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Title: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 08, 2012, 09:30:15 PM
Hello Forum,

Back in February I posted information about injuring my Quadriceps Tendon and possibly on e of my knee ligaments. After trying some of the Home Help remedies that helped some, now I'm forced to explore the Orthodox way. I don't especially like using Orthodoxy, but when it comes to fixing & mending Bones, Tendons, Ligaments and the like, they are fairly successful. Hippocrates the ancient Greek Physician was actually a Chiropractor in the modern sense. The Medical Profession in the area of disease related issues have much left to be desired, but fixing & mending broken parts, they have much success.

I've prayed about this issue recently, especially asking God to remove fear from my Heart and give Me courage. Fear is debilitating and causes many other problems, so, I don't like having it. Having no Medical coverage doesn't help, if I had medical coverage back in February, it would have been a no brainer caused choice of getting immediate help, but I tried to "wing it" and for the past three weeks my leg is getting worse in that areas of my leg that weren't bothering me, are now doing so.

Wondering what would happen if my Car broke down somewhere with this bad leg and how could I walk anywhere to get help if my cell phone had no signal or having to push the car off the road, etc. Well, it happened Friday night at Midnight on the way home from work. Got a hold of Triple A, My wife and was able to push the Car to the left into a field off the road without jumping back into the car, too dangerous with my leg. Got it to roll to the left from the stop sign I broke down next to and when it was off the road, was able to turn the steering wheel to the right, so it would stop, all without risking jumping into the car while it rolled. Was afraid my leg couldn't handle the momentum of the roll while jumping back in, something Us Guys have tried in the past, one time or another.

After that experience, coupled with my leg getting worse, I came to the conclusion that, all of this is ridiculous, IE- attempting to continue working at my semi sedentary Job and performing other "get by" minimal tasks. Figured, I better get help, before I'm completely crippled at 55 years old.

Today, I went to the Doctor and She seemed alittle on the aggressive side(no health insurance), but they got their money, but after the examination, She agreed with my amateur assessment that it was probably some degree of tear of the Quadriceps's Tendon and that my Kneecap, Cartilage and lower leg was probably uninsured, but was being indirectly affected by having to compensate for my injury. My good leg is being affected too. Of course She ordered an MRI in order to verify her Theory and that's scheduled Tomorrow for $500.00 which is the least expensive in the area for those people labeled as "Self Pay." Apparently, a self pay individual can pick and choose where they prefer to go and how they go about things in this monotony of medical steps. My Dad says, " You have to play the game," Well, no ****. Of course, I didn't tell Him that,  ;D.

Anyway, anyone have any advice for those without Medical Coverage, feel free to let it fly, I'm open to any suggestions. No need to mention God's total Sovereignty part, He already has an open invitation, solicited and Unsolicited, Solicited from Me and Unsolicited because He's in total control. declaring the beginning and ending of EVERY matter.

Well, time will tell, how this plays out, everyone on this Forum could write a Best Selling Autobiography of their Lives, We'd all be rich, it defies my imagination,  :o,  ;D, somebody's got a sense of Humor besides sarcasm and it ain't Me.
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: gregorydc on October 08, 2012, 10:29:14 PM
Hey Samson
with the help of God I just remembered a name of a "christian" medical "insurance" it is called medishare it is supposed to work like everyone chips in each month and then they just pay your bills when they come due. I don't know how it really works, I keep hearing it advertised on afr.  It may well be what the doctor ordered, you may want to check it out first. I pray this helps you in your time of need. Tell me if it helps or not.
Greg
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 08, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
Hey Samson
with the help of God I just remembered a name of a "christian" medical "insurance" it is called medishare it is supposed to work like everyone chips in each month and then they just pay your bills when they come due. I don't know how it really works, I keep hearing it advertised on afr.  It may well be what the doctor ordered, you may want to check it out first. I pray this helps you in your time of need. Tell me if it helps or not.
Greg


Thanks for the advice, just checked it out, it looks promising, except that only non-smokes may apply, I know, shouldn't smoke, was trying to quit, now I'm more nervous than usual.

Thanks, Samson.
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: gregorydc on October 08, 2012, 11:09:42 PM
Hey I just quit smoking myself about 6 or 8 mos ago for the second time!  # 2 is by far the hardest time to quit, but a little advice that seemed to work for me. Go get an almanac and use the "best days to quit bad habits(smoking)" it works. God said he put the moon and stars for signs and times … well I guess it was my time lol. It helped me a bunch + I quit cold turkey, only way to go I way to go I was always told. I quit after 20 years you can do it brother and God will help.
Greg
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 09, 2012, 12:11:44 AM
Hey I just quit smoking myself about 6 or 8 mos ago for the second time!  # 2 is by far the hardest time to quit, but a little advice that seemed to work for me. Go get an almanac and use the "best days to quit bad habits(smoking)" it works. God said he put the moon and stars for signs and times … well I guess it was my time lol. It helped me a bunch + I quit cold turkey, only way to go I way to go I was always told. I quit after 20 years you can do it brother and God will help.
Greg


Hey Greg,

A Logical "lets fix it" Male like Me. Have you had problems with Women too, Well, at least in the past, only kidding with you,  ;D, ;).

