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=> General Discussions => Topic started by: Craig on April 10, 2006, 02:44:28 PM
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I thought this email should also be posted to the general forum.
Hello Ray,
My apologies if I had assumed something that wasn't there. I never received your final rebuttal, but found it on your forum. I don't appreciate sarcasm, as it does not help me learn a thing so I had to go through an interpreter who rather explained to me what you said without some of the terms you had said. If I feel I am being insulted, I am not open to receiving any correction or even correspondence. I still respect you and your ministry, though for a while there I was questioning why because of the hurtful things that came out of the forums which is hosted on your site. Though encouraged by many who have said good things and did not think badly for me not agreeing with your assessment of John 11:26, I will say plainly that I agree everyone must die. I realized afterwards, I was speaking cryptically and not plainly as I said to Dennis Vogel. Plainly, everyone must die and everyone will be in the grave. I don't think I need to go any further into it because it would serve no purpose. Again I apologize because I did over-reacted, I don't think myself that highly I was only being sarcastic myself when I said I feel honored to be talked about in this manner, truth be told I really don't care to be known all I care about is Jesus and walking with Him in forgiveness and grace, leading as example to others. It really didn't appear that my words or actions were Christ-like. As I said, one day I hope to meet you in person and thank-you for your obedience to the spirit in writing what you have... in almost every facet the Lord showed me what He has shown you concerning Revelation, the Beast, Wrath etc. and your writings from the Holy Spirit are confirmation to the good news that is planted in my heart and yours.
God Bless.
Craig (aka Student of the Word)
Dear Craig:
It's okay, Craig, I harbor no ill feelings toward anyone. The important thing is that you learned, and you are man enough to admit error. There is much that we must all yet learn. I am an exppert and authority on nothing. I make no claims to fame or accomplishment. I am a semi-retired roofer (I still need to supplement my meager retirement), who has a few things to say about the Scriptures and Christendom. Hopefully some of what I write will be helpful to at least a few. I believe that God has given me an understanding of the basics. The details are yet to be filled in. I have yet many things to write about as well as many new things to learn and a few old things yet to unlearn. May God bless our humble efforts to do justice to His Word, and to live godly lives in this wicked eon.
God be with you,
Ray
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Beautiful :D :D
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THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Thank God for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm going to pray for Craig tonight and beg the rest to do likewise.
Love...STeve
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This is awesome, there is much to be learned from both of these posts.
Thank you Ray & Craig!
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Yes this truly is nice to see. now if " RJ " would just do the same. ;)
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I think Craig was really offended, though. I mean...I really didn't feel that Ray had to be that harsh with him.
Even though Ray tries to justify the way he acts sometimes...and I agree that the way he uses sarcasm is effective and should be used sometimes...many of these people really don't deserve such sharp responses.
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I think Craig was really offended, though. I mean...I really didn't feel that Ray had to be that harsh with him.
Even though Ray tries to justify the way he acts sometimes...and I agree that the way he uses sarcasm is effective and should be used sometimes...many of these people really don't deserve such sharp responses.
lets just hope all learned from this, at what point did he stop being a heratic and a wolve?
we all need to learn to be more patient and kind, esspecially on forums where peoples word sometimes dont come across exactly how they want.
peace
chuckt
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I have learnt great truths from Ray and Craig and it is nice to see that they have "made-up"...Bless you bro's! :D
maybe the lesson was that we be patient and kind to each other, no matter whether we agree or not...
I think it was King Solomon who said..."a wise king has many advisors"
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I think Craig was really offended, though. I mean...I really didn't feel that Ray had to be that harsh with him.
Even though Ray tries to justify the way he acts sometimes...and I agree that the way he uses sarcasm is effective and should be used sometimes...many of these people really don't deserve such sharp responses.
I pray this will truly be behind us as we all strive forward in our journey with the Lord.
The truth is that Craig was offensive in the way he went about many things, I am not going to give a laundry list because I forgive him for what he said about us and me personally and I welcome him with open arms if he should wish to return to the forum.
Please let's not set up Craig as a victim, he is a Brother who has learned much through this ordeal and apparently the Lord has seen fit to do it in the manner He did.
Let's all give Craig a warm welcome.
Joe
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Hi folks,
"Behold, how good and how pleasant For brothers to dwell as one. It is like the good oil upon the head, Descending upon the beard, Aaron's beard, which is descending over the slit of his coats. It is like the night mist of Hermon, Which is descending upon the mountain ranges of Zion, For there Yahweh has determined the blessing to be, Life for the eon" (Ps 133:1-3)
"Now I am entreating you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all may be saying the same thing, and there may be no schisms among you, but you may be attuned to the same mind and to the same opinion" (1 Cor 1:10)
"Let brotherly fondness be remaining" (Heb 13:1)[/list:u]AMEN!
Grace and peace to you
Nelson
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I'm pretty certain Craig has not changed his beliefs and is basically mending fences with Ray. i.e. Some of you are misunderstanding his response.
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I agree.
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I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, I don't know what he has been posting in other forums but I am hopeful that he has had a change of heart.
Joe