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Wow.  Just wow.  I'd never heard of something quite so elaborate.  Thanks for the heads up and I'm glad you weren't finally suckered in.

Several years ago, my 92-year-old uncle received a phone call in the morning from “me” telling him I was in jail in New Jersey (we live in PA) and I needed several thousand dollars for bail. He couldn’t understand why I was in NJ since I was scheduled for a hernia operation that afternoon. Nevertheless, he still went to the bank and attempted to withdraw the money for the “courier” who would pick it up. He has recently passed away from dementia. I guess it was already starting to affect his judgment even though, for his age, he seemed alert and very robust. That was actually the first sign. Fortunately, he was well known at the bank and mentioned to them why he wanted the money. They warned him it was probably a scam and wouldn’t give him the cash until he confirmed it. He went and checked in person with the local police. Naturally they told him the same. The disturbing thing is, the police said they couldn’t do anything and sent him on his way. It seems to me that it would have been quite easy to set something up for intercepting the “courier.” Not to mention, his personal safety. I don’t remember for sure, but I think he simply didn’t answer the door when someone arrived.

Mike

Thanks for the heads-up, Casey. I've been scammed before, and I've known many others that have also been scammed. Anyone one of us would have reacted the same when it comes to our children, so don't worry about being top deck or whatever. My 16-year-old daughter was in an ATV accident a few weeks ago, and I didn't know what to expect when I went to see her in the emergency room. That was terrifying, so I can relate in that way.

Hi Casey.

So sorry you experienced this frightening scam.  I have already seen news reports on this type of phone scam whereby AI is used to clone someone's voice, and parents or grandparents are called with an urgent message requesting money.  Artificial Intelligence has allowed scammers to get better and better.  Yes, we all need to be aware and on the alert.

Forgive me if I have put this topic in the wrong place. Dear family I am writing this to
inform you of the many scams that are going around, by mail, by phone, by computer.
About two weeks ago I had a phone call from someone who claimed to be my daughter
I really thought it was her, she was crying and said that she was in a car accident and
that she had a busted nose and lip, she said someone ran a stop sign and she hit them
broadside and that she really needed my help, she said that recently she had taken
some medicine that caused her blood alcohol to be a little high so the police took her
in( MY DAUGHTER IS NOT AN ALCOHOLIC) I believed everything she was telling me,
I am not the top  card in the deck, I guess you can tell that by the way I am writing
and I am not a spring chicken :)but I my love daughter and I would do almost anything
for her,she said a person would be calling my and let me know how I could help,and
she said not to tell anyone it would be an embarrassment to her.In about 15 min I
received a phone call from someone that represented my daughter, he ask if I lived
near my daughter I said no she lives in Ohio I live in Colorado, he said we can get her
out if we post a bond,the bond was 150,000,but we only have to put up 18500
he said if we paid that right away we could get her out within an hour, if not it would
be about two or three days,we don't want anyone to know about this not even the
the bank what the money was for,it could cause my daughter embarrassment,he
told me to call him as soon as I get the money,I said ok, I went to my bank to get
the money,in a friendly way they ask what it was for, I told them that I could not expose
what it was for,the clerk talked with someone above them, they were very nice to me,
and that this might be a scam, the supervisor suggest I call my daughter, I did,
I told her what was going on she had a good laugh.After I was supposed to have the
money I was to call the representative on what to do next, I called him and he said
to go to the court house call him when I get there he will tell me what to do.
I call him and told him this was a scam,and that someday he would face judgment.

                         BE ALERT- pray for one another
                 CASEY

Hi Damacjones, welcome to the forum. I think this might be what you are looking for.

https://bible-truths.com/lake3.html

Fire PURIFIES things of value which we do want to retain. The analogy is used in the Scriptures of purifying gold by fire to make it more beautiful and more valuable. Gold represents the highest doctrines of spiritual understanding such as the Love of God and the Sovereignty of God, and salvation of all.

Can anyone tell me if Ray had a paper or an email or a post on the highest principles of spiritual understanding? The Love of God, The Sovereignty of God and the Salvation of all.... I read this somewhere and I am thinking it was on Ray's site. Thanks all. Dmacjones

I have to remind myself all the time that everything comes from God.

And if there was a better way for God to accomplish his will in his creation he would do it that way.  And that is for us as individuals as well.

  Dennis

   



    Agreeded Pamela he is a very good at all he’s doing 😇


      God bless
      Wendy