.
Kind of like this Christian I know who borrows books from the library and blacks out any offensive language she finds in them with a biro thinking she's somehow doing the world a favour...


This makes a lot cents. Well Hustler magazine is still being printed so if we have on of those we shouldnt get rid of it right? Which is worse spiritual adultry or physical adultry?

My Homie Jesus dont play dat!Word :D
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: EZE on May 05, 2006, 10:42:58 AM
Ah Steve.
It appears I stand corrected - well said mate.
I still don't see the point in burning it though, terrible waste to me.

I recently chose to sell my 'Christian' nonsense on ebay.
Yes I can see the shocked expressions on your faces now, my oh my what was I thinking...

Steve is right though, scripturally speaking I should have burned them.
Oh well, at least now I know!

EZE
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: EZE on May 06, 2006, 02:20:27 AM
Actually Steve after some thought I'm not so sure you're right about this...

I mean, where do we draw the line with this?

Ok, what about if you live in a small country town and the only supermarket in town is owned by a false minister and all profits go directly to his babylonian church?
Am I to forego purchasing goods from there because he will profit from it? I mean really, by me purchasing from there I am in effect perpetuating his deception am I not? Should I burn his supermarket to the ground? That seems to be your logic Steve...

Ok, how about this one...
I live in an isolated part of the world and there is only 1 butcher in town and he's a practicing satanist. Before he kills the animals he performs a satanic ritual of some sort and offers the blood of the beast to Satan. What now Steve?
Should his butchery be reduced to ashes and he run out of town?

Actually Steve Paul addressed this exact issue in 1 Corinthians 10.
The scripture he used to justify eating such meat was 'The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof'.

Couldn't I say the same thing about selling Christendom's books Steve?
The earth is the Lord's mate, what's it really matter if I sell it or not?

Yes, the books were burned in the days of the apostles but when was the printing press invented Steve? 1600ish I believe.
By burning those books, they may well have 'quelled the tide' of deception for a good season.

Let me know your thoughts Steve and try not to be so derogatory in your response, I'm not a complete idiot.

EZE
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: EZE on May 06, 2006, 02:25:35 AM
Steve you said this - "...And I'm sure Ray and Mike DONT WANT THAT MONEY!"

Are you on first name basis with both Ray and Mike Steve?
Have you infact posed this exact question to them?
I'd like to know if you have...

Also Steve, you quoted Ac 19:19.
But Steve c'mon mate, 'no scripture is of it's own interpretation' - 2 Peter 1.20
Do you have a 2nd and 3rd witness for your 'burn the books' theology?


EZE
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: SteveB on May 06, 2006, 12:33:02 PM
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Actually Steve after some thought I'm not so sure you're right about this...

I mean, where do we draw the line with this?

Ok, what about if you live in a small country town and the only supermarket in town is owned by a false minister and all profits go directly to his babylonian church?
Am I to forego purchasing goods from there because he will profit from it? I mean really, by me purchasing from there I am in effect perpetuating his deception am I not? Should I burn his supermarket to the ground? That seems to be your logic Steve...



Dude, your WAY, WAY FAR OFF. We were talking about SELLING 'ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN' BOOKS FOR MONEY. Not burning peoples supermakets to the ground! And if you cant see the differece between buying a FAKE CHRISTIAN BOOK  and  buying a HAM SANDWICH then, i dont know what to say.

 

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Ok, how about this one...
I live in an isolated part of the world and there is only 1 butcher in town and he's a practicing satanist. Before he kills the animals he performs a satanic ritual of some sort and offers the blood of the beast to Satan. What now Steve?
Should his butchery be reduced to ashes and he run out of town?


Thats creepy mate! YIKES! But were not talking about butchers were taking about selling 'christian' books.

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Actually Steve Paul addressed this exact issue in 1 Corinthians 10.
The scripture he used to justify eating such meat was 'The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof'.

Couldn't I say the same thing about selling Christendom's books Steve?
The earth is the Lord's mate, what's it really matter if I sell it or not?


Selling books that DAMN THE SOUL and eating a t-bone steak is about as far apart a Satan and Christ.

Pro 23:23 Truth, buy thou, but do not sell, wisdom, and correction, and understanding.


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Yes, the books were burned in the days of the apostles but when was the printing press invented Steve? 1600ish I believe.
By burning those books, they may well have 'quelled the tide' of deception for a good season.


ITS ABOUT WHAT YOU DO NOT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO!

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Let me know your thoughts Steve and try not to be so derogatory in your response, I'm not a complete idiot.  
 