Actually, I quit smoking twice before, for seven years each time. I seemed to go in seven year cycles, at least historically. 1) Began smoking at 18 in 1975, quit at 25 in 1982; 2) started smoking again in 1989, quit in 1996; 3) started smoking again in late 2003 and still doing it as of 2012, that's nine years later.

Also, checked on-line as to what are "Natural" methods to quit smoking and there were two choices: 1) Cold Turkey or 2) Reduction method, ie- As an example, smoking 20 cigarettes for three days and reducing to 18 and after a few days, another similar reduction. They suggest Cold Turkey for those that recently started smoking and the reduction metod for those that have smoked a long time like Me.

However, I'll check it out, what have I got to lose. Apparently, I'm not a "Christian" if I smoke according to that Christian Medical Coverage Site. Since I'm Lost and reprobate, maybe they can save & redeem Me with their Free Will efforts,  ;).

Thanks, Samson.
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: acomplishedartis on October 09, 2012, 03:04:37 AM
Well, time will tell, how this plays out, everyone on this Forum could write a Best Selling Autobiography of their Lives,

Ha, I think that's true. God is the best life writer. Life was usually bored and monoty, confused and often sad, until God started showing in us the script, and until we start living to overcome the world and our carnal nature, then things started to get interesting,  more challenging, with more confidence, and with time the end starts getting clearer.

But not interested on writing any okay-selling Autobiography, because there is no time for it, I haven't good enough grammar, I would not feel good on selling something too personal and it would be a great risk for my ego. Too much competence, lack of motivation to simply entertain people, etc, etc...

Samson, I wish you the best on this trial, if it helps of something, probably the more I can do for you is ask God to give you courage.

I don't know if this could help, but now days transportation is not that expensive, have you consider to get the treatment in another country? Of course you would have to find a good doctor first... A lot of people travel for medical issues.

Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: ez2u on October 09, 2012, 12:42:31 PM
Sam  thank you for your advice on the other post and i can clearly see why you said what you did.  This knee injury is quite a problem i will kept you in my prayers I know the Lord will help us He always does but His ways are not are ways and I try not to make it harder on myself in spite of my flesh delusions
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 10, 2012, 09:47:45 PM
Update Status on right leg,

Had Doctor's appointment on Monday and She ordered an MRI(Magnetic Resonance Imaging) Test for Tuesday, She called Me back Today about an hour ago with the results. She was surprised I can even walk after reviewing the results of the Radiologist. Below is a list of what's wrong with my right leg/knee.

1) significant partial tear of the Anterior Cruciate Ligament, tear related to the thickness of it.

2) The Meniscus Pad, Tear of Medial Meniscus, inside part.

3) Arthritis, early stages located on the Tibia Bone(lower leg)

4) Softening of the Cartilage of Kneecap(Patella).

Essentially, what that all means is that I'll be out of commission for awhile. Pray for God to give Me courage and remove fear from my Mind and to not worry about what might happen.

Thanks, Samson.
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Marky Mark on October 11, 2012, 03:18:43 PM
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I lied to them about a number of things.

Message me if you want and I'll tell you more specifics.

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I was eligible for it because I stuck my story of those 3 things I listed in the previous post.


I know how, but I don't know when bt-forums became such a hotbed of so much carnal influence in recent and past months.When I joined these forums it was a place of spiritual sanctuary and retreat with others of the same like mindedness,that being,in Spirit and Truth.

However, now it seems of late that the direction of this ship is way off course. When one is given advice on how to lie in order to get what one thinks he deserves,well, its time to move on. My hope is that all of the people who participate in these forums can come to a place in their lives where our Lord and Savior,Jesus the Christ has total rule and authority over ones heart and mind. Its not easy to conform and overcome[Lord knows,I am a work in progress], but with Christ in you ,all things are possible.

I would like to thank those [you know who you are] who have helped me along the way in this spiritual journey...for that... I am ever so grateful.

Peace to you all and God Bless.   :)


Marky Mark
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Craig on October 11, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
Ladies and Gents I need to comment on Marky's post.  I also ask him to reconsider quitting, but if you still want to then send me a pm and I will remove your account. Good members with heavy anchors are a plus to the forum.

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However, now it seems of late that the direction of this ship is way off course. When one is given advice on how to lie in order to get what one thinks he deserves,well, its time to move on

I want everyone to know the moderators all have jobs and families and other commitments other than this forum.  It is very likely and probable none of us saw the post that Marky commented on. I know I glanced at the thread Samson started yesterday and did not see the latest posts on the subject until now. If a moderator had saw it would have been removed.  If anyone see's a post that you feel should be looked at by a moderator then please PM one/all of us to review it. Also, all of us are carnal and at different places in our journey, would it be better to help others where they fail than to just quit?

