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Title: Spiritual Edification
Post by: mharrell08 on November 07, 2008, 12:57:47 PM
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I believe there is a reason why this section highlighted is important. We are all here for fellowship and spiritual edification. That's why it is important to read and STUDY Ray's teachings before posting. What happens when a member does not read and study before posting? The subject content always leads to speculative discussions which have zero spiritual edification. Do these speculating members care how anyone else is edified? Of course not, they are too busy trying to interpret a verse themselves instead of relying on scripture for a 2nd and 3rd witness as well as a spiritual match.

1. Is any scripture of it's own interpretation? No, so why do we attempt to interpet any one scripture ourselves?

2. If one is confused or not understanding any of Ray's teaching, which part is confusing? What statement of Ray's do you believe the scriptures say otherwise?

3. When a member is attempting to answer and help you understand a topic or question that YOU POSTED, why ignore their assistance and jump all over the place to another issue?

4. Why do we assume more from a member's comments than what's posted? What I mean by that is, why do we respond to another member on a completely different issue than what the original member posted? When you quote another member to respond to their statement, you will be surprised when you take the time to look at that person's statement to see they may not have meant what you thought.

5. Are not the scriptures 1 message? 1 parable? Why are we so quick to believe a notion that a scripture, doctrine, or message state otherwise? Remember the 1 parable: Creating is God humanity in His image.

6. If a counsel of members give you the same answers with scriptures, maybe it is YOU that don't completely understand what you yourself are trying to say.

7. Reading and studying...are we reading through the LOF series again? The 12 spiritual truths to understanding His word? Why stop...does anyone think they have it all figured out? Let's keep going!

Let us be beneficial to everyone...not our own little personal beliefs. But we must familiarize ourselves with scriptures and Ray's teachings to do this. Otherwise, not only are we not building up our brothers and sisters here on the forum, but we stunt our own personal spiritual growth.



Thanks,

Marques

Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Vangie on November 07, 2008, 02:09:58 PM
Thanks Marques, you make some very good points.  I for one am easily sidetracked and do appreciate what you mean about staying focused. 

Love in Christ,
Vangie
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: hammerandnails on November 07, 2008, 03:54:51 PM
Dear Marques, I urge you to read my last post in the spirit and soul thread!!!

Altough you make very good points, you yourself is missing the point entirely!!
Is not necessarily what someone said, is your approach to what they say that makes you separate, different, ELECT!!!

I pray to God that this is not the way the moderators approach this subject,
because this will be a very painful blow to my walk with God.

I am deeply troubled at your lack of love!!


I pray now with tears, that this is not the everybody's approach!!!!!

There are other ways to make someone see your point!!!!
I pray that you will humble yourself before you are humbled by the Lord!!!


Brother, if you have not love you are NOTHING!!!!!!

What I thought that separate this forum from the others is LOVE!!!!


And if we are a family, like any family we disagree!!!
But as long as is done in love that is no harm done.
This is the image of the elect????

Than I ashamed I am one!!

Marques, I am stumbling on your monuments!!!!!
You make me stumble!!!!!

You are not portraying Christ, you are portraying NEBUCHADNEZZAR!!!! :o :o :o

I wonder what Ray would think of your approach?

You might be right, but this is not the way to address it.

I am ashamed that I am not so learned as you are, and if I should be afraid to ask a question with the expectation that I will
be scourged, may be I don't belong here!!!!

You got offended at what Scarlet has wrote??
Than prove your point in the spirit of love, or throw him out, BUT COME DOWN FROM YOUR THRONE!!!!
I am afraid for you, and if you don't have love, ALL YOUR LEARNING ID IN VAIN. :'( :'( :'(

Grace and peace
Ariel




Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: mharrell08 on November 07, 2008, 04:34:11 PM
Dear Marques, I urge you to read my last post in the spirit and soul thread!!!

Altough you make very good points, you yourself is missing the point entirely!!
Is not necessarily what someone said, is your approach to what they say that makes you separate, different, ELECT!!!

I pray to God that this is not the way the moderators approach this subject,
because this will be a very painful blow to my walk with God.

I am deeply troubled at your lack of love!!


I pray now with tears, that this is not the everybody's approach!!!!!

There are other ways to make someone see your point!!!!
I pray that you will humble yourself before you are humbled by the Lord!!!


