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I have been studying Ruth and it is such a fascinating book that is a parable with so many levels of revelations.
It ties in to many of the topics that I have been reading on the forum board.
For instance there are always questions on the board about the Fathers's will. We in the earthy flesh are often confused and frustrated when things happen...we often do not want to accept the fact that He is in the One charge of All things.
On the surface this Book seems like a pretty straight forward "Cinderella like " story...but is it?
(Rth 1:1) Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land. And a certain man of Bethlehem-judah went to sojourn in the country of Moab, he, and his wife, and his two sons.
(Rth 1:2) And the name of the man was Elimelech, and the name of his wife Naomi, and the name of his two sons Mahlon and Chilion, Ephrathites of Bethlehem-judah. And they came into the country of Moab, and continued there.
(Rth 1:3) And Elimelech Naomi's husband died; and she was left, and her two sons.
(Rth 1:4) And they took them wives of the women of Moab; the name of the one was Orpah, and the name of the other Ruth: and they dwelled there about ten years.
To start Ruth follows the Book Judges, Samuel probably wrote thus story, it is the introduction of the Davidic line. In Judges it demonstrates the ever increasing failure of man, in spite of all of the intervention and help of God. It ends with them almost wiping out the benjamites after a rather gory incident with a concubine The Book of Ruth is a contrast and it presents the activities of the grace of God, in spite of the failure of a family and ends with a scene of joy and blessing and hope.
The first question unanswered is why did Elimech and Naomi take their two sons , and leave their parcel of land and go to Moab?
What was the "monster job board" back then that beckoned them. They were leaving their home and safety , culture etc and going elsewhere to seek their "fortune". Does this sound like anyone you know?
Then their sons marry into the Moabs, the very people the Law says
Deu 23:3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD forever:
No wonder He calls Israel ....stiff necked.... like us when we left our first love and Israel when they sought after other gods...
But can you see that God has everything planned and he shows this over and over in His Word.
This life thread goes back to Lot
(Gen 19:15) And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
(Gen 19:16) And while he loitered, the men took hold of his hand, and his wife's hand, and the hands of his two daughters, יהוה having compassion on him, and they brought him out and set him outside the city.
After being rescued what was left of the family thought all were gone and decided to reenact the Garden ruke and go forth and multiply.... and they did and occupied the land.
Gen 19:37 And the firstborn bore a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day
430 years later when Moses comes back into the promised land :
(Deu 2:9) And the LORD said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession.
Num 21:29 Woe to thee, Moab! thou art undone, O people of Chemosh: he hath given his sons that escaped, and his daughters, into captivity unto Sihon king of the Amorites. He is not going to let them go on much longer, their god Chemosh will be a thorn for Israel
You see ......God was providing for .......the birth of Ruth.
On one level in the story Naomi represent backslidden Israel, on another level she represents the MANY. Ruth represents the FEW.
So here are some questions on the above (there are so many other questions also)
Can we wee the Elimeleck and Naomi in us?
In how many ways were we "a stranger" to the Father?
Do the Names play any role?
With this in mind what other parables do you see in this story. I hope you will read this short book and can make comments here
This is one of my favorite verses and summarizes the above.
(Jer 29:11) ‘For I know the plans I am planning for you, declares יהוה , ‘plans of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and an expectancy.
Beloved
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Oh Beloved,
I was just getting ready to take a deep breath, now that is gone. I have read The Book of Ruth
several times, and seen much of what you write about here. Noami and Elimelech as representing
Israel, Gentiles and Salvation for All is running throughout this Book.
Later today i will go back and find my notes, this is a great topic for this weekend i think.
Rth 2: 11-15 (GNB)
11 Boaz answered, "I have heard about everything that you have done for your mother-in-law since your husband died. I know how you left your father and mother and your own country and how you came to live among a people you had never known before.
12 May the LORD reward you for what you have done. May you have a full reward from the LORD God of Israel, to whom you have come for protection!"
13 Ruth answered, "You are very kind to me, sir. You have made me feel better by speaking gently to me, even though I am not the equal of one of your servants."
14 At mealtime Boaz said to Ruth, "Come and have a piece of bread, and dip it in the sauce." So she sat with the workers, and Boaz passed some roasted grain to her. She ate until she was satisfied, and she still had some food left over.
15 After she had left to go and gather grain, Boaz ordered the workers, "Let her gather grain even where the bundles are lying, and don't say anything to stop her. Besides that, pull out some heads of grain from the bundles and leave them for her to pick up."
george. :)
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Ruth Chapter 1
v11 And Naomi said, Turn again, my daughters: why will ye go with me? [Naomi returning to Judah after death of her husband, Elimelech]
v12-13 ...Turn again, my daughters, go your way; for I am too old to have an husband...if I should have an husband also to night, and should also bear sons; Would ye tarry for them till they were grown? [Naomi's daughters in law, Orpah & Ruth, wanting to go with Naomi back to Judah...but as Naomi notes, she has no husband and no sons for them to marry so there would be no purpose for them to go with her]
v14-15 And they lifted up their voice, and wept again: and Orpah kissed her mother in law; but Ruth clave unto her. And she said, Behold, thy sister in law is gone back unto her people, and unto her gods: return thou after thy sister in law. [Orpah has chosen to kiss her mother in law goodbye and return to Moab in all it's idolatry...but Ruth 'cleaves' to Naomi; Naomi notes that Orpah returned to Moab so Ruth should do the same]
v16-19 And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and THY GOD MY GOD: Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: the LORD do so to me, and more also, if ought but death part thee and me. When she [Naomi] saw that she [Ruth] was stedfastly minded to go with her, then she left speaking unto her. So they two went until they came to Bethlehem.