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I know how, but I don't know when bt-forums became such a hotbed of so much carnal influence in recent and past months.

I would also like for members to PM any concerns such as this.  I'm not aware that we have became "such a hotbed of carnal influence" but if someone sees that then please bring it to our attention.  The members of this forum are far, far, far away from being perfect and carnality influences all of us but I like to think the way the forum is moderated makes that less so than other forums on the internet.  Lack of patience and long suffering toward others here is also a carnal influence. The biggest thing I have learned and suffered in all my years of moderating the forum it is to have patience and understanding for  the members and I still have a long, long way to go.

Craig
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: arion on October 11, 2012, 04:52:52 PM

However, now it seems of late that the direction of this ship is way off course. When one is given advice on how to lie in order to get what one thinks he deserves,well, its time to move on.

I think your way off base here Marky and it smacks a little of spiritual elitism.  The leadership of BT has not changed [except for the passing of Ray of course] and their world view has not changed.  You have all kinds of people coming here as members.  Some are just beginning to wake up to some of the deeper truths of God and they need the more seasoned members to respectfully challenge them when they show that they are thinking with their carnal mind.  Are any of us past that stage when we never slip up?  I think not.  Tis true that people are not supposed to join the forum until they find themselves in agreement with the teachings and want to discuss what they are learning.  I read the forum as a guest for a few years before I ever thought of joining as I didn't feel that I had anything worth sharing.  But there are folks that read for awhile and join the group and still are not grounded.  I would agree with you that if the mods and majority of the members are going astray it might be time to leave.  I don't think that is the case.....do you?

Doug
Title: Re: Udate on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 11, 2012, 09:20:05 PM
Ladies and Gents I need to comment on Marky's post.  I also ask him to reconsider quitting, but if you still want to then send me a pm and I will remove your account. Good members with heavy anchors are a plus to the forum.

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However, now it seems of late that the direction of this ship is way off course. When one is given advice on how to lie in order to get what one thinks he deserves,well, its time to move on

I want everyone to know the moderators all have jobs and families and other commitments other than this forum.  It is very likely and probable none of us saw the post that Marky commented on. I know I glanced at the thread Samson started yesterday and did not see the latest posts on the subject until now. If a moderator had saw it would have been removed.  If anyone see's a post that you feel should be looked at by a moderator then please PM one/all of us to review it. Also, all of us are carnal and at different places in our journey, would it be better to help others where they fail than to just quit?

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I know how, but I don't know when bt-forums became such a hotbed of so much carnal influence in recent and past months.

I would also like for members to PM any concerns such as this.  I'm not aware that we have became "such a hotbed of carnal influence" but if someone sees that then please bring it to our attention.  The members of this forum are far, far, far away from being perfect and carnality influences all of us but I like to think the way the forum is moderated makes that less so than other forums on the internet.  Lack of patience and long suffering toward others here is also a carnal influence. The biggest thing I have learned and suffered in all my years of moderating the forum it is to have patience and understanding for  the members and I still have a long, long way to go.

Craig


Craig,

I don't think Foxx was promoting dishonesty and insisting it was or is okay to deceive the Medical Establishment. However, Mark is technically and spiritually right that none of us should use dishonesty or deception because Life is unjust & unfair.

Interestingly, in regards to My injury that initially occurred on Feb. 4, 2012, I have and still am trying to follow through with this " Experience of Evil," " the right way." The irony in all of this, I'm not sure exactly what the "right way is," ie- trying to get help from the medical establishment. Already, I've been labeled as a "self pay" person because I don't have Health Coverage and been turned away. So, instead of attempting to get help for the entire 100 yards, ie- Money required for all aspects of Surgery and the related expenses that might be required, I decided to pay for the affordable preliminary things that will enable Me to have a plan by a Orthopedic Specialist as to what needs to be done and the various options I can choose. In other words, I've been paying for everything so far: 1) initial Dr. visit with MD; 2) MRI, paid in full by Me and Tomorrow, number 3, the Orthopedic Specialist.

This way, He(The Specialist) will fill out my NJ Temporary Disability Papers, write a more specific type of documentation for how long I won't be able to work and what my specific options could be to have my Leg repaired, probably surgically, but maybe non-surgically.

I have found or learned when you call different Agencies or Doctors and immediately say you don't have medical insurance without clarifying yourself, that you are able to pay some things, at least at the preliminary level, a red flag goes up. So, I called this Orthopedic group this afternoon and told the receptionist or secretary not to succumb to a red flag and easily dismiss Me, but to hear Me out and the response was pleasant & helpful. It seems that these medical people will immediately stereotype most people when they hear the phrase: " No medical coverage," because so many aren't paying their medical bills, because they don't have medical coverage & are unable to and it's a chronic problem. It's like one group of Demons battling another group of Demons, because both groups are vicious and angry at each other.