Brother, if you have not love you are NOTHING!!!!!!

What I thought that separate this forum from the others is LOVE!!!!


And if we are a family, like any family we disagree!!!
But as long as is done in love that is no harm done.
This is the image of the elect????

Than I ashamed I am one!!

Marques, I am stumbling on your monuments!!!!!
You make me stumble!!!!!

You are not portraying Christ, you are portraying NEBUCHADNEZZAR!!!! :o :o :o

I wonder what Ray would think of your approach?

You might be right, but this is not the way to address it.

I am ashamed that I am not so learned as you are, and if I should be afraid to ask a question with the expectation that I will
be scourged, may be I don't belong here!!!!

You got offended at what Scarlet has wrote??
Than prove your point in the spirit of love, or throw him out, BUT COME DOWN FROM YOUR THRONE!!!!
I am afraid for you, and if you don't have love, ALL YOUR LEARNING ID IN VAIN. :'( :'( :'(

Grace and peace
Ariel


I answered your lengthy post from the 'Spirit and Soul' thread. I'm not doing it again here.

Excerpt from Ray's paper on Fools, Hypocrites, Snakes:

"FOR HE TAUGHT THEM AS ONE HAVING AUTHORITY"

I fully realize my papers grind on the spirits of those who oppose God’s Word. And well they should. Why shouldn’t we quote the Scriptures with authority--the Scriptures are authority.

        "For He [Jesus] taught them as one having AUTHORITY and not as the scribes" (Matt. 7:29).

Jesus got His authority from His Father, and He used it. In fact, the very words He spoke were the words of His Father and not His own (John 17:8), hence the Father too uses sarcasm and anger in teaching us (our Lord and His God have more personality than most have ever imagined). What a broad range of colorful metaphors, parables, and colloquialisms they used. Add to these sarcasm, exaggeration, satire, irony, and true anger, and we have very powerful, persuasive language and teaching.

JESUS TALKED NATURALLY

First, let’s be clear that Jesus did not go around speaking as if He were a performer on a Shakespearean stage. Jesus did NOT speak in archaic King James English! Jesus never said:

    "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, when thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands and another shall gird thee and carry thee whither thou wouldest not" (John 21:18, King James Version).

No, that is NOT what Jesus said in modern English. That is what He would have said had He been speaking archaic King James English to the residents of England back 1611. But to our ears this archaic English now sounds strange and affected. We no longer speak in archaic King James English. If Jesus were to speak to us today in the English of the 21st century it would sound more like this:

    "The truth is when you were young, you were able to do as you liked and go wherever you wanted to; but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and others will direct you and take you where you don’t want to go" (John 21:18, The Living Bible).

Jesus spoke the language of the people, the language of the day. He was natural, He was colloquial, He was precise, He was articulate, He was emotional, He was sincere. Jesus spoke EXACTLY AND PRECISELY as He was inside, because it is a Scriptural truth that, "…out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" (Matt. 12:34).


Marques

P.S. What made you believe this thread was directed to either you or ScarletWren? Was this a PM or an open thread for EVERYONE including me?
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Rene on November 07, 2008, 06:00:32 PM
ANOTHER IMPORTANT FORUM RULE:

If you have a problem with a moderator, the way the forum is managed, or another user of the forum then address this through private mails.  Publicly airing your grievances could be grounds for banishment, and will get your post deleted.

Learn to use the private mail function.  If you don't know how then ask.


All who are guilty of breaking this rule, please adhere.

Peace,
René
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 07, 2008, 06:54:50 PM
Why so much sorrow or anger over a thread? I find no malice in what brother Marques said and reminders are good for us as a whole every now and then.

Ariel, I’m sure if you were face to face with Marques and heard the tone of his voice and seen his countenance as he spoke these words you would of not become offended or angry or even hurt by what he said.

I’ve found Marques to be a very helpful brother in the Lord and I don’t believe Marques to have posted this thread with malice of heart.

The only problem I see with this forum is that one can read more into a thread than what is there, Lords knows I’m guilty of this myself.


P.S. Blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called the sons of God.


