bible-truths.com/forums

=> General Discussions => Topic started by: Dennis Vogel on August 07, 2008, 11:32:13 PM

Title: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Dennis Vogel on August 07, 2008, 11:32:13 PM: Many of you know from another post about Ray's prostrate cancer returning.

Today he had bone scans and the cancer is throughout his body. Too much to consider chemotherapy.

His doctor says the best he can do is try and extend his life. But Ray is going to try and beat it somehow.

This should not affect the conference. Right now he feels about the same as he has for the last few years.

I know everyone will pray with more urgency, and Ray wants you to know he appreciates your prayers very much.

Dennis
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: rk12201960 on August 07, 2008, 11:57:47 PM: It is a sad day today.
My prayers to you Ray and your loved ones.
God bless you brother.
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: winner08 on August 08, 2008, 12:07:34 AM: I' am so sorry, I will pray for Ray. This is truly a sad day. I know I haven't been part of this group for very long, I wish I found y'all long ago. I learned so much in such a short time. Dennis is there anything I can do other than pray??

Darren
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: gmik on August 08, 2008, 12:33:28 AM: GOD KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING!!!!

We have to believe this.

ALL THINGS ARE IN HIS WILL.

We have to believe this.

Lets put into practice what Ray has taught us.

GOD IS THE HEALER!!

We have to believe this.
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Phil3:10 on August 08, 2008, 12:45:46 AM: What a shock ! I knew Ray had health issues but to hear this news is indeed sad. I will pray for Ray and ask all who have been blessed with his teachings to pray for Ray and all his family. HEAVENLY FATHER, all is in YOUR HANDS and in YOUR WILL. Please bless and keep Ray in your service. Amen.
Phil3:10
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Phill B on August 08, 2008, 01:01:18 AM: Quote from: Phil3:10 on August 08, 2008, 12:45:46 AM
HEAVENLY FATHER, all is in YOUR HANDS and in YOUR WILL. Please bless and keep Ray in your service. Amen.
Phil3:10

Amen.
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: iris on August 08, 2008, 02:06:40 AM: To hear this news is sad,

I am so sorry. :'(

Ray and his family will be in my prayers.

Iris
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Linny on August 08, 2008, 03:03:52 AM: This breaks my heart but please may I say that just because the doctor's offer no hope doesn't mean options are out.
We believe that God has provided natural means for healing. I know too many who have kicked cancer so I wouldn't use a traditional doctor anyway. God's way is so much less stressful, less painful and quicker as well.

Please, if Ray is interested, he can email me and I can tell him about natural options and even a natural clinic that he can try. Many have gone there after being given a poor report and come home well.

Many blessings and prayers sent up,
Lin
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: cjwood on August 08, 2008, 04:00:03 AM: when i first read the news about the cancer returning and spreading i literally broke out in a sweat and said a soft, "oh no!!!". but then i recalled the things God has taught us thru His servant ray. most especially i have learned that God is in charge of all of it. God will not leave us as orphans in the storm. He is a loving and merciful God and He knows how important ray is to us. this news blazes with gehenna fire for ray and for each one of us who love ray. God's timing is ALWAYS perfect and His plan is ALWAYS perfect. this is our opportunity to trust in our Great Physician. i pray that the blood of Jesus Christ will cleanse ray's blood. i pray that God will have mercy on ray and his family and on us his brothers and sisters in Christ. i pray that God will cause each and every one of us to study even more diligently, putting into practice the things we have learned from ray. i pray that ray will continue under the protective shadow of God Almighty. God knows what He is doing and He knows this news has knocked the breath out of us. will we fall down and stay down? wrong paleface... ray, i have booked my room for nashville and i have so been looking forward to meeting you. my special petition to our Heavenly Father is simply this, "Dear God, please heal l. ray smith because we need him."

most sincerely,
claudia
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Samarnon on August 08, 2008, 04:52:54 AM: Quote from: cjwood on August 08, 2008, 04:00:03 AM
when i first read the news about the cancer returning and spreading i literally broke out in a sweat and said a soft, "oh no!!!". but then i recalled the things God has taught us thru His servant ray. most especially i have learned that God is in charge of all of it. God will not leave us as orphans in the storm. He is a loving and merciful God and He knows how important ray is to us. this news blazes with gehenna fire for ray and for each one of us who love ray. God's timing is ALWAYS perfect and His plan is ALWAYS perfect. this is our opportunity to trust in our Great Physician. i pray that the blood of Jesus Christ will cleanse ray's blood. i pray that God will have mercy on ray and his family and on us his brothers and sisters in Christ. i pray that God will cause each and every one of us to study even more diligently, putting into practice the things we have learned from ray. i pray that ray will continue under the protective shadow of God Almighty. God knows what He is doing and He knows this news has knocked the breath out of us. will we fall down and stay down? wrong paleface... ray, i have booked my room for nashville and i have so been looking forward to meeting you. my special petition to our Heavenly Father is simply this, "Dear God, please heal l. ray smith because we need him."

most sincerely,
claudia

AMEN to that!

