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Eze 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle and speak a parable unto the house of Israel;
We all know the bible is a giant parable, it can be a riddle as well. Anyone see a very relevent riddle below?
Exodus 4
1And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee.
2And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.
3And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.
4And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand:
5That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee.
6And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.
7And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh.
Peace,
Joe
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It is multi leveled (as is so much of scripture) therefore there is more than one "correct" answer......
Peace,
Joe
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I would like to take a guess at this one. The people needed proof that Moses had a chat with God. If Moses were to throw that rod down to the ground, it would probaly turn into a serpent. And in the same way Moses could change the color of his hand, magic tricks, so people would believe him.
Ricky
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Hi Joe,
I may not understand the question, there are several riddles. One i see is that people walk
by sight and not by faith (they will not believe without some visual evidence). Even though
we learn in the Scriptures that The (Spiritual) things unseen are so much more Powerful than
the (physical) things seen.
george. :)
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Ummm, only God can make people believe?? ??? :-\
Eileen
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Joel 2:25
"Then I will make up to you for the years That the swarming locust has eaten
:)
Rodger
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I'll give it a try.
Verse 1. Adam and Eve didn't believe God nor did folks believe Jesus.
Verse 2. Jesus rules with and rod.
Verse 3. God cursed the serpent to be on the ground and eat "dust". Man is made from dust, but that's a whole nother riddle.
Verse 4. I don't have a guess.
Verses 5 6 and 7. Being called into babylon and it's makes us leprous. Then God calls us to come to His Church; we go in and are cleansed.
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Hi All,
larissa you came pretty close there... Good show!
Can we look at these verses and see the beginning of the Church (at Pentecost) receiving the former rain, being of one mind, with one accord.
Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Then we have;
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
Rev 2:9 I know thy works and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
We had the undefiled Church at Pentecost but in a short time the leaven began to take hold until the churches were totally corrupted, that is still their state but what is our hope? What is our promise? What is to come?
Revelation 22
1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
Amen!
Also as larissa pointed to is the individual fulfillment of this in all of our walks, losing sight of our first love (Christ) as we are tainted with the leaven of the Pharisees and the doctrines of devils but being called out of that system into a new and better One on one relationship with our Lord!
Peace (thanks to all who replied),
Joe
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Joel 2:25
"Then I will make up to you for the years That the swarming locust has eaten
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Rodger
Very cool Rodger,
I see you picked up on the theme or pattern! Anyone else have any verses that fit?
George, you are so right about several riddles being contained as is so true with all scriptures.
Peace,
Joe
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Joe, you guys are so smart! I wish I was more of a deep thinker! :D
Great insights! I'm not a deep thinker, but I can see what you're saying!! :D
Kathy ;)
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Lots of scripture there Joe I will add one cents too, short of time
Lets look at the words riddle and parable
H4912 משׁל mâshâl maw-shawl'
Apparently from H4910 in some original sense of superiority in mental action; properly a pithy maxim, usually of a metaphorical nature; hence a simile (as an adage, poem, discourse): - byword, like, parable, proverb.
H2420 חידה chîydâh khee-daw'
From H2330; a puzzle; hence a trick, conundrum, sententious maxim: - dark saying (sentence, speech), hard question, proverb, riddle.
Most of the obvious or non hidden riddles were in Judges centered around Samson (lots of spiritual metaphors there) and as we know that the NT is "riddled with what appear to be plainly written parables but even these are not revealed to all.
Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:
(Exo 4:2) And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.
H4294 מטּה מטּה maṭṭeh maṭṭâh mat-teh', mat-taw' rodFrom H5186; a branch (as extending); figuratively a tribe; also a rod, whether for chastising (figuratively correction), ruling (a sceptre), throwing (a lance), or walking (a staff; figuratively a support of life, for example bread): - rod, staff, tribe.
Deu 28:13 KJV And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do them:
(Deu 28:13) YLT`And Jehovah hath given thee for head, and not for tail; and thou hast been only above, and art not beneath, for thou dost hearken unto the commands of Jehovah thy God, which I am commanding thee to-day, to keep and to do,
H2180 זנב zânâb zaw-nawb'
From H2179 (in the original sense of flapping); the tail (literally or figuratively): - tail.
H7218 ראשׁ rô'sh roshe
From an unused root apparently meaning to shake; the head (as most easily shaken), whether literally or figuratively (in many applications, of place, time, rank, etc.): - band, beginning, captain, chapiter, chief (-est place, man, things), company, end, X every [man], excellent, first, forefront, ([be-]) head, height, (on) high (-est part, [priest]), X lead, X poor, principal, ruler, sum,
(Isa 9:14) KJV Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.