Matt 10:38-39 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it [Orpah]: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. [Ruth]
Matt 19:29-30 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life [like Ruth but unlike Orpah]. But many that are first shall be last [Orpah]; and the last shall be first. [Ruth]
Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it [Orpah]; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it. [Ruth]
Luke 17:33-36 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it [Orpah]; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it [Ruth]. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken [Ruth], and the other shall be left [Orpah]. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken [Ruth], and the other left [Orpah]. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken [Ruth], and the other left. [Orpah]
Like George said, a great topic. :)
Marques
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Maybe I am oversimplifying this, but they left for Moab because there was a famine in the land. I'm not sure of your premise that they were leaving safety in search of fortune. It sounds like they were looking for food. We don't know how old the sons were, but having hungry children would be horrible. And of course God was behind the famine so I'm not sure we can say they were disobedient in leaving.
The marrying part is more complicated...but I look forward to hearing more of those answers. I also love learning how the scriptures are all one and I enjoyed your analysis of the many and the few.
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Kicking the Goads, yes you have it...my point exactly. You caught the safety thing.
They owned land and they must have had possessions , did they sell them all so they could buy seeds and not starved. Did they finally run out of things? They had land and two sons to work it, others obviously made it through the famine.
You are exactly right it was God who caused the famine and it was He who caused them to decide to leave...unlike Abram who was well fed and secure. t Abram was directly told by God to leave and Abram obeyed. Did you catch those words.....a certain man in the opening verses....sound like he was hand picked by God for this sojourn.
Lets look at the all of the names
H458 אלימלך 'ĕlîymelek From H410 and H4428; God of (the) king; Elimelek,
Hitchcock Elimelech my God is king
H5281 נעמי no‛ŏmîy no-om-ee' From H5278; pleasant; Naomi
Hitcock Naomi beautiful; agreeable
Mahlon infirmity; a harp; pardon Ruth married the first born Rth 4:10
Chilion finished; complete; perfect since Orpah is mentioned first she probable married the pretty one ;D.
They both came with dowries, perhaps that is why they married these women .
They lived there 10 years so it does not sound like they had land or a business etc or much of anything even then since Naomi was willing to leave it all and send the women back to their mothers houses.
Ruth drunk; satisfied Other source oint out that it is a contraction for re'uth perhaps signifying "comrade," "companion"
Orpah the neck or skull Her name is supposed to be derived from the Hebrew word for "neck" (`oreph), and so to mean "stiff-necked" because of her turning-back from following her mother-in-law; others take it to mean "gazelle."
Do not know if this is tue or urban legend but this was the name picked out by Oprah Winfreys mother and it got misspelled on the birth certificate.
Yes Marques your reference show us that it was the piety and fidelity seen in Ruth in this narrative, she refused to abandon her mother-in-law, although three times she was exhorted to do so by Naomi herself.
Naomi was getting on in years and there were probably better prospects for Ruth in her own country. Orpah yielded to persuasion, and went back to Moab; but Ruth followed Naomi. I will address more on your verses later
We are all Elimelecks and say God is my King but then we try to do things to make things go the way we want them not understanding that everything in our lives is making us make our decisions, the things we are taught and learn from parents and others all color our ideas, the thing that happen to us color our emotions and these all play a role in our behavior.
We all are Naomi, beautiful and agreeable until things turn sour then we are also quick to change our names to bitter and miserable.
Paul instructs us
(Php 4:12) I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
(Php 4:13) I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Proverbs also tells us this
(Pro 30:7) Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die:
(Pro 30:8 ) Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:
(Pro 30:9) Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
I was just recently struck when I realized that the early believers only had the TENACH or Old testament to go by. The New testament or Brit Chesad can therefore be seen as the spiritual commentary to the TENACH.
Thanks for all of the comments so far this story is so full of milk and meat when you look at it closer.
I have to get my taxes done right now so I can render to Caesar what is Caesars :P :P :P.
Beloved
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Hi, To me Ruth sets the true example of humbleness. She could have thought of herself instead of others. I pray ,that I will always put others first and myself last.
So, true Beloved, When, things get tough we get bitter or feel like giving up. But, we need to remember who is in charge and he knows what is best. For sure we can see ourself in this book of Ruth. Hopefully, we will see ourself being made into the Image of God.
When, I look back on my life I have seen many times my life would have been a disaster if I would be having my way. We need to learn who, gives us the good and the trials in our life is doing all for our best. Being content in the storms are truly hard to do.
Look how blessed Namoi became from this selfless act of Ruths .
Ruth Chapter 4 verse 14 And the women said unto Naomi, Blessed be the Lord which hath not left thee this day without a kinsman, that his name may be famous in Israel
But in this verse 14 we see the hand of God in it all. Just, like his hand is in every life. If, we give up self we will receive more spiritual blessings. Spiritual blessings that are more valuable then anything material in this world. Many sacrifice there inheritance for things that are not lasting. The few will live for the Spiritual Blessings. The kinsman who did not redeem Ruth sure lost out.
I can remember when we were reading the Bible in a year in church. People were complaining about the names. The names are important for sure. God did not put the names in there for no reason at all. For sure Gods plan is the only plan that is going to happen. Now, after coming out of Babylon and reading the scriptures from OT show that God has a plan and he will accomplish his plan. Salvation For All the Bible is about life not death. Death will be destroyed. All Praise and Glory be to God!
In His Love,
Marlene
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Oh Marques did you hit on a powerful line
v14-15 And they lifted up their voice, and wept again: and Orpah kissed her mother in law; but Ruth clave unto her. And she said, Behold, thy sister in law is gone back unto her people, and unto her gods: return thou after thy sister in law.
You said Orpah has chosen to kiss her mother in law goodbye and return to Moab in all it's idolatry...but Ruth 'cleaves' to Naomi; Naomi notes that Orpah returned to Moab so Ruth should do the same]
Ray discusses touches on this in his paper http://bible-truths.com/kiss.htm
Like Orpah the church and world is ready to lament and kiss each other but they do this symbolically act of love only. The Many are self centered.