I'm praying that God, our Healer, the Greatest Physician will extend His healing hands to L.Ray in Jesus Name!

Joy
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: David on August 08, 2008, 04:58:41 AM: This is very sad news. I knew Ray wasn't in the best of health, but had no idea he had cancer. What a shock. My prayers are with him daily, that God will see fit to heel him quickly.
David
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Robin on August 08, 2008, 06:43:09 AM: When my heart is so heavy that I can't find words I read this poem I found several years ago and it brings me comfort. I will pray for Ray with all my heart.

THE WILL OF GOD

The will of God will never take you,
Where the grace of God cannot keep you,
Where the arms of God cannot support you,
Where the riches of God cannot supply your needs,
Where the power of God cannot endow you.

The will of God will never take you,
Where the Spirit of God cannot work through you,
Where the wisdom of God cannot teach you,
Where the army of God cannot protect you,
Where the hands of God cannot mold you.

The will of God will never take you,
Where the love of God cannot enfold you,
Where the mercies of God cannot sustain you,
Where the peace of God cannot calm your fears,
Where the authority of God cannot overrule for you.

The will of God will never take you,
Where the comfort of God cannot dry your tears,
Where the Word of God cannot feed you,
Where the miracles of God cannot be done for you,
Where the omnipresence of God cannot find you.

Everything happens for a purpose. We may not see the wisdom of it all now, but trust and believe in God that everything is for the best.

~Author unknown~
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: dogcombat on August 08, 2008, 09:57:31 AM: To Ray, the Moderators, and Forum members

It is my earnest prayer, that in light of the traumatic news regarding the health of our brother L. Ray Smith. That we may understand God's will with much more clarity today. Ray has shared with readers (both forum members and non-members) the truths that God has revealed unto him. I don't know what's on the horizon for Ray & Manuela. But my prayer is, that in light of what has been revealed in the various scans, that God reveal more of Christ to not only them but to those here at Bible Truths.com, so that we can overcome with the Grace that is sufficient for today. Many of us have our own health & family issues that have been posted on the forum. Know that Eph 1:11 MEANS what it says, that God "works ALL things after the counsel of HIS own will.

Brother Ray, I can only hope that you're likely Jonah in the belly of the whale. I know it looks dark for now, but GOD has you right where HE wants you, and HE will have the final say on what's to come. Though I haven't met you and Manuela in person, those who have posted their experiences of meeting you both make me wish I had. Even though I'm NOWHERE near the maturity level that you're at right now. Although I have been guilty of putting your writings on a pedistal (Idolatry), I understand that you're a brother being led humbly on this walk of life in Christ. One thing for certain, the Lord does NOT lead us on the path of least resistance. May His strength flow to you and those He's moved to pray according to His Will.

God be with you
Ches
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: cherokee on August 08, 2008, 10:28:33 AM: Very sad news indeed. :'(
I can only echo the prayers of others.

Peace and Love to Ray and his family.

Suzie
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: OBrenda on August 08, 2008, 10:45:46 AM: >:( :'( :-[ >:(:'( :'( .....Unutterable groaning.....
Brenda
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Roy Monis on August 08, 2008, 12:24:06 PM: Hi! Dennis

Thank you yet again brother. Ray is a fighter. God is gracious and merciful. The power of Prayer is explosive. A true servant of God is invaluable in these days of darkness. So God's will will be done in answer to our united prayer in the precious name of Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen!

Forgive me for breaking my promise Indianabob, but on this occasion I couldn't care less.

“For the eyes of the Lord are toward the righteous, And His ears attend to their prayer, But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” (1Pet.3:12).

God bless you brother in our joint walk in Christ.

Love in Christ Jesus.

Roy UK
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Samson on August 08, 2008, 12:44:08 PM: Quote from: gmik on August 08, 2008, 12:33:28 AM
GOD KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING!!!!

We have to believe this.

ALL THINGS ARE IN HIS WILL.

We have to believe this.

Lets put into practice what Ray has taught us.