                                   In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: dewey on November 07, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
I would love to add my 2 cents to this post, but there's a good chance that I would say all the wrong things.  But there are a number of people on this forum that the Lord has shown us (Dewey & Paula) wisdom in their posts.  But there are two that we feel have an excellent understanding of what it's all about.  Lord willing, they will post on this specific subject.  and I'm gonna tell you who they are right now - I would love and believe that Roger and Indiana Bob have the capacity of wisdom to set this whole thing straight and to cut off at the path the stampede that is sure to happen the way this conversation is going.  From past posts, the Lord leads me to believe that either one of these 2 gentlemen would be able to explain/moderate this controversy before it goes out of control.  

Ariel, I do see what your talking about when you speak about a lack ot love and I have done this myself.  And at this point, I have to say he who is not guilty of this, chunk the first rock.  

Ariel, please don't quit this forum; you're not here by accident.  I'm sure that there are many more replies to come on this particular post.  There are many more to follow, I'm sure, Lord willing.

Please don't take this the wrong way when I say I do agree with everything that Darren said.  However, I see your point because he didn't temper with love and feelings.

I'm gonna post a few scriptures for you to read and it's possible that they don't mean anything to anybody but me, but this is what came to me while reading this particular topic of spiritual edification:

1  Co 1:17
Pr 19:11
Pr 19:10
Job 28:12

Love y'ans in the name of Christ

Dewey & Paula

goin' out on a limb for Jesus - why?  'cause that's where the fruit's at
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 07, 2008, 07:26:16 PM
Dewey.

I’m really offended that when you spoke of two people on this forum who have much wisdom in their posts and did not mention my name I was shocked………..LOL.

                                         In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: dewey on November 07, 2008, 07:36:39 PM
your killing me richard LOL
 love ya brother

 dewey
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: hammerandnails on November 07, 2008, 07:43:24 PM
Dear Dewey, Paula and Richard,

I will not quit this forum unless the moderators ask me too.
And if they do, [that will be a first] I will take it like Paul when he was thrown out of the synagogue,
and I will add it to my biiiiiiiig list of failures.

Here I am, me and my big mouth, getting in trouble!! :'( :'(
But I cannot stand injustice!!!

I am sure that Marques was right, but his approach is my issue.

How can you get edified like this???
And I did not read anywhere that knowing Ray's teaching by heart is a prerequisite.

If we cannot bear with each others folly in love, than we are nothing, and all our learning is in vain!!!!
He did not offended me, he directed his long list of to dos at another brother, and I
could not, well, take it!!

If I cannot stand for justice, I am worse than the scum of the earth!!

I was deeply troubled by this, but I'll get over it!!
Another thing to conquer, right??

Thanks for you kind words.
It helped a lot!!!!!

Your sister in Christ,
Ariel
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Falconn003 on November 07, 2008, 08:46:36 PM
I would love to add my 2 cents to this post, but there's a good chance that I would say all the wrong things.  But there are a number of people on this forum that the Lord has shown us (Dewey & Paula) wisdom in their posts.  But there are two that we feel have an excellent understanding of what it's all about.  Lord willing, they will post on this specific subject.  and I'm gonna tell you who they are right now - I would love and believe that Roger and Indiana Bob have the capacity of wisdom to set this whole thing straight and to cut off at the path the stampede that is sure to happen the way this conversation is going.  From past posts, the Lord leads me to believe that either one of these 2 gentlemen would be able to explain/moderate this controversy before it goes out of control.  

Ariel, I do see what your talking about when you speak about a lack ot love and I have done this myself.  And at this point, I have to say he who is not guilty of this, chunk the first rock.  

Ariel, please don't quit this forum; you're not here by accident.  I'm sure that there are many more replies to come on this particular post.  There are many more to follow, I'm sure, Lord willing.

Please don't take this the wrong way when I say I do agree with everything that Darren said.  However, I see your point because he didn't temper with love and feelings.

I'm gonna post a few scriptures for you to read and it's possible that they don't mean anything to anybody but me, but this is what came to me while reading this particular topic of spiritual edification:

1  Co 1:17
Pr 19:11
Pr 19:10
Job 28:12

Love y'ans in the name of Christ

Dewey & Paula

goin' out on a limb for Jesus - why?  'cause that's where the fruit's at



ME !! wisdom.........hehehehehe i just should ya , i can not built a good dog house  ;D


Peace and thank you for your kind words.......
Rodger
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Kat on November 07, 2008, 11:50:58 PM

Here is an email from Ray on this subject, not real resent, but still applies here.