Ruth on the other hand showed true loving kindness. This whole book is a focus on loving kindess the three central figures show it with Ruth and Boaz being the prime examples.it In Hebrew the word for this is Chesed
H2617 חסד chêsêd kheh'-sedFrom H2616; kindness; by implication (towards God) piety; rarely (by opprobrium) reproof, or (subjectively) beauty: - favour, good deed (-liness, -ness), kindly, (loving-) kindness, merciful (kindness), mercy, pity, to cause reproach or shame.
Without the Chesed of God we would be in extreme state
(Lam 3:20) My soul hath them still in remembrance, and is humbled in me.
(Lam 3:21) This I recall to my mind, therefore have I hope.
(Lam 3:22) It is of the LORD's mercies Chesed that we are not consumed, because his compassions chesed fail not.
(Lam 3:23) They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.
Not only is His total character loving (Chesed ) but he also makes sure that we remember that He is Loving (Chesed) How great is that!
(Psa 106:44) Nevertheless he regarded their affliction, when he heard their cry:
(Psa 106:45) And He remembered for them His covenant, and repented according to the multitude of his mercies Chesed .
The world was made with Chesed
(Psa 89:1) I will sing of the mercies (Chesed )of the LORD forever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations.
(Psa 89:2) For I have said, Mercy (Chesed) shall be built up forever: thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens.
Every line in Pslam 136 ends with For His Steadfast Love (CHESED) Endureth Forever
Psa 138:8 The LORD will perfect that which concerneth me: thy steadfast love (Chesed), O LORD, endureth forever: forsake not the works of thine own hands
Jesus of course is the Chesed of God incarnate. He embodies the Chesed of God
Total unselfish Love is the end goal of on the road to perfection that Peter expoused. The few His elect will need to develope that quality
(2Pe 1:5) But also [for] this very [reason], having applied all diligence, provide with your* faith moral excellence, and with moral excellence knowledge,
(2Pe 1:6) and with knowledge self-control, and with self-control patient endurance, and with patient endurance godliness,
(2Pe 1:7) and with godliness brotherly kindness [fig., affection for fellow-believers] (phileo), and with brotherly kindness (phileo ), (agape)tlove.
(2Pe 1:8) For [if] these [qualities] belong to you* and [are] abounding [or, increasing], it makes [you*] neither useless nor unfruitful in regard to the full [or, true] knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
And guess what is the greek word that is the equivalent....Grace
May we all be found in His House of Mercy (Bethesda)
Beloved
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Marlene you said
Look how blessed Namoi became from this selfless act of Ruths .
Ruth Chapter 4 verse 14 And the women said unto Naomi, Blessed be the Lord which hath not left thee this day without a kinsman, that his name may be famous in Israel
But in this verse 14 we see the hand of God in it all. Just, like his hand is in every life. If, we give up self we will receive more spiritual blessings. Spiritual blessings that are more valuable then anything material in this world. Many sacrifice there inheritance for things that are not lasting. The few will live for the Spiritual Blessings. The kinsman who did not redeem Ruth sure lost out.
You are exactly right ...Naomi was the one redeemed. The levirite marriage gave her back the family name and the land. I hope I and others will be able elaborate more on this type of marriage and its significance.
And yes even the rabbinic literature refers to the other kinsman as Tov or Peloni Amoni (John Doe) they also see him as the one that lost out.
In a way he represents is a redeemer by Good Works rather than a Chesed kinsman redeemer. He had to have a good reason to do it. He probably thought that he would also die like Mahlon did Perhaps the story of tamar was still fresh in their minds. ...Boaz on the other hand was willing to take that chance. A willing sacrifice.
Beloved
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To take this to another angle consider the following:
Matt 10 : 34-35 Do not think that I come to bring peace ON EARTH. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. I come to DISSEVER a man from his father, and a daughter from her mother, and a daughter-in-law from her mother-in-law.
Note Christ DISSEVERs 1369 to make apart ie sunder (figurative alienate): set at varience. Ref Strongs.
This setting at varience is between carnal traditional unions of the flesh and not between the man and wifes spiritual bonds. Ie God floggs His children not His Bride.
Arc
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Debrah It looks to me that you may be taking a verse and using it out of context. If you are implying that Ruth did not receive chastisement, read the verses carefully.
She married and her husband dies
She received a pretty good grilling and almost a rejection from Naomi
Naomi may not have very pleasant to live with
She left all and arrived in Bethlehem poor and destitute.
She had to submit herself to gleaning the fields
She had to take a huge risk and undergo an ordeal at midnight...with Boaz
While on earth WE ARE ALL Children (tecknon) of GOD ...the bride is a heavenly state it is not achieved in the physical.
Ruth and Naomi's first blessing came because they arrived at the time of the Barley and Wheat harvest....it was an opportunity to obtain food because God had laid down rules for his people to assist the poor...the mitzvah of gleaning is Divine Providence in action.
I do not know how these verse tie into this discussion
(Mat 10:34) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
(Mat 10:35) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
It has a match in Luke
(Luke 12:51) Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
(Luke 12:52) For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
(Luke 12:53) The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
These verses preceded the above
(Luke 12:49) I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
(Luke 12:50) But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!
Ruth appears to have cleaved to Naomi but she was actually cleaving to the Promises of God that she saw and heard. She was willing to leave ALL of her family and culture to find it...she was taking the first step toward buying her pearl of great price.
She was blessed in the physical and became a levirite bride and bore a son that made her the great grandmother of David and better yet became one in the physical lineage of the Messiah and also received the promise of a spiritual lineage.
God is not talking about division for division sake, he does not want spiritual division.....
