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Title: Interesting Video
Post by: Craig on July 09, 2008, 08:56:18 AM
I found this video while searching for information on Bill Wiese (author of: "23 Minutes in Hell).
You might find this interesting as I did.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10G85aGz5IU

 
Ray
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: Craig on July 09, 2008, 09:00:49 AM
This is nothing more than christian pornography, terrible that people would attribute this type of idea to our loving Father.  Pastors and their followers do this every day.

"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Craig
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: Dave UK on July 09, 2008, 10:17:08 AM
No wonder Ray says that they 'despise the word of God'. They love  Fear, Hatred, every awful thing. I agree Craig it is Christian Pornography.

I should say it is Karen writing here, keep forgetting that I am on Dave's settings.
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: Samson on July 09, 2008, 10:47:34 AM
As Ray would Say, Brilliant,

                                     I thought that Dawn of the Dead had better acting. Prior to my introduction to the internet, I wasn't aware that this many people actually believed this type of thing, yes, Christian Pornography is the best Title for this show. Thankfully for the Grace of God, we don't believe such nonsense. I thank God for being delivered from such a misleading Doctrine of Demons.

                                     Do they ever produce a " near death experience " show depicting someone going to Heaven, it seems that their always going to Hell-fire, isn't anyone saved,  ;D ;D ;D.

                                         Samson
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: Akira329 on July 09, 2008, 08:44:04 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here(and somebody please catch me if I break it and fall)
But I believe If showed all the new slasher/gore movies like Saw and Hostel to Christian churches
they would use these movies as witnessing tools to testify to the realness of hell.

Antaiwan
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: Samson on July 09, 2008, 09:08:01 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here(and somebody please catch me if I break it and fall)
But I believe If showed all the new slasher/gore movies like Saw and Hostel to Christian churches
they would use these movies as witnessing tools to testify to the realness of hell.

Antaiwan

Yes Antaiwan,

                      That would be great dialogue and add suggestions to increase the level of horror, to increase their scare tactic effect.

                                                  Samson.
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: OBrenda on July 09, 2008, 11:08:37 PM
Did you guys read the comments that said that we were not to have sex or any earthly pleasues??
???(Hell Heaven Chastity God Saint Catholic Protestant Church) ???

What kind of minds create these imaginations?
What purpose would God have for doing that, with no end?
Sicccckkkkk!

I hope I don't have nightmares tonight :'(

Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: EKnight on July 09, 2008, 11:55:20 PM
I couldn't watch it after the first few minutes.

Eileen
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: indianabob on July 09, 2008, 11:58:05 PM
Regarding the video.  I watched it and some others on the same site.

Really sad that this propaganda is circulated among folks who are suseptible to it.
It would appear that Ken Hagin and Ken Copeland are up to their old tricks
scaring (scaming) gullible people into supporting them.  I notice that their wives and children and grandchildren are involved in the scam as well.  Are any of them innocent dupes?

Sorry to say it but there are some gullible people out there.
It matters not whether they are deceived by a preacher or by a crooked salesman, in many cases it seems that the victims are seeking unearned protection for themselves or seeking something for nothing, sort of a gamble.
 It seems that some people need to live on the edge and are going to be taken advantage of by someone.  I wonder what we can do about it if anything.  They seem to need someone to do their thinking for them.
Maybe this is why politicians go after votes in the manner that we observe.  They must believe that the average person just can't handle their own affairs and needs a care taker.

Any comments, Indiana bob
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: frecklegirl417 on July 10, 2008, 02:24:30 PM
Hello everyone,

           I just watched a few minutes of this video and the only thing I had on my mind was is the director from Texas Chainsaw Horror movies with leather face. I really feel for the people who believe this will happen to them. I am glad to know the real truth. What about videos that show what happens to us when are hearts are open to the truth?
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: Dave in Tenn on July 10, 2008, 03:21:54 PM
What about videos that show what happens to us when are hearts are open to the truth?

How can a person make a buck with that?  I mean, next you'll be suggesting sermons on the importance of loving ones' enemies.  People like war movies, horror flicks, comedies, fantasy, love stories, and porno.   ;) ;)

To be serious, however you can bear witness to the goodness of God is a good thing, whether its on a YouTube video or not.  Do you have a camera?   
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: OBrenda on July 10, 2008, 04:59:45 PM
Sozo...should post his video's in reply to this trash!
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: ellie77 on July 11, 2008, 12:22:16 AM
Hmmmm.I wont watch this.My computor is too slow to do it and the comments are enough.
       There might not be videos en masse on going to heaven,but if you take a demented walk through the fantasy world of the supposed" New Age movement" you get to make up any Heaven you like to go to when you die. You can also change it to anything you like at anytime and people your heaven with whoever you like.
       After that adventure you can then come back to earth,after a consult "with the masters " on what you need to learn next time and who your parents  will be.
       You then go down a cosmic slide of light and end up in your new mummy's tummy.Slowly,after being born into this dense vibration of earth you forget all your past lives and the fun you had in Heaven.
        Don't forget that you are perfectly free to make up your own God(who is often female) or adopt one that is made up or channelled by a spiritual adept,who is making a fortune from books and seminars.These seminars are a great help in getting you out of your perpetual state of confusion because you forgot your past lives.
        You will remember eventually. After consulting with clairvoyants,psychics,reading a hundred books on spiritual development, going to at least 45 seminars,having 78 healing sessions,past life regression and spending a fortune.If you cant afford it because you have not done the right course on abundance you get to make it all up. You end up a winner either way.
      No belief in hell,that's old hat.If you are having a tough time or" woe",suffering,you have done something to someone in a past life(naughty) or it's .....yes you guessed it....Karma.... So then you go and do another course on getting off the wheel  of life and have 21 more healings.
      Heaven is really supposed to here on earth.. .now...so if you are not super intelligent..rolling in money....living the life of your dreams...have the man/woman that is your true soulmate and you haven't yet met your twin flame, following a guru or discovered that you are your own guru..well.......I know this really good seminar..and there is this really cool book....... :(
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: OBrenda on July 11, 2008, 09:28:35 AM
Ellie,

Never could wrap my mind around, why someone would choice/want to come back after experiencing Heaven!
 :-\   I never thought about it before, but I guess their religion is just as greedy huh?
 ::)
Brenda
Title: Re: Interesting Video
Post by: Akira329 on July 11, 2008, 02:45:09 PM
I asked myself long ago what the purpose for Hell was.
I could not find in scripture nor come up with any valid reason why so I just stopped questioning it
and accepted it for what it was. How deceived I was. Looking back I can't believe I believed some of the things I believed!