Interestingly enough, I could have chosen to be taken by an Ambulance the night this happened and they would have fully treated Me, but instead I choose to wait and see if it would get better using Home & alternative methods, because I didn't want to get in financial debt, owing money, being unable to pay my rent, electric bill, child support and everything else. I have enough Money in the Bank to pay these things for some time. As a matter of fact, I called my Landlord that I want to pay the rent for the next 6 months in advance. The reason for this is because I was always told that you have to pay your rent first, before everything else. My Dad has offered to financially assist Me, but I don't want to squander His money and take too much advantage of an 89 year old Man. I don't know if it's considered dishonest to pay bills in other areas, necessary bills, not recreational, instead of having too much money on hand that would get fully absorbed by the cost of a surgery.

My Hyundai Tiburon that broke down on Friday night on my way home from work, I mentioned this in my initial post, needs repair, probably not major, but I want that paid for before the Medical profession would tap into my resources. The bottom line is that I need to prioritize my finances. So far, I've received much rejection towards getting assistance, so that's why I changed my approach. If I was in jail, I'd get medical care and my leg fixed, if I was an illegal Alien, I'd get my leg fixed, etc. Also, if I was already on permanent Disability, I'd get my leg fixed. The Medical world doesn't know about my Dad maybe helping and I ain't telling them. So far, they've proved to Me, they just want "The Money." Tomorrow, they will get their $200.00 for their Orthopedic visit, so they don't have a problem, yet. I'm not blaming them, it's a vicious cycle with the medical travesty in this Country. Greedy Doctors plus people taking advantage of their insurance. People used to go to the Doctor when absolutely necessary, not for every stupid little thing. They did what they could at home and if there was no other alternatives, then they sought medical help. People also abuse the system by suing for everything imaginable or unimaginable which drains resources.

None of the above implies that I plan to cheat the system, but basic necessities come first.

Carry on, Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Foxx on October 12, 2012, 03:33:25 AM
Wow, okay I think I unintentionally stirred up a hornets nest of sorts. No Marky Mark I am not promoting dishonesty. I was living in pain for many months and this was a way to fix my leg and get back to my profession. I believe God provided a means for me to get healed. God can use many things to help a person. Although I do not owe you an explanation. I sympathize with Samson's troubles and I was offering my advice because I know what it is like to be in that situation.

If anything I said caused tension here then I apologize. And Craig is right, we aren't perfect. And to assume we must be to help others, well that's just silly...at any rate Samson I truly hope that everything works out. I know how it feels to have a busted knee, I really hope you can get it fixed quickly!

And let me add, Mark, of all the carnality in the world I doubt using legal means to acquire assistance from the very government that is supposed to help its citizens is the definition of "carnal". Reminds me of a verse:

Matt 23:24 ye blind guides who strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.:
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 12, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
Hi Forum,

An update & other related issues from this thread. In regards to Foxx's removed Post and His mentioning about what He needed to do in order to "play the game" and get professional medical help by saying His injury happened that day and not a Month earlier, I'm not saying that was okay, but I understand why He did it. As an illustration, I was injured on 2/4/12 and could have had my wife call 911 and go to the Hospital and been treated, because, ethically they would have been obliged to treat Me. However, I knew that I wouldn't be able to pay for this and fulfill my other financial obligations, etc, etc, etc, without listing them. That's why, currently, I've encountered some difficulty with the medical World due to the fact I'm a "Self Pay" individual. Self Pay is a new label or stigma placed upon people. You don't need referrals, because you don't have an insurance companies rules and you need to do some of your own leg work too. Anyway, I'm a big boy, 55 years old, as I explained to Foxx in a Pm and I wasn't deliberately planning to Lie or deceive anyone. That's my plan & motive, just like Peter had planned not to deny He knew Christ, He had the right intentions & motive, but He fell short & failed in His claim as Jesus said He would.

Some of the Foundational things We are taught at Bible Truths through Ray is that None Us have Free Will and that God is 100% total Sovereign. God is Sovereign & The Myth of Free Will are the top two teachings We've learned, everything else is contingent upon these two main teachings; IE- no Eternal Punishment of any kind; everyone eventually being saved, Resurrection from the dead for everyone to Life or Righteousness through Judgement, Chosen Elect ruling as Kings & Priests with Christ, etc, etc. And since every choice We make is the only possible choice We could have made under any particular circumstances and the fact is that God had planned in the past what choice We are going to make and the choices We've made in the present and the choices We will make in the future, then whatever choice we make has to happen exactly how & why We make it, it couldn't be any other way. I don't presume that I'm of the Chosen Elect and that Sin doesn't have Dominion over Me, nor have I ever thought that I was. Some here might believe they are and that they wouldn't commit a Dishonesty Act under any type of Stress or pressure, but the reality is that We don't know what choice We are going to make under extreme pressure circumstances until they happen. I don't think anyone is going to convince Me of what they think they will choose to do under extreme pressure.