(1Pe 3:8) Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
beloved
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Beloved,
While reading the last part of your statement:
Ruth appears to have cleaved to Naomi but she was actually cleaving to the Promises of God that she saw and heard. She was willing to leave ALL of her family and culture to find it...she was taking the first step toward buying her pearl of great price.
This is the same as when we begin to learn the truths of God. Even when we first gave our lives to Christ even when in the Church people and even some family soon began to reject us because we started to turn away from what we had known. Now that we have found the next step, this step into Bible Truths we will once again turn away from what we knew before and cling to the truth! OUR pearl of great price! The more truth you acquire the more out of step with mainstream Christianity you become. This is really leaving family and culture behind!
I had never thought of the Book of Ruth in this way before, thanks for bringing this up!
Kathy
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Hi Carol
The OT is written for our admonition. Admonition = Strong's 3559 Mild rebuke or warning.
The "Chosen" live by the New Covenant: The "Called" try to live by the New and the Old Covenants. They have never learned this simple lesson: "No servant can serve TWO masters…" (Luke 16:13). The two covenants are not even in "according" with one another—they are not to be "unequally yoked together," seeing that they are not equal. http:;;bible-truths.com/lake11html
ALL of the men and women of faith, the fathers, the patriarchs, and prophets are DEAD.
ALL of them died "looking for a country & home afar off," which they never received.
ALL these received a "good report," but they received NO PROMISES.
ALL these "desired a heavenly" home, but they NEVER RECEIVED IT.
ALL these will remain dead until WE are given OUR promises.
OUR promise is better: "God having provided some BETTER THING FOR US."
WE are to become "perfect" Col. 4:12; Eph. 4:13; Gal. 3:3; Phil. 3:15; Col. 1:28; etc,
WE are to become "perfect" BEFORE the saints of old; BEFORE Moses & Elijah.
THEY are not only made perfect AFTER us, but are made perfect THROUGH US!http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
My point is to clarify the two groups in resurrection which I see is illustrated by what Christ taught us concerning our familial ties as I observed in my post when I quoted
Matt 10 : 34-35 Do not think that I come to bring peace ON EARTH. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. I come to DISSEVER a man from his father, and a daughter from her mother, and a daughter-in-law from her mother-in-law.
You say quote "Ruth appears to have cleaved to Naomi but she was actually cleaving to the Promises of God that she saw and heard. She was willing to leave ALL of her family and culture
Instead of saying she was WILLING might it be better to say she was CAUSED by God don't you think?
As Ray writes in http://bible-truths.com/lake11.html Law is good, but grace and truth is better.
Grace and Truth is God judging us and making us do and become what we cannot do or become on our own.
Arc
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I thought that I made this clear in my whole premise when I started this post and outlined the physical apsects of this story was that
God was and is ......in control of everything.
Of course God caused her to make a decision to leave all... I do not see where I indicated anything else. He made all the circumstances in her life that were needed so she would be willing to leave all....is that better?
You say that
The OT is written for our admonition. Admonition = Strong's 3559 Mild rebuke or warning
All scripture is for our admonition.
Is this reference to the OT because you are disturbed because of all the hebrew references/words or terminolgy that I have used in my posts?
beloved
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Ray teaches on the Wave Sheaf, First Fruits and Feast of Tabernacles which are HEBREW references. Ray writes :There is a beautiful type in the Old Testament that clearly demonstrates when and in what manner all these Unsaved masses will be saved. This Old Testament type is illustrated all through the New Testament, but the blind and unperceiving eyes of Christendom have for the most part failed to see it, believe it, or teach it.http://bible-truths.com/lake4.html
All Scripture is NOT for our admonition. All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16
This discussion is getting off the subject so I am getting off the Tread. :)
Arcturus
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All Scripture is NOT for our admonition. All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16
This discussion is getting off the subject so I am getting off the Tread. :)
Arcturus,
I'm sorry, but that statement is contradicted by the very scripture you posted. Like Beloved points out, admonition means: 'rebuke or warning' similar to 'reproof' as well as 'correction' which is the purpose of the 'warning'. The purpose for admonition is to warn us so that we can be corrected and used for 'instruction in righteousness'.
But I do agree with this thread veering off-course...hopefully we can get back to the subject at hand. :)
Marques
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Hello Marques
All Scripture is NOT for our admonition means that SOME Scripture is for instruction in righteousness.
Isaiah 26 : 9 ...for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
To quote Ray:
This is an absolutely marvelous teaching. God "judges" us by "chastening "(paideuo) us, which means, teaching, training, learning, disciplining, punishing, instructing, and educating. And God "graces" us also by this same "chastening" (paideuo) which does not change meaning from one Scripture verse to another. Notice how other translations render this word paideuo in Titus 2:11-12:
"Teaching us..." King James
"Instructing us..." American Standard Version
"Disciplining us... New Testament (Henry Alford)
"And schooling us..." The Centenary Translation (Montgomery)
"Training us..." The New Testament in Modern Speech (Weymouth)
Now it is true that the Greek word paideuo #3811 can also mean "punishment." But punishment is not the main force of this word. Notice that none of the above translations (nor any that I know of) translate this word, "For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, PUNISHING us that denying ungodliness ..." No, the force of this word is to DISCIPLINE, TRAIN, INSTRUCT, SCHOOL AND TEACH.http://bible-truths.com/lake3.html
MarquesBeloved points out, admonition means: 'rebuke or warning' similar to 'reproof' as well as 'correction' which is the purpose of the 'warning'. The purpose for admonition is to warn us so that we can be corrected and used for 'instruction in righteousness'.
Where did Beloved point that out? I missed that one.
I have been unwillingly CAUSED to answer your post mharrell08 for the sake of not being disrespectful.