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1608.0.html ------------

I am fully aware of the fact that everyone wants to be a teacher, but that is one thing that we don't allow on our form for the obvious reasons that it usually gets into unscriptural heresy, and I don't have the time to then read dozens of pages of discussions to sort it all out and comment on it. I don't have enough time to do the important things I need to do.  Our Forum is not the place to try out new ideas and teachings on Biblical themes. You can send them to me, but then again I cannot answer all of these teachings and questions either. There are just too many of them, and our moderators are not trained, nor do they have the time (they all have full-time jobs) to answer all of the different teachings people wish to interject into the Forum.  Hope you understand.

God be with you,

Ray

Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Longhorn on November 08, 2008, 12:54:58 AM
Everbody over to Longhorns for some Pecan pie and some hot apple cider.

Love in Christ

Lonhorn
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: walt123 on November 08, 2008, 05:03:07 AM
wow

All that was a little disturbing.

Longhorn what was time for that together?

walt

PS "why can't we all just get along"
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: winner08 on November 08, 2008, 04:42:50 PM
Hey is this post about me?? what?? temper with love and feelings what?? maby It is not easy for some to express love and feelings It doesn't come easy for me. Is this about me??

Darren
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 08, 2008, 05:49:15 PM
Hi Darren.


The tone of one’s voice and their countenance and body language are all use in communication skills and communicating on a forum looses all these things that help one understand the mood of the one who is communicating.

So it now becomes so easy to read more into what a brother or sister is saying in a negative way than a positive way. Why is this, human nature? Just one more reason to understand our need of God.

I’m also guilty of this very act myself so now I understand how this sort of stuff can happen. I say live and learn but God says love and forgive.  :)

                                  Hope this helps Darren. In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: mharrell08 on November 08, 2008, 05:54:44 PM
Hey is this post about me?? what?? temper with love and feelings what?? maby It is not easy for some to express love and feelings It doesn't come easy for me. Is this about me??

Darren

No Darren...the post that mentioned your name was regarding me. The member mixed up our screen names: mharrell08 & winner08.



Marques
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: dewey on November 08, 2008, 06:55:18 PM
Reply #16

Thanks, Richard, for clearing that subject of tempering of love up.  I think you did good. 

Reply #17
Yes, Marques, you were the one I was speaking of and with all respect due to, my Brother.  And I agree, it can be really hard to show love.  I, too, have had a hard time givin' mine away; but I'm gettin' better at it and here's an example.

Hey, Darren, I'm really sorry for putting your name in that post.

In Christ, love y'ans

Dewey
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: winner08 on November 08, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
No problem dewey: I was just trying to figure out what I said now. ??? ???

Darren
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Jackie Lee on November 08, 2008, 07:13:57 PM
I discovered by God showing me of course, love can be displayed in many different ways, it is not all touchy or words.
In my family growing up years ago no one ever said I love you but we always had food on the table and a warm bed to sleep in.
I felt there was something missing yet I repeat that with my own two daughters.
Love is more than an action but it is nice to hear the words, I fall short in that department but anyone need anything at all if I can I will help.
Maybe that is love incomplete, not sure.

OOPS sorry I thought this was about Love.
Moderators please delete if not spiritually edifying.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: hammerandnails on November 08, 2008, 11:09:42 PM
Hi everybody,

I was not sure where to post this, so I might as well write it here.

The purpose of this post is to beg for forgiveness first and foremost from Marques, and to everybody in this forum.
Please forgive me if I offended or disturbed anyone!
I humbly regret my sarcasm. [I did't even know that I can be so sarcastic.]

As usual, I bit into more than I can chew, and I chocked on it!

The beast is coming out!!

After I read the post of Joe on Where are they now? thread, I realized,
that after all, I was invited into your house and I got on the floor and throw a fit!
And since I don't agree with some people approach, but after all this is your house,
I must humbly take my leave.

I must mention that although I regret the words that I said, I
still stand behind the principle.

I was not offended about what went on, but [since I had different expectations] I was hurt.
Although I will not list all the should haves that I should have done before I joined this forum,
I must say that at least I should have spend some time reading the posts.