GOD IS THE HEALER!!

We have to believe this.

Sad News for All,

   Of course, Gena is right, as stated above, it's definitely the right attitude. No one enjoys or likes Trials and Sufferings, when they occur, even though it's God's Will for us to purify, train, disipline in preparation for future events. According to Dennis Vogel's initial Post, Ray has an Optimistic approach to his recent news. This News about Ray might help the rest of us realize that our own personal problems and sufferings are not all that bad in comparison to Ray having cancer throughout his body. It might help all of us to not be so selfish about our problems and realize that maybe we don't have it so bad. An example of Cause/effect relationship or Cause leading to choice.

   We hope and We Pray for Ray and his Wife, just think what she might be suffering as a result of this.

   Thinking of Ray & His Wife, Samson.
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: chav on August 08, 2008, 02:29:33 PM: Hi
Both Karen and I are very sorry to hear of Ray's condition.Our prayers are with Ray and his family at this difficult time.
Dave
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: dave on August 08, 2008, 03:46:57 PM: This is very sad news were I to accept to retain it in my natural
and earthy thoughts....I do not. Praise the Name of Jesus :)
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Mike T on August 08, 2008, 07:20:23 PM: John 14:27
"...I do not give to you as the world gives..."
:'(
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: cjwood on August 08, 2008, 07:51:06 PM: in meditating on ray's health condition i started thinking about all the naysayers who email ray daily damning him to burn in hell (which we know isn't the Truth) because of ray's teachings. i also started thinking about all those who believe that sickness is caused by satan because of sin, and all those who will say that ray's cancer is because of his teachings. then i remembered the teaching by ray that Jesus was diseased and sickly. i know this is something many of those on the bt forum may have already realized, as many are more mature in their understanding of the Scriptures, but in my meditations on this matter i had an "aha moment". how could Jesus' sickness and disease be caused by sin when He never sinned?!!! it was then that God truly opened my eyes to the truth that He is the One who allows/uses sickness and disease to come on His children as opportunity to grow in faith and trust in Him alone. of course, those who believe Jesus was perfect in body while on Earth, also believe that sickness comes to us because of our sin. i know this post is rambling a bit, but i just wanted to share how God opened my eyes to CONFIRM that we who suffer in our bodies do so because of His Will and His doing, and not because we are being punished for our sin. ray's cancer run amok has brought me to understand in earnest how ray and each one of us who believe the Truth of the Scriptures, suffer our fiery trials on Earth. i believe there are many more things God has to reveal to ray for our benefit. i ask God for mercy on ray.

love to all,
claudia
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: pylady on August 08, 2008, 10:14:27 PM: It is difficult to think right now after such shocking news. But the comments of all of you serve to remind me that all is in God's hands. We must trust in Him with all our hearts to make all work out for good.

He has given us a glimpse of the prize we will receive if we but endure. This is one of the more difficult moments to endure. Please help us trust in you Lord. And please keep our beloved brother, L Ray Smith, in your loving care.

Cindy
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Heidi on August 09, 2008, 11:27:07 PM: Quote from: cjwood on August 08, 2008, 07:51:06 PM
...... but in my meditations on this matter i had an "aha moment". how could Jesus' sickness and disease be caused by sin when He never sinned?!!! it was then that God truly opened my eyes to the truth that He is the One who allows/uses sickness and disease to come on His children as opportunity to grow in faith and trust in Him alone.

I had an "aha moment" as well. God is faithful. He has allowed this for the greater good, and saving of many lives.

Heidi
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Kent on August 11, 2008, 11:20:23 AM: Ray, you are a God-sent blessing, to me and to everyone else. I mean it.

I look forward to meeting you one day, to thank you in person.
Kent
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: Jackie Lee on August 12, 2008, 12:59:44 AM: Quote from: pylady on August 08, 2008, 10:14:27 PM
It is difficult to think right now after such shocking news. But the comments of all of you serve to remind me that all is in God's hands. We must trust in Him with all our hearts to make all work out for good.

He has given us a glimpse of the prize we will receive if we but endure. This is one of the more difficult moments to endure. Please help us trust in you Lord. And please keep our beloved brother, L Ray Smith, in your loving care.

Cindy
I agree with all the posts on this thread especially the above post by Cindy!
Title: Re: Ray's Cancer
Post by: sansmile on August 12, 2008, 05:10:03 PM: This is so hard to take in. We all know that we dont understand Gods ways at times and this is one of them. My heart weeps for Ray and his family and they all are in our prayers.
Sandie