I went to an Orthopedic Specialist Today, Dr. Friedman and they have a Surgical Center where they perform all their surgeries and He's attempting to work with Me on the Fee's at a reduced rate. It turns out that I was right after all, it was My Quadriceps Tendon that's torn, the other issues are from the past, IE- Anterior Cruciate Ligament, Medial Meniscus Tear(s). He said He believes my Old injuries healed in an awkward way to compensate. In other words, the Body will repair itself naturally, but has to adapt to correct the faults in a way that's not original. He said that my Quadriceps rupture is the main issue and it's repair is vital, otherwise I will become permanently disabled. The other old issues aren't too important and my leg will be the way it was before my injury on 2/4/12. I won't be dunking Basketballs or jumping high hurdles, but I should be able to do the regular things that I used to do. Well, that's the story.

Kind Regards, Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: onelovedread on October 13, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
God be with you, My brothr Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 13, 2012, 08:18:11 PM
God be with you, My brothr Samson.


Thanks John Chris, just realized a few minutes ago that your OneLoveDread or you used to be called that, that shows how much I haven't been paying attention lately,  ;D.

Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: cjwood on October 13, 2012, 11:54:25 PM
the Lord will provide.  always.  He is faithful. 

disabilities suck.  but they too are necessary for many brothers and sisters in Christ.  you have worked for most of your life probably by now brad.  look further into s.s. disability for your particular state.  this too is a humbling experience.  one i am walking.  but, He is faithful.  always.

claudia
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Duane on October 14, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
Our prayers are with you and Kathy, Samson.  You have been a long-time B-T'er and I find your open-ness and honesty refreshing.  You are also posting on the correct venue--something I mess up with sometimes.  I think the criticism of the FORUM and moderators was harsh.  We. B-T'ers are a close family and we get ostracized by the "world and 'christian' friends" often enough without undo criticism of members or moderators!

God be with you, Samson and all our "family" in need whether it be medical or personal demons/challenges.  And God BLESS the VOLUNTEER MODERATORS who keep us all on track, as well as spiritually guided with their research and answering questions from "new-bies" and us old
contributors who still entertain Bible questions.  I will ever be grateful for Kat, Dennis and all others, who answered numerous questions for me on the way to the TRUTH.  (I will ALWAYS treasure a few personal answers from RAY, himself!)
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: cjwood on October 15, 2012, 02:28:03 AM
brad, even if you get your torn quad tendon repaired, you may still qualify for s.s. disability on a short-term level.  it may be worth checking into, especially since you won't be able to do the job you have been doing for awhile.  you may be compensated in some monetary way while you are on the mend. 

just remember that you may not be dunking basketballs, or doing high hurdles physically, but you are doing them spiritually for sure.  yoked to Christ we can all walk evenly, not worrying about the holes in the ground along the way.  awesome.

claudia
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 15, 2012, 12:39:57 PM
brad, even if you get your torn quad tendon repaired, you may still qualify for s.s. disability on a short-term level.  it may be worth checking into, especially since you won't be able to do the job you have been doing for awhile.  you may be compensated in some monetary way while you are on the mend. 

just remember that you may not be dunking basketballs, or doing high hurdles physically, but you are doing them spiritually for sure.  yoked to Christ we can all walk evenly, not worrying about the holes in the ground along the way.  awesome.

claudia


Thanks Claudia,

Spiritually, I have much left to be desired, all I can do is pray for The Father's Will be done, but as Ray said, You still have to Pray and even that's caused by God, the desire to pray, that is.

At this time, I'm "going" to get NJ Temporary Disability which lasts for six months, everybody pays into it, it's deducted on a regular basis from the pay check. Rehabilitation, if everything goes okay, isn't supposed to take too long. I guess that Dr. Friedman will know for sure after cutting my knee open, MRI or not. Don't like the idea of being put under, but have to pray about that too, God's Will & Plan will & is being done, no doubt about that.

Thanks for your concern & suggestion, Brad.

P.S. I really don't know for sure, what the Hell I'm doing, no pun intended,  ;).
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: onelovedread on October 15, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
For the last 2 years I've struggled with back problems which I believe have been diagnosed as herniated disks. My left side leg is pretty weak and I have difficulty climbing stairs.
After consulting with 3 doctors and 2 chiropractors, my condition is no better and I am using a cane and limping around.
Surgery would definitely not be an option for me.
I've almost totally decided in my mind to start a course of acupuncture treatments.
My sister has had success with it for a similar ailment.
Perhaps this is an option some of my disabled friends may want to explore.
At any rate, I volunteer to be the test case and will keep you guys updated on my progress:)
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Craig on October 15, 2012, 02:31:41 PM
I had the same back problems for 20 years, down the leg/lower back.  I tried everything including acupuncture. Acupuncture worked some but the result was only temporary.  Thank God I did not opt for surgery.  My problem was solved when I moved my wallet out of my hip pocket, that and God deciding to cure me of that problem.  2 months later my back felt as good as when I was a 20 year old and nearly 4 years later still going strong.

