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=> Off Topic Discussions => Topic started by: Paul on June 25, 2008, 11:35:37 AM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=uyWVrnxamSA
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That is not Ray or this Bible Truths.
Craig
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I know. At the beginning of that video he thanks L. Ray Smith for his site and says he's gonna be using and quoting a lot of his material.
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Wonder if Ray knows this guy? Reading the comments is always interesting.
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Hmmm. I watched this one video and he seems to be on the same page as us/Ray but I have to wonder why he is going out on his own. Why not be a member here if he is in agreement with Ray's teachings. I mean, he is using Ray's material to make his point. I just find it curious. Also, I noticed, on the site there are other videos labeled "Do homosexuals go to Hell" and "Free Will, what a crock" sounds like more of Ray's teachings (although I didn't view the videos).
Eileen
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It looks like he is talking from a prison cell or something...
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It looks like he is talking from a prison cell or something...
Well that explains it, it must be Patrick ;);D ;D
Craig
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;D ;D ;D
I don't know why that is funny Craig! But it is. Patrick we love ya!!
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do not stop him...... he is a friend
and maybe a brother.
PS, I'm sure by now Ray knows and will take care of it if need be.
Randy
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It looks like he is talking from a prison cell or something...
Well that explains it, it must be Patrick ;);D ;D
Craig
You were supposed to help me with bail, wingnut! ;D
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Is their anything wrong with this guy quoting Ray's material??
From Rays emails this guy puts himself out there for attack.
Antaiwan
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I haven't watched his videos but is there any objection to him other than that he is NOT ray?? It was brought up that he doesn't come here and has instead decided to go out on his own, is that bad?? If we judge anyone that doesn't come felowship with us here then we are no different than religious types who say they are the only ones who know the way and that all others are wrong. If He believes the scriptures and is teaching the scriptures (which I assume he is since he claims to agree with ray who uses mountains of scripture) then what is the problem?
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I think Ray is fine with someone useing what he has prepared, as long as they make it known that he is the source and not try to claim it as there own.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Someone just said one of the most blasphemous things I've ever heard in response to this video of his: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SjqObZU8lX4
This god you want is a wimpy old man that could not possibly lift a finger to hurt anyone, but just smile and tell everyone that you can live like you want to I am going to let everyone in the gate when it is all over. This is the hippie god of the 60's, one big party. My God is a jealous God. He wants nothing to come between Him and his people. He hates sin!
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I haven't watched his videos but is there any objection to him other than that he is NOT ray?? It was brought up that he doesn't come here and has instead decided to go out on his own, is that bad?? If we judge anyone that doesn't come felowship with us here then we are no different than religious types who say they are the only ones who know the way and that all others are wrong. If He believes the scriptures and is teaching the scriptures (which I assume he is since he claims to agree with ray who uses mountains of scripture) then what is the problem?
yeah, what about Mark 9:38-40? I'm on mobile now so I'm not 100% sure about the chapter and verse, but I remember Jesus saying something about this kind of situation. God bless you,... EIRIK
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Hi Everyone,
This is from the opening page of the http://bible-truths.com/ site;
Everyone is welcome to copy the material on this site and freely distribute it to others. You do not need permission from us to do this. All we ask is that you do not in any way, CHANGE, PLAGIARIZE or SELL any material from bible-truths.com.
Peace,
Joe
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Someone wanna explain to some of the commentors why verses like these aren't problematic to universalism?
Mathew 7:21-23 Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
Another problem with universalism!!
http://youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=SjqObZU8lX4&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DSjqObZU8lX4
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I see no problem with those verses at all.
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Neither do I, but at the moment I can't think of a way of explaining it. If anyone wants to comment on that video, which is getting a lot of traffic, feel free.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SjqObZU8lX4
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I replied but directed him to bible-truths.com to the answer to his question. I didnt want to go out on a limb so I asked him if he denied some key scriptures. If they do not believe those scriptures then they do not believe in the authority of the scriptures so whats the point in arguing anyway?
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Someone wanna explain to some of the commentors why verses like these aren't problematic to universalism?
Mathew 7:21-23 Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
Another problem with universalism!!
http://youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=SjqObZU8lX4&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DSjqObZU8lX4
Hi Paul,
These verses might help;
1Co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Along with these;
Job 33:29 "God does all these things to a man—
twice, even three times-
Job 33:30 to turn back his soul from the pit,
that the light of life may shine on him.
Luk 12:38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find [them] so, blessed are those servants.
Peace,
Joe