Sorry is you took it that way but haveing the screen name 'EZE'(dont know if you know but 'eze' here in the states was a rapper who was drug abuser, homosexual who died of aids)  and the first word out of your mouth was 'homie' I didnt know what to think. So i thought a little 'humor' was in order. Sorry if you took offence.


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Steve you said this - "...And I'm sure Ray and Mike DONT WANT THAT MONEY!"

Are you on first name basis with both Ray and Mike Steve?
Have you infact posed this exact question to them?
I'd like to know if you have...


Well with Mike maybe, Ray I haven't emailed to much because he so busy. But they are both humble men and I'M SURE they wouldnt mind. And NO i havent posed this question to them. BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK THAT THEY WILL TELL YOU THE SAME.

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Also Steve, you quoted Ac 19:19.
But Steve c'mon mate, 'no scripture is of it's own interpretation' - 2 Peter 1.20
Do you have a 2nd and 3rd witness for your 'burn the books' theology?


If you read my original post you'd see I STILL HAVE REFERENCE BOOKS OF ORTHODOX 'CHRISTIANITY'. I WAS MAKING A JOKE OUT OF THE BURNING THE BOOKS!(even though i did burn my JOhn Hagee books) I wasNT saying you MUST BURN ALL YOUR BOOKS! EVEN THOUGH THATS WHAT GOD IS GOING TO DO TO ALL THE LIES WROTE IN THOSE BOOKS!

So here is a few verses that show about 'IDOLS OF THE HEART' (I.E. MONEY)

1. Act. 19:19

2. 1Jo 5:21  Little children,5040 keep5442 yourselves1438 from575 idols.1497 Amen.281

3.1Th 1:9  For1063 they846 themselves show518 of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God2316 from idols1497 to serve1398 the living and true God;

4.2Co 6:16  And what agreement hath the temple of God2316 with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God;2316 as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in1704 them; and I will be their God, and they shall be2071 my3427 people.

5.1Co 12:2  Ye know1492 that3754 ye were2258 Gentiles,1484 carried away520 unto4314 these dumb880 idols,1497 even as5613 ye were led.71, 302

6.Rev 2:14  But235 I have2192 a few things3641 against2596 thee,4675 because thou hast there1563 them that hold2902 the3588 doctrine1322 of Balaam, who taught1321 Balac904 to cast906 a stumblingblock4625 before the children of Israel,2474 to eat5315 things sacrificed unto idols,1494 and2532 to commit fornication.4203

7.Rom 2:22  Thou that sayest a man should not3361 commit adultery,3431 dost thou commit adultery?3431 thou that abhorrest948 idols,1497 dost thou commit sacrilege?


Peace...Steve
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: EZE on May 06, 2006, 08:45:55 PM
Steve thanks for your reply.
None of the scriptures you quoted though back up your position that we should burn these books though... Yes, we should 'keep ourselves from idols' but where is the implication we literally burn the heresy?
Btw, there's no need to HAVE EVERYTHING YOU QUOTE IN BIG WRITING... I am not blind.

You also totally missed the points I was making re the supermarket and the butcher and you blew it off as though it's not even related.
Are you so narrow minded Steve? Yeah, I'm really on about ham sanga's Steve... It was the principle behind where the funds go - It's absolutely related - same re the butcher.
 
Your concern is with the 'things of Christendom' is it not?
You're saying we should burn the books yes?
What about the Cd's, DVD's, Tapes, poster's etc? They have to go too?

What next Steve? Where do we stop?
My point with the 2 illustrations is where do we draw the line?

You don't seem to have an answer for that Steve. It would appear that you're just trying to emulate Ray by taking quotes of mine and throwing scripture at it... Hardly condusive to a good banter is it?
It comes across as totally over the top in most instances and especially when what you're quoting has no real relevance your point.

Let me know Steve

EZE

Btw, I am not an American (thank God) and have no idea about the whole rap scene over there... Sorry to have caused offense with my user name
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: SteveB on May 06, 2006, 11:10:51 PM
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Steve thanks for your reply.
None of the scriptures you quoted though back up your position that we should burn these books though... Yes, we should 'keep ourselves from idols' but where is the implication we literally burn the heresy?
Btw, there's no need to HAVE EVERYTHING YOU QUOTE IN BIG WRITING... I am not blind.


Dude, you DO HAVE need of me to write in BIG WRITING because you missed completely what i said. So i'll try again...