Craig
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 15, 2012, 04:39:43 PM
I had the same back problems for 20 years, down the leg/lower back.  I tried everything including acupuncture. Acupuncture worked some but the result was only temporary.  Thank God I did not opt for surgery.  My problem was solved when I moved my wallet out of my hip pocket, that and God deciding to cure me of that problem.  2 months later my back felt as good as when I was a 20 year old and nearly 4 years later still going strong.

Craig


Hey Craig,

It definitely helps having your wallet in the front pocket & not the back one, I stopped putting my wallet in the back pocket about two years ago. Somebody had suggested that it was bad for your back, especially when doing allot of driving, I noticed a big difference too when I stopped having it in the back pocket, haven't had a problem since. I can be thankful to God my back seems to be doing well at this time,  ;D.

Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: HoneyLamb56 on October 16, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
Samson:  i've added u to my prayer list

Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 16, 2012, 02:37:08 PM
Our prayers are with you and Kathy, Samson.  You have been a long-time B-T'er and I find your open-ness and honesty refreshing.  You are also posting on the correct venue--something I mess up with sometimes.  I think the criticism of the FORUM and moderators was harsh.  We. B-T'ers are a close family and we get ostracized by the "world and 'christian' friends" often enough without undo criticism of members or moderators!

God be with you, Samson and all our "family" in need whether it be medical or personal demons/challenges.  And God BLESS the VOLUNTEER MODERATORS who keep us all on track, as well as spiritually guided with their research and answering questions from "new-bies" and us old
contributors who still entertain Bible questions.  I will ever be grateful for Kat, Dennis and all others, who answered numerous questions for me on the way to the TRUTH.  (I will ALWAYS treasure a few personal answers from RAY, himself!)


Thanks Duane, Glad your back on board, looks like I get to experience a little bit of your world, the ambulating difficulties, I mean. I would be lying if I told you I wasn't scared about this unknown territory, always enjoyed the fact that My legs were my strong suit and not too long ago, here I get at least a taste of a Handicapped Person's World. My Dr. said there are a few old injuries in that Knee area that healed in an unusual, but not original way and He doesn't believe it would benefit Me to tamper with them, IE- The Anterior Cruciate Ligament & The Medial Meniscus, but the repair of My Quadriceps Tendon is of the utmost importance, if I don't want to end up permanently Disabled. Trying to keep my Mind occupied, so I don't get too nervous about all this and drive myself more "Nuts" than I already am.

Any suggestions or insights are welcome, your much experienced in this area, what have I got to lose.

Kind Regards, Samson.


Samson:  i've added u to my prayer list




Thankyou Honeylamb, much appreciated, can use all the prayers people are willing to give, God declares the End and The Beginning of Every Matter, so will have to wait see what He has in store for Me.

Kind Regards, Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: acomplishedartis on October 17, 2012, 06:55:16 AM

Samson

I will pray for you as well.


Do you enjoy practicing some type of art? maybe some writing?  I have seen you posting around for a while and I believe that would enjoy reading whatever that you would decide to write about.

Hope all gets better for you.
sincerely

Moises
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on October 21, 2012, 09:12:12 PM
Thank you to all those who were able to respond,

Aside from some Forum Members, My Dad whose been an Ace throughout this Trial and My Wife, I don't even get a Phone call from My Siblings, My Oldest Daughter and My In-Laws. I've limped around for the last eight Months, going to work, mowing the lawn, doing housework and many other tasks, not asking for anyone's assistance, but it would have been appreciated if my Relatives would have sacrificed a simple 5 minute Phone Call. When My Father-In-Law broke His Tibia & Fibia two days after my injury, that following Wednesday, I went to visit Him in the Hospital, He has other issues, on blood Thinners, a severe Heart condition, etc and I continued to call Him for several Months thereafter and He never initiated a call to see how I am.

I feel & believe that I could have had the "attitude," Why go to work after I injured myself last February, just go to the Hospital and let Society ultimately pay for it, but didn't want to owe money and financially burden anyone.

On a positive note, an individual on the Forum sent Me a PM message asking if they could be of any assistance in any possible way, an individual that I hardly communicate with, offering help, but I told the individual that their concern and acknowledgement meant allot and was most important.

My Surgery is on Thursday & I hope it's God's Will that I can rehab adequately to get back to work before my Family Medical Leave Act expires in 12 Weeks, so I don't lose my Job, which legally they can do. Well, will let you Guys know about my surgical outcome.

Kind Regards, Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: gregorydc on October 21, 2012, 10:21:16 PM
Hang in there brother in Gods time, this too shall pass. With surgery your knee will be better and your job easier. I pray God will speed your recovery and healing. With love I ask God these blessings upon you. Please do keep us posted friend.
Greg
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: NARROWAY on October 22, 2012, 11:24:55 AM
Hi Samson,  I am praying for you as well.  Praying your knee will end up as good as new, you find favor with keeping your job and in the mean time all your needs are met in Jesus Christ.