Arc
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Particular attention to Chapter 4, but the whole story is on one of Genealogy of: The Man Jesus Christ, Redemption of All, Including the Gentiles in the Promise, Inheritance rights, acting in faith. It is not just what ties directly to The Book of Ruth; but to the Scriptures as a whole.
Ray stresses over and over on this point; It Is All One. Whenever we start seeing more than one we know (we are wrong) so then back to the Scriptures to find where we fell off the track. The book Of Ruth ties in with The Pearl Of Great Price and Buying the whole field (parables); another preview of Redemption and Salvation In Jesus Christ.
Inheritance rights in a contract, must be properly witnessed and sealed for legal transfer.
Rth 4: 7-8 (GW)
7 (This is the way it used to be in Israel concerning buying back property and exchanging goods: In order to make every matter legal, a man would take off his sandal and give it to the other man. This was the way a contract was publicly approved in Israel.)
8 So when the man said to Boaz, "Buy it for yourself," he took off his sandal.
Proper description of the property also must be noted and witnessed.
Rth 4: 9-12 (GW)
9 Then Boaz said to the leaders and to all the people, "Today you are witnesses that I have bought from Naomi all that belonged to Elimelech and all that belonged to Chilion and Mahlon.
10 In addition, I have bought as my wife the Moabite Ruth, Mahlon's widow, to keep the inheritance in the dead man's name. In this way the dead man's name will not be cut off from his relatives or from the public records. Today you are witnesses."
11 All the people who were at the gate, including the leaders, said, "We are witnesses. May the LORD make this wife, who is coming into your home, like Rachel and Leah, both of whom built our family of Israel. So show your strength of character in Ephrathah and make a name for yourself in Bethlehem.
12 Also, from the descendant whom the LORD will give you from this young woman, may your family become like the family of Perez, the son whom Tamar gave birth to for Judah."
How it all ties into our Saviour Lord And King Jesus Christ; Root of Jesse, Son Of David.
Rth 4: 13-17 (GW)
13 Then Boaz took Ruth home, and she became his wife. He slept with her, and the LORD gave her the ability to become pregnant. So she gave birth to a son.
14 The women said to Naomi, "Praise the LORD, who has remembered today to give you someone who will take care of you. The child's name will be famous in Israel.
15 He will bring you a new life and support you in your old age. Your daughter-in-law who loves you is better to you than seven sons, because she has given birth."
16 Naomi took the child, held him on her lap, and became his guardian.
17 The women in the neighborhood said, "Naomi has a son." So they gave him the name Obed. He became the father of Jesse, who was the father of David.
Quote from 12 truths:
God’s truths are like treasures hidden in a field. We must buy the field and then diligently search out the treasure.
TWELVE GOD-GIVEN TRUTHS TO UNDERSTAND HIS WORD
http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
"None of the wicked shall understand; but the Wise shall understand" (Daniel 12:10)
In this paper I'm going to briefly outline just twelve truths of Scripture from many that God has shown me over the years. I try to apply these truths to all subjects that I write about. More than just truths, I look upon them as spiritual commandments from God, absolutely necessary in rightly dividing the Word of Truth. My hope and my prayer is that God will grace you with a spirit of wisdom to comprehend these marvelous revelations of Scripture.
I have received countless emails over the years in which my detractors inform me that the Scriptures are easy to understand: all one has to do is read them.
That’s not true. Billions of Christians "read" the Scriptures, but have not a clue as to what they mean. And one of the biggest problems in not understanding what they have read is that they do not believe the Scriptures. And why don’t they believe? Because their shepherds have deceived them into believing that Christian doctrines take precedent over the Scriptures.
I know of not one Christian doctrine that is completely Scriptural. Not one. And that includes, SDA’s, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Science, and every other institutionalized church and denomination of manmade creeds. These truths that I am presenting here are "creed busters." They destroy the doctrines of men. They make the wisdom of religion look incredibly stupid. God’s truths are like treasures hidden in a field. We must buy the field and then diligently search out the treasure. The following twelve truths of Scripture could make you very spiritually wealthy.
george. ;D
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To clarify for the Forum
I do not unwillingly respect any Moderator here. I highly respect and value their appointments and am cognisant of the responsibility and accountability that such an appointment affords.
Neither do I unwillingly contribute to any Thread. I am UNWILLING and prefere not to be part of any contention or debate.
I agree we have to search George. Also that :
....no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation 2 Peter 1:20 http://bible-trutyhs.com/lake5.html
Arc
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MarquesBeloved points out, admonition means: 'rebuke or warning' similar to 'reproof' as well as 'correction' which is the purpose of the 'warning'. The purpose for admonition is to warn us so that we can be corrected and used for 'instruction in righteousness'.
Where did Beloved point that out? I missed that one.
I have been unwillingly CAUSED to answer your post mharrell08 for the sake of not being disrespectful.
Arc
Here is where Beloved stated such (reply #12):
You say that
The OT is written for our admonition. Admonition = Strong's 3559 Mild rebuke or warning
All scripture is for our admonition.
Hello Marques
All Scripture is NOT for our admonition means that SOME Scripture is for instruction in righteousness.
Isaiah 26 : 9 ...for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
The scripture states: 'All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness' [2 Tim 3:16]
That statement that 'some scripture is for instruction in righteousness' is not true...all scripture is for doctrine, all scripture is for reproof, all scripture is for correction, all scripture is for instruction in righteousness...whether they speak of only the just or unjust the other is always in view. Similar to the parables...sometimes they emphasis the Elect, other times the wicked...but the other is always in view.
Marques
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That's sweet Marques. Beloved was quoting me.
I was trying to explain that not all Scripture is for Admonition, rebuke, punishment etc. I did not explain well enough.
Arc
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Seven different translations, all seem to say the same thing, but look at all the words in each one.
There is light in even the different translations: All Scripture, Every Scripture, Every Holy Writing,
Every Writing.
