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Title: Jesus not abolishing but fulfilling
Post by: Topaz on July 19, 2006, 02:18:53 AM
I know Ray has probably wrote about this, but I have not run across it and would very much like to know.
An explanation of Jesus not coming to abolish the law to to fulfill. 
I am very confused.
If someone can point me in the right direction I would very much appreciate it.
Title: Re: Jesus not abolishing but fulfilling
Post by: Chris R on July 19, 2006, 08:13:17 AM
Hello Topaz

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Peace

Chris R
Title: Re: Jesus not abolishing but fulfilling
Post by: Topaz on July 19, 2006, 03:12:54 PM
Thank you Chris,
I suppose after so much brainwashing that certain 'rituals' need to be performed in order to follow the "Commandments" that were given it takes a GOOD flushing out to be able to understand that my faith and trust are enough.
To know that I do not have to go to a church building (physical), I do not have to go to the alter (physical), etc. 
I had been under the impression that the old testament was a "physical" period and the new testament is a "spiritual" period, but could not seem to turn loose of the "laws and ordinances ? "  I understood that man could not keep the laws that even if one was broken all were broken, but understanding why they were given for us to keep was confusing.  More flushing needed I suppose.
Thank you for your answering of my post.

God be with us
...Topaz
Title: Re: Jesus not abolishing but fulfilling
Post by: Mickyd on July 24, 2006, 12:41:20 AM
For this....you have to look at the meaning of the word fulfil.

ful·fill also ful·fil   Audio pronunciation of "Fulfil" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fl-fl)
tr.v. ful·filled, ful·fill·ing, ful·fills, also ful·fils

   1. To bring into actuality; effect: fulfilled their promises.
   2. To carry out (an order, for example).
   3. To measure up to; satisfy. See Synonyms at perform. See Synonyms at satisfy.
   4. To bring to an end; complete.


The last definition is the one that I believe fits the meaning.
Title: Re: Jesus not abolishing but fulfilling
Post by: sansmile on July 24, 2006, 09:53:39 AM
  That was awesome seeing the meaning of fulfill. It really helps explain the scripture:


              Mat 5:17)  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to FULFILL

The Strongs give this definition;
             
                (G4137)
πληρόω
plēroō
play-ro'-o
From G4134; to make replete, that is, (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.: - accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.


Thanks for that!
Title: Re: Jesus not abolishing but fulfilling
Post by: Topaz on July 24, 2006, 08:31:29 PM
For this....you have to look at the meaning of the word fulfil.

ful·fill also ful·fil   Audio pronunciation of "Fulfil" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fl-fl)
tr.v. ful·filled, ful·fill·ing, ful·fills, also ful·fils

   1. To bring into actuality; effect: fulfilled their promises.
   2. To carry out (an order, for example).
   3. To measure up to; satisfy. See Synonyms at perform. See Synonyms at satisfy.
   4. To bring to an end; complete.


The last definition is the one that I believe fits the meaning.

Great breakdown of that......Although He did all of them I think you may be right in #4 being the answer.
Thanks for you comment.
....God be with us