As I posted on "help with 1Cor.7:13", I live with a conrolling and unbelieving husband.
To top it all, he is totally uncapable of extending any love, compassion, much less mercy.
One day this thought came to my mind:

" He cannot give you what he does not have"
If you don't have it, how can you give it??
Only when you have it,then you can give it!
Only a free man can set another free or "indeed free".
Only Jesus can give Salvation because is his, he possess it and
He can give it to whosoever He pleases.

Since then, I apply this logic almost everytime I meet with my husband's
lack of love. Sometimes I forget, and peace comes when I am reminded of it.

Furthermore, as, I thought about this issue, [me throwing a fit thing],
I was reminded of scripture that I studied a while ago:

It is in Rom:2:1, and it goes like this:

              " Therefore, you are inexcusable, O man, whosoever you are
                 that judges: for wherein you judge another, YOU CONDEMN
                 YOURSELF; for you who judge DO THE SAME THINGS."

This scripture bugged me for a long time.
So, I was set to find its match.
I found the match in the book of Prov.27:19:
           
               "As in water FACE answers to FACE, so the HEART OF MAN TO MAN."

So, Marques, I am guilty of judging you.
And that because what I saw in you [and others in this forum] is the reflection
of the condition of my heart.

And now, that I least see the ugliness of the beast within, I sorrow with a godly sorrow,
and I pray to my God to find me innocent of this matter.

In the mean time, I humble myself in front of you all and I only pray that you can find it in your heart to forgive me.

I can only hope that you can see that I do all this with a sincere heart,
but I concluded in my heart that I will speak the truth all all cost.
I have warred the mask of fakiness [is there such word?] for a long time,
and as Christ is working in me, I will live to please God, and not men.
For if I please man, I don't please God. And He alone I am set to please.

I thank my Lord for bringing me to the truth through Mr. Ray's teaching,
and I am equally grateful for all of you.
You have been so nice to a stupid girl like me.
And your goodness truly brought me to repentance.

I had printed almost all Ray's teaching [it took a lot of ink], and I will continue to study
the material.
What a wonderful blessing!! ;D ;D

I the first months after I was baptized into the Body of Christ and into His death [June 16,2006],
I was dragged to this scripture in 1John2:27:

              "But the anointing which you have received from Him abides
               in you, and you don't need ANY MAN TEACH YOU: but as the
               same anointing TEACHES YOU OF ALL THINGS, and is truth, and is no lie,
              and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in Him."

It was not rhema to me at the time, but now is.
I knew some things in Ray's teaching way before, and they were floatind somewhere in
my spirit, until, when I started to reed his writings it become a confirmation.

Like all of us, I must keep myself from idols, and by my very beastly nature I can very easily worship
teachers, people, forums, and everything else. And although this decision to leave the forum was not easy,
Christ is make me let go of everything is not of Him, even if they speak the truth.

So, I will consider this forum and my experience here, more like an Inn in my journey [Ray's Inn],
and venture to continue, as comfy as it is, to pick up my cross and follow Christ.
He alone will teach me all things, and like any recipe, the best are the one who you create yourself.

Finally, my brothers and sisters,
if truly Christ is in controll of all things [and He is], and if everything is happening
according to His will, than, we all have many things to learn from this experience!!! :( :( :(
He that has ears to hear, let him hear!!

Thank you again and I hope that you
can extend some mercy to a sister.
Grace, peace and love from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Yours truly,
Ariel





Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: EKnight on November 08, 2008, 11:33:09 PM
How very sad.

I understand your sentiments Ariel but I hope you reconsider leaving.  Your being here was purposeful and I think it could continue to be so.  However, the Lords will be done.  Amen.

Eileen
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: winner08 on November 09, 2008, 12:02:03 AM
listen Ariel: My name is Darren(winner08) and I for one know about being sarcastic and being a smart a#$. In some of my past post (and not too past) I felt bad about some remarks I had made to a brother here and I felt really bad about it. I apoligized a few times and I was forgiven by the members. Let me just say I have found the people here to be very forgiven and kind. I felt that maby I shouldn't post, just read. But they have encouraged me to continue on and I have. WE all have bad days and we all have our moments we are human no matter what. BTW Ariel that last post seemed very heartfelt.You really should reconsider and stay with us. You are here because that is where God wants you to be.why not stay awhile see what happens. You have nothing to loose and everything to gain. there is lots of wisdom here.