Isa 9:15 The ancient and honorable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail
(Isa 9:14) YLT And Jehovah cutteth off from Israel head and tail, Branch and reed--the same day,
(Isa 9:15) Elder, and accepted of face, he is the head, Prophet, teacher of falsehood, he is the tail.
Now see
(Exo 4:3) And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.
the snake is a perfect metaphor, telling the difference between head and tail can be confusing, they are sometimes posonous,
(2Co 11:13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Rodger
Joel 2:25
"Then I will make up to you for the years That the swarming locust has eaten
There has got to be some interesting connections to this reference... is this a serious response to Joe or a rhetorical one ? ;D ;D
beloved
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Well Kathy you are one step ahead of me. I don't see the connection. On a stand alone basis I understand each post but I most definitely don't see the "thread" or connection. ???
Seriously, I don't know why I bother even trying. :(
Eileen
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Hi Eileen,
Please don't try to dig too deeply here, it is a relatively simple thing this pattern of good, then evil, then a restoration with the restoration oftentimes being better than the original.
Garden of Eden..... thorny earth........ Paradise
Pentecost (former rain)........ falling away (Synagogue of Satan)...... true Temple of God built with lively (living) stones, God is All in All
Rod (iron rod of Christ), serpent, Rod
Remember Job having a comfortable even prosperous life and then Satan (with God's permission) takes it all away, even Job's health? Then of course all is restored to him with an even more prosperous life.
You know this is true with our Lord as well, He had the glory with His Father, then came to this earth as a humble servant to experience evil as He reconciled man to God, now Christ sits at the right hand of His Father more glorious than before!
Also I wanted to add that in no way am I saying this is all that this bit from Exodus 4 represents, I believe the texture and depth of His Word to be infinite in its wisdom.
Peace,
Joe
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Eileen,
Listen to Joe! He told you straight! :D
There is no need to knock yourself out if you don't understand something because if I have learned ANYTHING reading posts on this forum it is this: grab what you understand and dig in more deeply. Take what you don't understand and ask God to show it to you. If He gives you insight, great! If not, just take that as something He will lead you to at another time! ALWAYS remember that Jesus said, (Mat 11:29) Lift My yoke upon you and be learning from Me, for meek am I and humble in heart, and you shall be finding rest in your souls,
(Mat 11:30) for My yoke is kindly and My load is light." CLV
What could be easier than that?! ;D I can get that REALLY easily! (Have you guessed, I like easy!) :D
Kathy ;)
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Kathy,
That is the best advice yet, thank you for putting it out here.
Eileen, i have to endorse what Ninny wrote, it is sound counsel.
Joe, i have a headache trying to figure out the Proverbs and Parables in this.
Thanks for making us think and search; this is Good for all. Redundancy in The
Scriptures eliminates the possibility of error once one learns to read properly.
I am not there yet but have latched on to this Scripture:
Isaiah 28:10:
For precept must be on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line; here a little, and there a little:
Isaiah 28:13:
But the word of the LORD was to them precept on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line;
here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
george. :)
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Joe,
I have read your last three threads and have resisted responding for some reason. I cannot hold back any longer. I said it to my husband and now I will say it to you. You must be one of the kindest and gentlest souls on this planet. I think I have said this to you once before but I will say it again, your threads have come and inspired me in times of great need. Your responses are kind, gentle and yet informative. You have wisdom that I trust. I have sincerely thanked God for you on this forum. You have been like a guardian angel for me at times. I know you are saying to yourself that you are just a man and that you are not worthy of this praise but I was compelled to say it so I suppose God wanted you to hear it. Not that my praise is of any value but the fruits of the spirit are clearly manifest through your posts and I could not contain myself from saying these words to you. For whatever they are worth.
Thanks again for sharing the wisdom that God has graced you with.
Eileen
Kathy,
Thank you for your personal insight. It is always helpful to me to hear that others struggle and how they handle it. You too appear to be a gentle soul with a great sense of humor. :) I can tell that few things ruffle your feathers. You have a knack of ignoring the negative and focusing on the positive. You bring to me a simpler understanding when you post.
Thanks Again,
Eileen
George (love your name!)
I don't think you give yourself enough credit. Your posts always seem to have a grasp of the scriptures. And you clearly know many scriptures that are pertinent to most threads. I can't even do that much. I have been here nine months and rarely can share relevant scriptures to posts. I hope to have your understanding someday but it's not looking like that any time soon. But I have said that a lot here at BT. Yet I am still here plugging along.