We are looking for agreement but need to agree in Truth, remember The Scriptures do not contradict.
2Ti 3: (16-17 YLT)
16 every Writing is God-breathed, and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for setting aright, for instruction that is in righteousness,
17 that the man of God may be fitted--for every good work having been completed.
2Ti 3: 16-17 (CLV)
16 All scripture is inspired by God, and is beneficial for teaching, for exposure, for correction, for discipline in righteousness,
17 that the man of God may be equipped, fitted out for every good act."
2Ti 3: (GW)
16 Every Scripture passage is inspired by God. All of them are useful for teaching, pointing out errors, correcting people, and training them for a life that has God's approval.
17 They equip God's servants so that they are completely prepared to do good things.
2Ti 3: 16-17 (WNT)
16 Every Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for convincing, for correction of error, and for instruction in right doing;
17 so that the man of God may himself be complete and may be perfectly equipped for every good work.
2Ti 3: 16-17 (GNB)
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching the truth, rebuking error, correcting faults, and giving instruction for right living,
17 so that the person who serves God may be fully qualified and equipped to do every kind of good deed.
2Ti 3: 16-17 (BBE)
16 Every holy Writing which comes from God is of profit for teaching, for training, for guiding, for education in righteousness:
17 So that the man of God may be complete, trained and made ready for every good work.
2Ti 3: 16-17 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2Ti 3: 16-17 (EMTV)
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
17 that the man of God may be proficient, having been thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Second Witness
1Co 10: 11-12 (GW)
11 These things happened to make them an example for others. These things were written down as a warning for us who are living in the closing days of history.
12 So, people who think they are standing firmly should be careful that they don't fall.
1Co 10: 11-12 (KJV)
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
george. ;D
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In getting back to the subject Marlene mentioned the marriage.
There are a lot of unusual and interesting things about this levrite ritual. It seems very peculiar to us today and of course it is no longer practiced even in Judism.
(Deu 25:5) If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of a husband's brother unto her.
(Deu 25:6) And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
(Deu 25:7) And if the man like not to take his brother's wife, then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say, My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother.
(Deu 25:8) Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
(Deu 25:9) Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot, and spit in his face, and shall answer and say, So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house.
(Deu 25:10) And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
This leverite rule was called Yibrim in Hebrew.
So now we have to see that because there was no brother the next relative to came to fulfil this role as a Goel which is translated kinsman-redeemer - another person was needed. This role of Goel was to preserve family integrity, the persons and the property and family reputation and posterity, here are the command
leviticus 25;25 He would buy back land that was lost due to financial problems
Leviticus 25:48 He would buy back his relatives from indentureship or slavery
Numbers 35:19 He preserved the family name and avenged the blood of a murdered family member
Deut 25 5 to 10 He was to preserved the name of the family by marrying a childless widow
This was a very important honor and responsibility for the patriarchal head, so lets look at this person
Rth 2:1 And Naomi had a kinsman of her husband's, a mighty man of wealth, of the family of Elimelech; and his name was Boaz
Boaz means Strength, but he was also noted to be a mighty man of wealth
H1368 גּבּר גּבּור gibbôr gibbôr ghib-bore', ghib-bore' Intensive from the same as H1397; powerful; by implication warrior, tyrant: - champion, chief, X excel, giant, man, mighty (man, one), strong (man), valiant man.
H2428 חיל chayil khah'-yil From H2342; probably a force, whether of men, means or other resources; an army, wealth, virtue, valor, strength: - able, activity, (+) army, band of men (soldiers), company, (great) forces, goods, host, might, power, riches, strength, strong, substance, train, (+) valiant (-ly), valour, virtuous (-ly), war, worthy (-ily).
Boaz went to the gate and called 10 witnesses . He was a shrewd businessmen. He was smart to talk about the land offer first but then quickly added the catch..both Naomi and Ruth came with the parcel and that the duty to rise up the dead came with it.
Yes Boaz was a much better candidate than the kinsman who was th one closer.. he was called Armoni Paloni (Mr so and so). For him it was better to not accept the land and give it to Boaz or he would have had to face the shame of refusal. Boaz gave him a way out of this by pre-accepting it, if he refused. The matter of taking off the shoe was about walking the land to show claim it. The shoe was also an instrument of shame if refused.
Some of you may be wondering what is the significance of all of this stuff.
see part two
beloved
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Remember that Jesus himself had to deal with this issue, when they came to trap him in a teaching.
(Luk 20:27) Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection: and they asked him,
(Luk 20:28) Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
(Luk 20:29) There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children. .... etc etc until married the 7th an both died
(Luk 20:33) Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
(Luk 20:34) And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
(Luk 20:35) But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
(Luk 20:36) Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
(Luk 20:37) Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
(Luk 20:38) For He is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto Him.
So you see this custom in away comes out of marriage bond ...where two flesh are made into one. The reasoning was that the "husbands essence was preserved" in the wife and could be brought back into the family.
Jesus really shows His Divine wisdom in His answer to these Sadducee's and does not address their silly illogical midrash. He gets right to the point....in the Resurrection
there is no relationship with individuals...they will not die just like the angles. There will only one relationship ...all will belong to their Creator and all are children of the Resurrection and of God.
It is by His lovingkindness (Chedesh) by which we were made and are kept and will be delivered
The Levirite marriages of these women in scripture in the lineage of Jesus are extremely symbolic and shadows of the the fact that even the gentiles would be brought back into the family. Here Boaz is the symbolic kinsmen redeemer....the difference is spiritual.
Christ was resurrected and He opened the Kingdom and He will bring in His Few and then the Many. For He is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto Him. Like Ray says it is all about One.
beloved
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Amen Beloved, I see how that all fits.