Darren
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: aqrinc on November 09, 2008, 01:56:29 AM
Hi Ariel,

Just read your post about going away. Do reconsider and know that: Greater Is He That Is In You;
than he that is in the World.  When the adulterous Woman was brought before Jesus Christ.

Here is an excerpt from The Mark C: 8, when you have a moment read the entire chapter please.

3-And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4-They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5-Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what says you?

6-This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote
on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7-So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him
first cast a stone at her.

george.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on November 09, 2008, 06:21:19 AM
Ariel
Quote
I was invited into your house and I got on the floor and throw a fit!
And since I don't agree with some people approach, but after all this is your house,
I must humbly take my leave


Just a few facts. No one as far as I know is "invited" into this Forum. Some of us may have been "advised" to JOIN the Forum but as far as being INVITED to join, that is another word entirely with another meaning. Those who are in the Forum have been graced to submit our requests to JOIN the Forum and regardless of whether we are here or not we all come in via the SAME DOOR. That door is God's Plan and Purpose for us to be here for however long we are here.

This Forum is not our house. Our home is not a web site Forum of any kind but rather the Mind of Christ that is expressed through the interchange of His Spirit edifying us and leading us within this Forum and hopefully outside this Forum as well.

Arc
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 09, 2008, 11:40:18 AM

Hi Ariel.

I really hope you don’t leave this forum over any misunderstanding whether it is on the part of a member or yourself. Please reconsider my sister leaving.

You know Ariel, life is very difficult and even more so when we have Christ in our life because we are confronted with having to forgive those we find it difficult to forgive but look at the beauty of it, without people pressing the right buttons in us how would we learn to forgive?

I know your life is very difficult from the testimonies you gave on this forum and my heart goes out to you sister,  I have no idea what its like for a women to live with and unloving husband who gives her no credit but only complaints and makes you feel less than.

Ariel, I had this same issue wit ha brother on this forum and even posted about it but in the end I realize the very thing I was against was the very thing I was doing myself.

I once heard we are our own worst enemy and as I reflect upon my life I have no cause to doubt this saying.


Ariel, don’t think your not loved or appreciated here because you are. Remember that cartoon Character Elmer fudge? He use to say oh what a terrible web we weave for ourselves and is this not so true in the lives of everyone? Of course it is.

Relax my sister and take things in strive unto the coming of our Lord and savior Jesus.

God bless you sister.  :)                     In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Beloved on November 09, 2008, 12:14:36 PM
Richard it was Elmer Fudd not Fudge  ;D ;D   I do not know if they see our cartoons in Romania. For those who do not have a clue to Richards reference..Elmer was a befuddled hunter with a speech impediment who chased after Buzz Bunny a crazy and mischievious rabbit.

Back to the topic  Arial , we are all here to grow, that means there will be growing pains..if you are easily offended then your focus is still too much on you. We are to accept all  these offences (small and large)  it is part of our tribulations.  You have not been here long enough to know and see that all of us have been where you are...ready to quit...I too once posted a rebuttal against someone...

Time to "gird your loins" and get back into the fight with the beast.

beloved
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 09, 2008, 12:47:51 PM
Beloved.

It’s been a long time, I’m happy I got the first name right………..LOL……. Thanks for the correction.

Arial, beloved and the rest of us really do care about you so I hope you won’t deny us your companionship here on this forum. A man can never have enough sisters but one wife is enough.  :)

                                           In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Dennis Vogel on November 09, 2008, 12:59:44 PM
Tough Love, Ariel.

Dennis
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 09, 2008, 01:11:34 PM
Ariel,

I have a thread that is posted in testimonies/ prayer/fellowship named different personalities, it’s a helpful thread to read. I believe it really brings these misunderstandings home.  ;)

                                          In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: aqrinc on November 09, 2008, 01:30:39 PM

Now we know who was paying attention, unlike certain people 8) i did at least on this so here are the correct names.  :-*

Elmer Fudge = Elmer Fudd (whewe is that wabbit) ???

Buzz Bunny = Bugs Bunny (eehh what's up doc.) ???

Hi Ariel,

Adding my other penny to this thread, do reconsider and return. There is much to learn and do, time is so fleeting.

george.

Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 09, 2008, 03:07:26 PM
Please let’s not forget about Yogi Bear…….. Hey Hey Hey I don‘t know what to say boo boo…..I probably got this one wrong too….LOL………Forget it…I’m going back to the bible.


                                             In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: hammerandnails on November 09, 2008, 03:43:10 PM
You guys are too much!!!!LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D
......and I said to myself: LIGHTEN UP ARIEL!!!!!

Are you sure? cause I am prety sure you guys will throw me out anyway!
I'll probably step on someone's toes!
Remember my name: hammerandnails!!!lol

Did someone say Romania? I'm from Romania!!
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Richard D on November 09, 2008, 04:17:52 PM
Ariel.

This is great to hear that you’re going to stay. Like I said, a brother can never have enough sisters.

Welcome back Ariel and remember God accepts us as we are he just never leaves us like we are….LOL………..You know what I mean.

God bless you sister and will look forward to your post.  :)

     
                                         In God’s Love. Richard.
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: aqrinc on November 09, 2008, 04:38:28 PM

Hi Ariel,

You know, absence makes the heart grow fonder; i already missed you so welcome back  :-*.
We may fight with each other; but we will join together against any who would try to hurt the
littlest of one of us.

Love and Peace Sister,

george.

Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: hammerandnails on November 09, 2008, 06:14:01 PM
Now, how can I resist?? ::)
You actually made me laugh and cry in the same time. :'( ;D
I love you guys.
The crazies of the world unite!!!
I'll be here for a while.
In Christ alone,
Ariel
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: indianabob on November 09, 2008, 11:08:09 PM
Names are very interesting.  Ariel is short and to the point.
Bob
= = = =

Ariel
There is certainly one person in the Bible named Ariel and that is one among the leaders who are sent to Iddo by Ezra, to ask for temple ministers (8:16-17). Some translations mention an Ariel in either 2 am 23:20 or 1 Chr 11:22 but that is dubious (see below). In Isa 29:1-8 the name Ariel is applied to Jerusalem.

The name Ariel is a compound of the words  (ari 158a), meaning lion or gatherer of food from the verb  (arah 158), to collect, to gather food (see the name Ari), and the name (El 93), the common abbreviation of Elohim.



Now, how can I resist?? ::)
You actually made me laugh and cry in the same time. :'( ;D
I love you guys.
The crazies of the world unite!!!
I'll be here for a while.
In Christ alone,
Ariel
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: Beloved on November 09, 2008, 11:37:12 PM
George that quazy spellchicker messed up BUggs name.... ;D ;D ;D ;D

I should proofread my own stuff after I write it but,   ;D ;D ;D but then again the fonts are too small to see sometimes

Ariel have you ever seen a Bug Bunny cartoon in Romania?

beloved
 
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: aqrinc on November 09, 2008, 11:48:53 PM

ROTF  ;D  :D  :o LMLO thas dispeckabble; dang who let the ducks out  ??? find Longhorn now.

george.

George that quazy spellchicker messed up BUggs name.... ;D ;D ;D ;D

I should proofread my own stuff after I write it but,   ;D ;D ;D but then again the fonts are too small to see sometimes

Ariel have you ever seen a Bug Bunny cartoon in Romania?

beloved
 
Title: Re: Spiritual Edification
Post by: hammerandnails on November 10, 2008, 12:56:14 PM
Yes, we had Bugs Bunny in Romania, but if I remember correctly,
it was shown only in the weekends.
It was a real treat, cause we kids were not allowed to watch it if we did
not finish our chores or we disobeyed.

The only thing that I remember listening to every day was a radio
program that it aired every day at 7:30 Pm, it was called :  "Good evening, kids!!"
It was a half an hour thing, and that signaled our bed time.
At eight it was LIGHTS OUT!!

When I came to America, and escape communism, I watched cartoons non stop!!
Cartoons and Star Trek!!!

Bob, thanks, I did not know that about my name! 8) 8) 8)
How interesting!

I cannot find any new words to show my gratitude to you all!!
So I'll simply say thank you.
P.S.  I didn't know that you guys can be so funny!!! ;D ;D ;D
And since this thread was about edification, I must confess that I was edified!!!

Peace,
Ariel