Patiently plugging away,
Eileen
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Eileen,
I second your post to Joe. Joe you ARE an inspiration to all of us! We really need you here so don't ever leave us, OK? :D
I am inspired by the kindness and love of everyone on this forum. We keep each other buoyed up when things look stormy! If it takes tears or smiles to keep each other going then that's what it will be! George is sweet ;) he is a great friend! He'll inspire you to keep searching until you find the answers!
So many others on here are instant in prayer for any need, this is just a great family to be a part of!
I'm glad you are here, Eileen!
Kathy :D
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eknight, you are not aone here in understanding everything, please believe me. Some of what the others say confuse the heck out of me. Just get what you can get for now and relax. If it weren't for the patience of those here I would have been gone already. I am having so much trouble with a few things but am putting them aside for now and maybe God will give me light later. Please keep trying, you are courageous being here knowing these people are so biblically versed and spiritual and they could wipe your arguments out with a sentence. Love you, Judy
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Rodger
Joel 2:25
"Then I will make up to you for the years That the swarming locust has eaten
There has got to be some interesting connections to this reference... is this a serious response to Joe or a rhetorical one ? ;D ;D
beloved
It is a comparison of Spiritual to Spiritual. This Parable is Our main Basis of Our FAITH. :)
Rodger
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Well Kathy you are one step ahead of me. I don't see the connection. On a stand alone basis I understand each post but I most definitely don't see the "thread" or connection. ???
Seriously, I don't know why I bother even trying. :(
Eileen
You bother because you hear the Voice calling you out and Your Spirit follows. :)
Think of it like when you crawl or walk in front of infants and babies so that they would, become INTICED to follow the clear path you laid for them.
Rodger
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The first thing that came to my mind was the idea of taking control of serpents, we flee on our own but with the power of God we take them by the tail. Then the idea of being changed from a fleshy creature to that of a spiritual creature came to mind. It ended then to me of the fact that only by God's power do we overcome.
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Rodger, I understand the concept...
Joel 2:25
"Then I will make up to you for the years That the swarming locust has eaten
I was only pointing to the fact that you put the solitary piece of Scripture forth .......and now some explantion to go with it too.
beloved
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Therefore it is GOD who "PRODUCES" qualities in the saints that will GLORIFY HIMSELF! http://bible-truths.com/lake3.html
Arc
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many members here and guest readers have seen me cast my rod down and seen the serpent i cast on the ground in the face of challenges to Our Faith and Truths. They immediately recognize the serpent and the fear it carries "DEATH".
Some challenges just ignore the serpent, others back away, still some run away to some other audiences and speak of my horror. stating how evil i am for casting a serpent down. Never much of questioning what i am delivering but rather question in the manner on how i delivered the Truth. And never realizing by what authority i cast the serpent down, I have NO authority over satan less given to me by God, is this not TRUTH ? satan can not instruct me less given authority by God, is this not TRUTH ?
So here is the dilemma, i can not cast a serpent down and satan can not instruct me unless God Wills it to be done. Even though still there are created the ideas, of the evils that are done BY ME. Are they really done by me ALONE ? Is there/are there any Scripture to this assumption/s that i can alone cast serpents on the ground of my own.
Now when God commands me to lift up the serpent, i casted on the ground by it's tail and explain or give Scripture to why i did so cast that serpent on the ground, some readers see that it is no longer harmful, nor threatening and the readers See and Understand, by what i authority i did so cast my rod down and it became a serpent to some, and yet to others, whom Live Truth, in the Word of God, it remained a rod.
I have stated so many times i can not myself write Squat, yet many readers have sent me messages how they enjoy my post and i vehemently explain they are not mine but God's, so give Glory and Praise to God always, because this is saying you understand by WHAT authority all our works are done. This will cement in your Spirit :::You Believe and you have FAITH !
Now has this same events not happen in your own lives as well by the Grace and Will of God. The parable is Speaking to Your Spirit, and most if not all have seen similar circumstances happin in their own private walks with God.
Peace and Growth
Rodger
PS this in no way is meant as any form of me trying to justify my actions, only stating what i have been studying in the Word of God.
Rodger,
When one starts to understand your quote from above,it truly is a revelation how the Spirit begins to work in ones self.
What a Blessing to see this.