In His Love,
Marlene
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Rodger
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Wow! Beloved, who knew what lessons are to be learned from a small book of Scripture! Did this actually leave Rodger speechless?? ;)
Kathy :D
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Tradition has it that Boaz was elderly, he was however still fit enough to work and guard his fields.
Ruth is submissive and obedient in all. She does not quite understand why Boaz would even take notice of her as a foreigner . She appreciates his attention and concern for her.
She is even obedient when Naomi tells Ruth go to the threshing floor in the middle of the night . This was dangerous and could give the wrong message.
This midnight encounter is very symbolic
She was told to wash, annoint and change her remnant... things the elect must do if they want to go to the threshing floor a place of separation and judgement . The Word and the spirit must wash us, we must be a sweet smell to our God and have His righteous garment on and have all of our filty rags removed. The elect are being judged now while they live the many will be later..
Did you notice the prophetic phrase that Naomi’s makes in
(Rth 2:20) And Naomi said unto her daughter-in-law, Blessed be he of the LORD, who hath not left off his kindness to the living and to the dead. And Naomi said unto her, The man is near of kin unto us, one of our next kinsmen.
She is right He has not stopped showing his kindness to either the physical living or dead and he will continue to show it to the spiritual living andr dead"
I think the women naturally get goosebumps at this next romantic act of Ruth when uncovers his feet and lies at his feet like a ready servant of the master but we have to remember that in the Hebrew culture this was a covenant act.
What struck me was that the corners of the garmets are where God commaned his people to place the Tsitsit, these are tassels with blue thread.
It is the part that the woman of issue took hold of on Jesus ....the tassle are visual aids of God's commandment to help man remember the covenant that God has made. Those tassles would re-enforce the message that Boaz needed to obey the commandment that Ruth and naomi were seeking.
(Num 15:38) `Speak unto the sons of Israel, and thou hast said unto them, and they have made for themselves fringes on the skirts of their garments, to their generations, and they have put on the fringe of the skirt a ribbon of blue,
(Num 15:39) and it hath been to you for a fringe, and ye have seen it, and have remembered all the commands of Jehovah, and have done them, and ye search not after your heart, and after your eyes, after which ye are going a-whoring;
(Num 15:40) so that ye remember and have done all My commands, and ye have been holy to your God;
The corners are also thought of as wings and this wings metaphor is used many many times to show that God will provide for us if we seek HIm as our refuge.
(Eze 16:8) Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I swore unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
Israel is the woman He spread His corner over, mans nakedness must be covered.
(Eze 16:60) Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
Here is sample of some other verses that I picked out
Exo 19:4 Ye--ye have seen that which I have done to the Egyptians, and I bear you on eagles' wings , and bring you in unto Myself.
Deu 32:11 As an eagle waketh up its nest, Over its young ones fluttereth, Spreadeth its wings--taketh them, Beareth them on its pinions;
Psa 17:8 Keep me as the apple, the daughter of the eye; In shadow of Thy wings thou dost hide me
Psa 36:7 How precious is Thy kindness, O God, And the sons of men In the shadow of Thy wings do trust.
Psa 63:7 For Thou hast been a help to me, And in the shadow of Thy wings I sing.
Psa 91:4 With His pinion He covereth thee over, And under His wings thou dost trust, A shield and buckler is His truth.
Jesus himself alludes to this with even a more personal touch, not with a magnificent eagle but with a lowly hen.
Luk 13:34 `Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that is killing the prophets, and stoning those sent unto her, how often did I will to gather together thy children, as a hen her brood under the wings, and ye did not will.
What is really moving is this midnight meeting is something that we all have to experience and then take Rest in His Sovergnty, Lovingkindness and Mercy (Chesed)
Did you see this line?
(Rth 3:1) Then Naomi her mother-in-law said unto her, My daughter, shall I not seek rest for thee, that it may be well with thee?
Naomi tells her that she will seek her rest, but like the church she is blind.
H4494 מנוח mânôach maw-no'-akh From H5117; quiet, that is, (concretely) a settled spot, or (figuratively) a home: - (place of) rest.
But we know that true REST is not possible to achieve through any self made attempt
No we have to go another route,
(Mat 11:28) Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you REST.
(Mat 11:29) Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
(Mat 11:30) For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Beloved
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This is a fantastic post. I am following it and also marking scriptures. I may still be a child, but the Lord is making me work. My Bible never looked like this while in Babylon. I have found me some tools to help me now. I really get all excited over learning this all. It also, makes your personal walk better.
It also, amazes me how I can be thinking about something and I go to look for it in scriptures and the Lord puts me right on the Chapter and verse I am needing. This child is growing so this confirms to me the Holy Spirit is working in me.
In His Love,
Marlene
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Yes Marlene when reading the Word the Lord will lead you in the Spirit
Try chewing on this little verse and see what He will show you
(Rth 2:2) And Ruth the Moabitess saith unto Naomi, `Let me go, I pray thee, into the field, and I gather among the ears of corn after him in whose eyes I find grace;' and she saith to her, `Go, my daughter.'
Beloved
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Beloved's Study is spot on, unfortunatly we still have .....
childern !
Sorry Rodger but this sounds very intolerant and I am offended as I am yet learning and I don't glean half of what is being said in this thread. I have been reading at BT everyday for a year now. To use the word "unfortunately" implies babes in the word are a bother to you. We are not born adults just as we are not scholars in the truth of scripture as soon as we leave babylon.
Eileen
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you said
I don't glean half of what is being said in this thread. I have been reading at BT everyday for a year now.
We are not born adults just as we are not scholars in the truth of scripture as soon as we leave babylon.
Great choice of word Eileen, you are right on,
we are all poor and working in he field of Our Master, we are all trying to find these morsels and need all of the other reapers to leave small bundles to help up obtain our nourishment.
