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Can anyone please help me? Ray often quotes Strong's Dictionary with the page number in brackets. I have a Strong's Concordance but the page numbers do not correspond with the relevant page numbers that Ray would quote. Is there a way to get this in electronic format or do I need to get a hard copy? Thank you in advance for any help.
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Friend Kenneth,
The numbers in brackets that you mention may be "Strong's Numbers" for each word rather than page numbers where a word is found. Please check a resource guide to using the Exhaustive Strong's Concordance for further help in your searches.
Regards, Indiana Bob
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Indiana Bob I've got this from Ray's material "God judges the world in a pond." : "And the word limen means "a harbor-haven, the fair havens" ( Strong's Greek Dictionary, p. 151)."
My Strong's Greek Dictionary at the back of my Strong's Concordance does not correspond to the pg numbers that Ray gives as with the above quote.
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This also from Ray's material :"And He [Jesus] is the propitiation [Greek: hilasmos, signifies "an expiation, a means whereby sin is COVERED and remitted" Strong', p. 121] "
My Strong's Concordance has only this for Strong's #G2434 hilasmos; atonement, i.e. (concretely) an expiator: propitiation. "
Mine does not have what Ray has quoted from Strong's # 2434 [ "an expiation, a means wherby sin is COVERED and remitted."]
I'm beginning to think that maybe there are editions for Strong's Concordance and I have probably got an edition. Also my Greek Dictionary does not correspond to Ray's quote of pg numbers 121. Maybe I'm missing something here.
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Hi Kenneth,
I have a Strong's in print form and have the word limen on page 151, bottom of third column. Perhaps I can direct you to what you are seeking or help to find a resource on line that you could download.
What is your actual question about the lake of spiritual fire that purifies each of us?
More later, Indiana bob
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IMO just get e-Sword - Find the passage in "KJV+" and click on the Strongs marker for any King James Version word.
https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,4470.0.html (https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,4470.0.html)
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Indiana bob I do not have a question about any of Ray's material. I just want to be able to look up the relevant page numbers that Ray often quotes in his material. could you please point me in the right direction? I need to purchase the same Strong's Greek Dictionary that you are using. Does it have Greek and Hebrew or just Greek? Can I purchase it from amazon? Thank you for your help.
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Hi Kenneth,
I have the New Strong's Expanded Exhaustive Concordance, red-letter edition, copyright 2001, published by Thomas Nelson publishers. It was priced at $29.00 when I bought it. It is complete with all Hebrew and Greek dictionaries and references.
Amazon address is:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=New+Strong%27s+Expanded+Exhaustive+Concordance%2C+red-letter+edition
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Hi Kenneth,
The various publishers no doubt makes a difference, I have a 1981 Abingdon hardcopy that seems to match the one you have mentioned.
Joel
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Thank you all for the help and for pointing me in the right direction. Appreciate it.
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I am elated. My Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible by Thomas Nelson has just arrived. I have a "Hendrickson Publishers" and it differs from "Thomas Nelson."
My conclusion is to rather get the "Thomas Nelson " edition.
For example from "Hendrickson Publishers" has this for #G3040 limen apparently a primary word; a harbour : Compare G 2568. (Thats it???)
Now this from Thomas Nelson #G3040 limen apparently a primary word; a harbour: haven; THE FAIR HAVENS +2570 {1X }
THIS IS A PLACE CALLED "FAIR HAVEN" ACTS 27:8,12 SEE: BAGD 475A; THAYER 378C. (All caps are missing from Hendrickson.)
As can be seen from the above that there are a lot of missing information with the "Hendrickson Publishers." of Strong's.
Who gives anyone the right to tamper with another man's work, without their permission?