Peace... Mark
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Thanks Rodger , Now I will also try to explain more of what I meant when I wrote my post
I have put the translations for some of the hebrew words to assist some who do not use esword or do not have the time to look things up . Remember you have to look at the other scriptures to see the use of the word, the translators of Strong's and Thayer etc are influence in their translation by their own belief system rather than by the Spirit of the word..
Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:
(Exo 4:2) And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod
In the first verse, God tells us we are not to attempt self salvation
Put forth his hand this denotes self power
Put forth
H7971 ׁ shâlach shaw-lakh'
A primitive root; to send away, for, or out (in a great variety of applications): - X any wise, appoint, bring (on the way), cast (away, out), conduct, X earnestly, forsake, give (up), grow long, lay, leave, let depart (down, go, loose), push away, put (away, forth, in, out), reach forth, send (away, forth, out), set, shoot (forth, out), sow, spread, stretch forth (out).
Hand 1
H3027 yâd yawd
A primitive word; a hand (the open one (indicating power, means, direction, etc.), in distinction from H3709, the closed one); used (as noun, adverb, etc.) in a great variety of applications, both literally and figuratively, both proximate and remote: - (+ be) able, X about, + armholes, at, axletree, because of, beside, border, X bounty, + broad, [broken-] handed, X by, charge, coast, + consecrate, + creditor, custody, debt, dominion, X enough, + fellowship, force, X from, hand [-staves, -y work], X he, himself, X in, labour, + large, ledge, [left-] handed, means, X mine, ministry, near, X of, X order, ordinance, X our, parts, pain, power, X presumptuously, service, side, sore, state, stay, draw with strength, stroke, + swear, terror, X thee, X by them, X themselves, X thine own, X thou, through, X throwing, + thumb, times, X to, X under, X us, X wait on, [way-] side, where, + wide, X with (him, me, you), work, + yield, X yourselves
Exodus , when asked Moses / we admit that we have the rod…the right to rule and reign in our hand (our power)
God tells Moses / us to cast it down…when we obey we see what it is
I added these following scriptures and perhaps they confused some but they tie together
(Deu 28:13) YLT`And Jehovah hath given thee for head, and not for tail; and thou hast been only above, and art not beneath butfor thou dost hearken unto the commands of Jehovah thy God, which I am commanding thee to-day, to keep and to do,
(Isa 9:14) KJV Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day. here I see judgement in that God is doing it
Isa 9:15 The ancient and honorable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail here God explains one aspect of the words
It is God himself that will exalt man, not man, because the only way he is able to keep his commandments is through the working of God in him.
Those who have been given this truth are the head/above and when you had false doctrines in your life you are the tail/below
(Exo 4:3) And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.
When you cast the rod you see it for what it was…deceit and false teachings the earthy carnal things that you were carrying
(2Co 11:13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Like the serpent /rod are trying to rule and reign here in their carnal state
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple
Both of these verse speak to what one is doing when one carries the rod/ false teachings, you think you are doing God work spreading the word but you are spreading dung. You are satisfying your own desires for fame /money or self gratification and not giving glory to God to whom it belongs
I did not address the other verses Joe posited but will so here
5That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee.
6And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.
7And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh
The God of their fathers, were those men that God had mercy toward and obey his commands and were provided for by God in their day, their stories are spiritual lessons for those whose ears and eyes are opened….we do not need any physical signs or wonders.
In the verses above , in both case the hand was put in…this is a self made act, when this happened the result was leprosy… remember the verse above that It is God that sows and plants when we do it is carnal/sin
This put forth the hand has the same meaning in the verses I posted at the beginning in genesis and elsewhere in the scriptures
Put forth
H7971 ׁ shâlach shaw-lakh'
A primitive root; to send away, for, or out (in a great variety of applications): - X any wise, appoint, bring (on the way), cast (away, out), conduct, X earnestly, forsake, give (up), grow long, lay, leave, let depart (down, go, loose), push away, put (away, forth, in, out), reach forth, send (away, forth, out), set, shoot (forth, out), sow, spread, stretch forth (out).
It is God who sows and plants and reaps
Psa 92:13 Those that be planted in the house of the LORD shall flourish in the courts of our God.