Some are teething and can not always tolerate rich food now but will soon hopefully . good thing right now it is a buffet that is always open.
beloved
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Let him/her who is thirsty come, humility is not inborn; it is learned, we need to park
the egos until we leave. My hope and Prayer is thet someone will happen by while the
egos are parked and steal them away. We All come to The Throne Of GRACE with
nothing to offer, so no need for pride or taking offense at others.
Think how offended we would be if Jesus Christ Is Told By The Father; To Come Now.
I am writing this in all humility, but with real urgency as we do not know The Day or Hour. :-\
Mar 13: 32-37 (CLV)
32 Now concerning that day or hour no one is aware - neither the messengers in heaven, nor the Son - except the Father."
33 Beware! Be vigilant and pray, for you are not aware when the era is."
34 It is as a man, a traveler, leaving his home and giving his slaves authority, and to each his work, and he directs the doorkeeper that he may be watching."
35 Watch, then, for you are not aware when the lord of the house is coming, at evening, or midnight, or cockcrowing, or morning,
36 that, coming suddenly, he may not be finding you drowsing."
37 Now what I am saying to you, I am saying to all: 'Watch!'" ::)
george. :o
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I guess I shouldn't have been so glib by saying Rodger was speechless! Sorry :'(
And the whole "unfortunately" thing in your reply Rodger went right over my head! Perhaps I am one of the children! I am just sorry that I said anything! :(
Thank you George! I guess I need to learn the lesson of "less is better", huh?
Kathy :-X
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Beloved,
Thanks for the morsels from the bundles, sharing the word is a Privilege The Master Is Giving Us.
Ruth 2:15
After she had left to go and gather grain, Boaz ordered the workers, "Let her gather grain even where the bundles are lying, and don't say anything to stop her. Besides that, pull out some heads of grain from the bundles and leave them for her to pick up."
george. ;D
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I guess I shouldn't have been so glib by saying Rodger was speechless! Sorry :'(
And the whole "unfortunately" thing in your reply Rodger went right over my head! Perhaps I am one of the children! I am just sorry that I said anything! :(
Thank you George! I guess I need to learn the lesson of "less is better", huh?
Kathy :-X
Hi Ninny,
The only thing you or anyone has to learn is to; Not get offended because words are
not put in the sequence that makes us feel good. We are not here to do our own work,
so why should anything offend us.
Mat 9:
36 But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd.
37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
george. ;D
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Ruth, was a very humble woman. She was poor and she was willing to work hard. She did not feel anyone owed her anything. She was willing to glean so she could find favor. Because of this Boaz saw her as humble and he blessed her. God blessed her cause she was willing to work for what she got. She was willing to suffer for God. She loved her Mother In Law. She could have gone back to her country after her husband died.
Willing to take what was left after the reapers were done. She found great treasures in what was left.
This makes me think of the Woman in Matt. who had a daughter with a demon and she would not let up on Jesus to heal her daughter.
I love these verses.
Matt. 24 But he answered her and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
verse 25 Then came she and worshipped him , saying Lord, help me.
verse 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
verse 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet ;the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters'table
verse 28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is they faith be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
Ruth was willing to work hard for what she received even though it was the custom to let the poor glean after the reapers. She was humble and would do the best with what little she had. There was great pearls in that little. She knew it was of great value and it was worth the hard work. She choose to deal with the life handed to her . She did not what to have the life of ease.
It is a great blessing to us who are still children to glean behind the reapers. We should all work hard to learn what those who have learned share with us. Yes, Beloved and with the Holy Spirit of God and Brothers and Sisters sharing what he has given them we will all grow to maturity. But, I do not want to take advantage and I want to work hard like Ruth. This hard work to follow God led her to Ruth Chapter 4 verse 22 Obed her (Son) begat Jesse, and Jesse begat David. And all of us ever born will be blessed by Christ. First the few and next the many. We all obtain this knowledge from God.
If, that means someone telling me like it is so be it. I have been offended so many times in my life. You, start to get use to it. But, if it is to teach me truth over my carnal mind I am grateful. There is no offense there. What, I like about this is that for Brothers and Sisters to share is wonderful. But, I will tell you all something, before coming in here even though I went to church I did not study the OT much. I mosty studied the NT. But because of God leading me in here and all your post I really want to study the OT also. I am just blessed to be among such studied people. God has put in me to study and that is what I am doing. When, we search for ourselves that is God working in us. The blessing comes from him, but he uses all the mature to uplift and correct the babes. I know, you have our best at heart.
In His Love,
Marlene
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The story of the scriptures from Genesis to Revelations in thirteen verses.
The Way of Love
1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1 Cor 13:1-13 (ESV)
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(Rth 2:2) And Ruth the Moabitess saith unto Naomi, `Let me go, I pray thee, into the field, and I gather among the ears of corn after him in whose eyes I find grace;' and she saith to her, `Go, my daughter.'
Ruth was poor and needed food, any pride was removed by the time she arrived in bethlehem and she was willing to work hard for it as a gleaner.
Yes Marlene Ruth was certainly humble and that is a trait that needs to be developed in the elect
1Pe 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
Later on Boaz tell Ruth to stay in his field. The World is where the Many are working, but it is the working of His field that is needed. That is where the Sewer sews the Seed..., that is the spiritual food we need. God takes the weak of the world and gives them the opportunity to work His field.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
The Word works in you and helps produce the spiritual fruits.
Marlene do not be intimidated the Old testament is not just a bunch of stories or history, it was studied by the Apostles and the Bereans when the New testament was being written. They expounded on it and showed its fulfillment with the Resurrection of Jesus Christ and His revelation of the scriptures to them , by of His teachings and the Revelations of Himself.
Beloved
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Koine the Bible in four verses
(Mat 22:37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
(Mat 22:38) This is the first and great commandment.
(Mat 22:39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
(Mat 22:40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
or even down to one verse
1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love
beloved