Also, in my experience in life, in regards to your father in law, when you're a blessing to someone, you may not receive back from them but God will use someone else to return the blessing.  We just have to pray our heart is right when we go out of our way for others, not looking for anything in return.  Sometimes it doesn't come from the person you think it should, love them anyway.  The Lord may be using your father in law and family to show you whats in your heart.  He does that a lot with me and I am grateful.  I hope I'm making spiritual sense.  Forgive me if I'm not.  I'm still growing too thank God.

Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: ez2u on October 30, 2012, 02:27:30 PM
well Samson you are certain care about here and a lot of people are praying for you I guess this is your family ;D. I have had back problems for a while too and know what a mess that is.   its seems a lot of people right now have back problems in this country   wonder why?  We are struggling in this country  Why?  I believe our attachment are pulling us down.  When  I was young  (yes another when i was young story, please bare with me)  my mother had to support 6 young children and she walked 4 miles each way up north.  That means in all weather.  to work as a waitress she would get  back home and cook for us and do what she could to make our lives continue.  Never once did i hear her even talk about her struggles.  Now I am amazed!!!  so i asked her why she didn't complain, at the least.  This was her reply.  She never thought about it  She had a job to do and she just did it.  Did we lose something along the way?
I am guilty, sad to say.  I think we live in a time of gotta have and entitle to.  Self gratification so deeply rooted in our souls.  We were brain washed with the media for over 60 years.  I know the people on this forum want better  they want Jesus, the Savior of our souls.  I love you all for that! 
!
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Duane on October 31, 2012, 11:33:25 PM
Samson--I am still praying for your recovery!---Duane
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Gabriel on November 01, 2012, 04:10:28 PM
You are always in my prayers buddy!  :)
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on December 05, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
Hi Forum,

Just some information updating my recovery phase from Quadriceps Tendon reconstruction/reattachment. Tomorrow, it will be six weeks since my surgery. I saw Dr. Friedman last Wednesday and He said that my progress was better than He expected. At this time, I'm able to do 6-10 straight leg raises, can get my knee to bend about 60-65 degrees, my goal is 90 degree's. For my at home personal therapy, I perform the following movements: 1) Ankle Pumps; 2) Static Contractions of the Quad Muscles; 3) straight leg lifts; 4) Heel slides and 5) Hip Abductors. All of these exercises can be performed while lying in my Bed.

Also, I use my Portable Ultra sound Machine twice a Day for 15 minutes and My Inferno wrap device that sends Electromagnetic Waves into a Thigh twice a day for 25 minutes. I still have to wear a fully locked Orthopedic Brace while ambulating with the exception of shower time and while sleeping. Up until last Wednesday, I had to wear the Brace while sleeping too.

I am able to do all of the Domestic Chores around the house, so at least Pam doesn't have the added stress of carrying an extra burden beyond going to work. I had Pam bring a set of 25 pound dumbells from the Basement, so I can do some Seated dumbell exercises for the Upper Body. The hardest of most difficult aspect of my recovery at this stage of the game is being a prisoner in my own Apartment. Aside from leaving this Apartment three times to see the Dr, I only left one other time, this past Sunday to see the Movie Breaking Dawn 2 with Pam. so, in 6 weeks, I've only left my Apartment 4 times, it's a little maddening, but I've learned to adjust to my fate with the prospect that when I see Dr. Friedman on 12/26/12, My leg will be able to bend to 90 degree's. Dr. Friedman believes that I should be able to attain my goal of 90 degree's and be cleared to return to work.

I pray to God that if my leg returns close to normal function and that I show a great appreciation for having it's full use and not complain about doing all the building work and cleanup deeming other Tenants as lazy, but just be happy to be able to walk regular again.

Kind Regards, Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Rhys 🕊 on December 06, 2012, 02:29:05 AM
Hi. I hope your leg recovers soon and I enjoy reading your posts. Praying for you for a speedy recovery. All the best and God bless you.  ;)

Rhys
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Gina on December 08, 2012, 12:28:50 AM
Thanks for the update Samson.  I pray you make a full recovery. God bless you and Pam, too. :)
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on December 08, 2012, 03:26:07 AM
Hi. I hope your leg recovers soon and I enjoy reading your posts. Praying for you for a speedy recovery. All the best and God bless you.  ;)

Rhys

Thanks for the update Samson.  I pray you make a full recovery. God bless you and Pam, too. :)


Thanks Gina & Rhys,

Your prayers & concerns are much appreciated. During all of this time, My good leg is taking a beating, have to keep a special eye out for that. Let Me assure you that all of this is a very humbling experience, hope it's God's plan that I can maneuver around again, certainly don't like any of this, everybody take a moment to meditate on how fortunate it is to walk around without difficulty and be real thankful. It's easier to feel bad for those confined to Wheel chairs or even worse, those poor Guys and Gals.