Psa 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
Moses was then told to return his hand to his bosom
H7725 shûb shoob
A primitive root; to turn back (hence, away) transitively or intransitively, literally or figuratively (not necessarily with the idea of return to the starting point); generally to retreat; often adverbially again: - ([break, build, circumcise, dig, do anything, do evil, feed, lay down, lie down, lodge, make, rejoice, send, take, weep]) X again, (cause to) answer (+ again), X in any case (wise), X at all, averse, bring (again, back, home again), call [to mind], carry again (back), cease, X certainly, come again (back) X consider, + continually, convert, deliver (again), + deny, draw back, fetch home again, X fro, get [oneself] (back) again, X give (again), go again (back, home), [go] out, hinder, let, [see] more, X needs, be past, X pay, pervert, pull in again, put (again, up again), recall, recompense, recover, refresh, relieve, render (again), X repent, requite, rescue, restore, retrieve, (cause to, make to) return, reverse, reward, + say nay, send back, set again, slide back, still, X surely, take back (off), (cause to, make to) turn (again, self again, away, back, back again, backward, from, off), withdraw.
But then it says when the hand was PLUCKED OUT….condemned, pulled out send out with commandment, then it was made whole…
Plucked out
H3318 yâtsâ' yaw-tsaw'
A primitive root; to go (causatively bring) out, in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively, direct and proximate: - X after, appear, X assuredly, bear out, X begotten, break out, bring forth (out, up), carry out, come (abroad, out, thereat, without), + be condemned, depart (-ing, -ure), draw forth, in the end, escape, exact, fail, fall (out), fetch forth (out), get away (forth, hence, out), (able to, cause to, let) go abroad (forth, on, out), going out, grow, have forth (out), issue out, lay (lie) out, lead out, pluck out, proceed, pull out, put away, be risen, X scarce, send with commandment, shoot forth, spread, spring out, stand out, X still, X surely, take forth (out), at any time, X to [and fro], utter.
Jer 12:15 And it shall come to pass, after that I have plucked them out I will return, and have compassion on them, and will bring them again, every man to his heritage, and every man to his land.
Mat 5:29 `But, if thy right eye doth cause thee to stumble, pluck it out and cast from thee, for it is good to thee that one of thy members may perish, and not thy whole body be cast to Gehenna.
Gen 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
This word risen is the same as plucked out....the power of the sun was literally hurled into sodom and gamorrah
Now in the verse when Moses takes the serpent by the tail , notice the word take
H270 'âchaz aw-khaz'
A primitive root; to seize (often with the accessory idea of holding in possession): - + be affrighted, bar, (catch, lay, take) hold (back), come upon, fasten, handle, portion, (get, have or take) possess (-ion).
He then Caught it
H2388 châzaq khaw-zak'
A primitive root; to fasten upon; hence to seize, be strong (figuratively courageous, causatively strengthen, cure, help, repair, fortify), obstinate; to bind, restrain, conquer: - aid, amend, X calker, catch, cleave, confirm, be constant, constrain, continue, be of good (take) courage (-ous, -ly), encourage (self), be established, fasten, force, fortify, make hard, harden, help, (lay) hold (fast), lean, maintain, play the man, mend, become (wax) mighty, prevail, be recovered, repair, retain, seize, be (wax) sore, strengthen (self), be stout, be (make, shew, wax) strong (-er), be sure, take (hold), be urgent, behave self valiantly, withstand.
This word does not descibe man but Gods action in man
You now have to see that when he caught the tail…it becomes a rod in an open hand….HE is not holding it….God is soverign and HE HOLDS IT ALL
Hand 2 H3709 kaph kaf
From H3721; the hollow hand or palm (so of the paw of an animal, of the sole, and even of the bowl of a dish or sling, the handle of a bolt, the leaves of a palm tree); figuratively power: - branch, + foot, hand ([-ful], -dle, [-led]), hollow, middle, palm, paw, power, sole, spoon.
When we return sovereignty to God, then we know his plan and rule and reign with him in the same sense that Moses was let in on what was going to happen to Sodom and Gomorrah
(Gen 18:17) And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;
yes George,
Isaiah 28:13:
But the word of the LORD was to them precept on precept, precept on precept; line on line, line on line;
here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken
God has laid it all out there, for those he has given eyes to see and ears to hear
This is my limited attempt to show you what I see in these verses,
beloved
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Rodger,
When one starts to understand your quote from above,it truly is a revelation how the Spirit begins to work in ones self.
What a Blessing to see this.
Peace... Mark
Mark welcome to our forum and fellwoship, wonderful insight to enlightment God Willed upon you.
This knowledge/Understanding can only come from our Father, praise and glory be to God for opeing your eyes and ears.
Rodger
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Beloved
WOW and wonderlful, God gives to you another ensight, as Joe stated this riddle can and will have other revelations within it.
Rodger
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Many interesting observations here, thank you all for your contributions!
I appreciate the kind words Eileen & Kathy (Ninny).
Peace,
Joe