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If you read my original post you'd see I STILL HAVE REFERENCE BOOKS OF ORTHODOX 'CHRISTIANITY'. I WAS MAKING A JOKE OUT OF THE BURNING THE BOOKS!(even though i did burn my JOhn Hagee books) I wasNT saying you MUST BURN ALL YOUR BOOKS! EVEN THOUGH THATS WHAT GOD IS GOING TO DO TO ALL THE LIES WROTE IN THOSE BOOKS!


It was a JOKE!!! BUT, it is no sin to burn them! There your books, you could make paper airplanes out of them for all i care. Just dont sell them.

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You also totally missed the points I was making re the supermarket and the butcher and you blew it off as though it's not even related.
Are you so narrow minded Steve? Yeah, I'm really on about ham sanga's Steve... It was the principle behind where the funds go - It's absolutely related - same re the butcher.


This had nothing to do WITH BUYING THE MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It had to do WITH SELLING THE MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It has to do with purpetuating the LIES and trying to make some money back on the sale. And then jusitify it by saying 'well i could give it to Ray or Mike'.

This is the question my friend and YOU MISSED THE POINT.

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Your concern is with the 'things of Christendom' is it not?
You're saying we should burn the books yes?
What about the Cd's, DVD's, Tapes, poster's etc? They have to go too?

What next Steve? Where do we stop?
My point with the 2 illustrations is where do we draw the line?


Man, you didnt even read my post so i'll try again...

I STILL HAVE 'CHRISTIAN' BOOKS AND AM NOT SAYING DONT BUY THEM. I'M SAYING DONT SELL THEM!!!!!

Pro 23:23 Truth, buy thou, but do not sell, wisdom, and correction, and understanding.


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You don't seem to have an answer for that Steve. It would appear that you're just trying to emulate Ray by taking quotes of mine and throwing scripture at it... Hardly condusive to a good banter is it?
It comes across as totally over the top in most instances and especially when what you're quoting has no real relevance your point.

Let me know Steve


Yes I am trying to emulate Ray as he emulates Christ. And ALL my quotes WERE VERY RELEVANT. It was about the idol of mammon. Selling the Word(which is forbidden) for money and then trying to justify it. So read them again, please.

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EZE

Btw, I am not an American (thank God) and have no idea about the whole rap scene over there... Sorry to have caused offense with my user name


I kinda figured that out thats why i called you 'mate', mate.

Peace...Steve
Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: hillsbororiver on May 07, 2006, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: EZE
Steve thanks for your reply.
None of the scriptures you quoted though back up your position that we should burn these books though... Yes, we should 'keep ourselves from idols' but where is the implication we literally burn the heresy?
Btw, there's no need to HAVE EVERYTHING YOU QUOTE IN BIG WRITING... I am not blind.

You also totally missed the points I was making re the supermarket and the butcher and you blew it off as though it's not even related.
Are you so narrow minded Steve? Yeah, I'm really on about ham sanga's Steve... It was the principle behind where the funds go - It's absolutely related - same re the butcher.
 
Your concern is with the 'things of Christendom' is it not?
You're saying we should burn the books yes?
What about the Cd's, DVD's, Tapes, poster's etc? They have to go too?

What next Steve? Where do we stop?
My point with the 2 illustrations is where do we draw the line?

You don't seem to have an answer for that Steve. It would appear that you're just trying to emulate Ray by taking quotes of mine and throwing scripture at it... Hardly condusive to a good banter is it?
It comes across as totally over the top in most instances and especially when what you're quoting has no real relevance your point.

Let me know Steve

EZE

Btw, I am not an American (thank God) and have no idea about the whole rap scene over there... Sorry to have caused offense with my user name


Let's keep it civil, it is possible to make a point without being offensive.

Thanks,

Joe

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Title: Sell Christendom's books???
Post by: Harryfeat on May 07, 2006, 03:59:25 PM
Hello Brett,

I just can't force myself to throw away or burn a book.  [I must have been a librarian in a prior life :lol: ]

Please do not do anything behind your wife's back.  She is probably on to you anyway.  

The only solution that I could come up with was to donate your books [if you think they are of value] to a worthy bible school student. The only requirement would be that the student challenge the doctrines and theologies expressed therein.  You can devise the way that is done either by comparison to the BT discussions or just in general how they compare or comply with the doctrine of Christ.  


If you sell them on Ebay you could put a surgeon general warning sticker on each one that says.... Beware: reading the contents of this book will give you less truth, peace and warmth than smoking/burning it.



feat