Thanks again, Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Gina on December 08, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
That I can walk around without assistance (for the time being because Lord knows what could happen to me tomorrow!) is at the forefront of my mind quite often.  At the age of 42, my mother had a major stroke (she had a blood clot the size of the small grapefruit on the right side of her brain -- the screams that used to come from  her still sadden me, and horrify me to this day if I meditate on it).  She became comatose and when she woke, she was pretty much a vegetable and lived in a state run nursing home (in Maryland -- there was no a/c and she suffered many things not the least of which was her inability to get so much as a glass of water from the "nurses" and "doctors" who were there) for the rest of her life where she died.  Her laying there in that bed for close to the last 7 years of her life, unable to escape or get up or walk and barely talk but being fully aware of all that was going on around her but being unable to do anything about it, is an image and a memory that has been engrained in my brain since I was 10 and will never leave my mind.  I feel for you Samson.  I pray for your full and complete recovery.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Rhys 🕊 on December 09, 2012, 03:07:22 AM
I can sympathise to a degree with you as I hurt my leg a few weeks ago and had to crawl on the floor for the first couple of days. When I could walk I found my other leg like you said was getting bit of a beating. It amazes me that we often take these things for granted I know I did as never hurt me leg before to this degree. Even in my work I have been finding it very frustrating as everything takes longer and of course is more painful. I too echo your comment below:


 everybody take a moment to meditate on how fortunate it is to walk around without difficulty and be real thankful.



Still praying and thinking of you.

God bless

Rhys
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Rhys 🕊 on December 09, 2012, 03:13:17 AM
That I can walk around without assistance (for the time being because Lord knows what could happen to me tomorrow!) is at the forefront of my mind quite often.  At the age of 42, my mother had a major stroke (she had a blood clot the size of the small grapefruit on the right side of her brain -- the screams that used to come from  her still sadden me, and horrify me to this day if I meditate on it).  She became comatose and when she woke, she was pretty much a vegetable and lived in a state run nursing home (in Maryland -- there was no a/c and she suffered many things not the least of which was her inability to get so much as a glass of water from the "nurses" and "doctors" who were there) for the rest of her life where she died.  Her laying there in that bed for close to the last 7 years of her life, unable to escape or get up or walk and barely talk but being fully aware of all that was going on around her but being unable to do anything about it, is an image and a memory that has been engrained in my brain since I was 10 and will never leave my mind.  I feel for you Samson.  I pray for your full and complete recovery.

Touching story Gina. God bless you.

Rhys
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: Samson on December 09, 2012, 09:45:22 PM
That I can walk around without assistance (for the time being because Lord knows what could happen to me tomorrow!) is at the forefront of my mind quite often.  At the age of 42, my mother had a major stroke (she had a blood clot the size of the small grapefruit on the right side of her brain -- the screams that used to come from  her still sadden me, and horrify me to this day if I meditate on it).  She became comatose and when she woke, she was pretty much a vegetable and lived in a state run nursing home (in Maryland -- there was no a/c and she suffered many things not the least of which was her inability to get so much as a glass of water from the "nurses" and "doctors" who were there) for the rest of her life where she died.  Her laying there in that bed for close to the last 7 years of her life, unable to escape or get up or walk and barely talk but being fully aware of all that was going on around her but being unable to do anything about it, is an image and a memory that has been engrained in my brain since I was 10 and will never leave my mind.  I feel for you Samson.  I pray for your full and complete recovery.

Sorry She had to endure that horrible ordeal, it's an awful way to end one's Life, the only consolation left to this sad true story is You eventually seeing Her in the Resurrection of the Dead and any progress God deems thereafter. However, I wouldn't want that experience of what happened to Her & You on anyone.

Thanks for sharing, it helps put my mind in proper perspective, Samson.

I can sympathise to a degree with you as I hurt my leg a few weeks ago and had to crawl on the floor for the first couple of days. When I could walk I found my other leg like you said was getting bit of a beating. It amazes me that we often take these things for granted I know I did as never hurt me leg before to this degree. Even in my work I have been finding it very frustrating as everything takes longer and of course is more painful. I too echo your comment below:


 everybody take a moment to meditate on how fortunate it is to walk around without difficulty and be real thankful.



Still praying and thinking of you.

God bless

Rhys


Rhys, I guess you got a good taste of what I'm experiencing, so you understand & have recognition and this is good & beneficial that you shared this. It helps Me not to wallow in any type of self absorbing pity. Get Better soon and be cautious as to how you walk and maneuver, don't want you to experience any setbacks. Samson.
Title: Re: Update on Quadricep/knee Injury
Post by: acomplishedartis on December 10, 2012, 11:49:39 PM

You know, until this day of mine I too, have already experinced much sorrow (mostly just in the mind),   

Samson, thanks for continue to share your experience. I will surely try to take not for granted my long legs and will

keep praying for your recovery, but mostly for peace of mind to you.