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=> General Discussions => Topic started by: skydreamers on March 10, 2007, 12:32:41 AM
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Thanks a whole lot Diana :)
I am not an E-Sword user, prefering to use Blue Letter Bible and my hard copy bibles.
I have E-Sword so I will have to install and learn it. :)
I might have some questions so be ready.....
Love,
Darren
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Thanks Diana...
Have you happened to find Wigrams Concordance in electronic form for use from the internet? I rarely use books anymore and have not been able to find Wigrams for my computer yet.
Thanks!
Bobby
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Hi Bobby,
I know, I'd love to have Wigrams on my computer too! Unfortunately I have not had much luck finding it either. Certainly if I do ever come across it I'll share with you guys...
Peace,
Diana
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Hi everyone
I use esword also , but I'm more interested in Wigrams and the Concordant OT .They both seem as rare as hen's teeth over here in the UK, does anyone know where I can source these ? I've tried Amazon but could only get a paperback version of the CLNT
Thanks
Dave UK
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Dave,
Just making sure you have this link:
http://www.concordant.org/
That has at least the version that can be read online and ordered in book form as well.
I also use this tool:
http://www.scripture4all.org/
which does have the concordant version... as well as it is an interlinear.
Also... this tool http://www.crosswire.org/sword/software/index.jsp is the best I've found for Rotherham's Emphasized Bible.
Bobby
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Hi Dave,
This is a link Andy gave us a while back that I got the Concordant Literal Version from.
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I've made the CLV complete with Old and New testaments available for download.
Just unzip it and copy it into your "c:\Program Files\e-Sword" folder.
This is the complete bible and not just the new testament.
Here's the link:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/fda2551f-b10e-464e-9d77-226836b3e9a8/clv.zip
Andy
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mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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Thanks Kat and Bobby
some useful tools there. I've tried emailing Concordant a couple of times but they didn't reply
Dave
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Thanks Kat and Bobby
some useful tools there. I've tried emailing Concordant a couple of times but they didn't reply
Dave
Concordant is mostly a one man operation and that one man has been sick for the last few months.
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Hey Diana, Thanks for the zip file with all those hard to find Bible translations!
It's great to finally have them for my e-sword!
Kat and (Andy) thanks for the link for downloading CLV complete with Old and New testaments.
I've had CLV NT but not the OT. Thanks!
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Hey Paula, your welcome! Glad to be of help. Also I wanted to thank you for the kind words that you posted elsewhere...can't remember where now...but thanks so much. You guys are all so welcoming and kind. This forum is such a blessing. I'd like to be able to post more but I can barely keep up with all you guys!!! Okay, I guess I have somewhat of an excuse when I have a 2 yr old and a 5 yr old to run after! Plus a husband who does not give up attention on him very easily. (Right now there's a hockey game on so I've stolen a moment!)
Oh boy, he just came over and saw my pic.....he's giving me a hard time for putting up a picture of me and our dog (who follows me wherever I go....he is my first baby, what can I say!) He can't believe I didn't at least put my children up there...haha....I'm such a bad mom....)
Anyways, I'll stop babbling now about something that has nothing to do with this thread.................. :-[ ;D
Peace,
Diana
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All:
2 things to say on this item. One good. One not so good...
:)(The good one) First, I've been using e-Sword for quite some time and have made more than a few files (bible & topic notes etc). I would like to offer to all of you a "Topic Note" file that contains the entire "Lake of Fire" series with complete linking to all listed Bible verses. I have shared this with a few members at BibleTruths and they have gotten some use out of it. I recommend it to new and old members to BibleTruths. With it new users can "mouse over" any instance of Ray's quoting of a verse and instantly see that he is actually quoting correctly and jump to the verse, too. Old users can use it to search for words very quickly and not just get a "hit" pointing to an entire section of the series, but instead, a specific portion with the search word hi-lighted.
:-\(The not so good item) Don't want to hurt anybody's feelings here... And I'm sure that it was done unintentiionally.... But with good intentions.... (Have I said enough? :-\) But... (Here it comes.) More than a few of the files being shared in this post are copyrighted and thus not allowed to be shared this way. (That's the reason we don't find them available from Rick Meyers, creator of e-Sword.) They can be purchased. Or made via the right tools.
:-X I hope that everyone understands that I will not "tell" on anyone for this, but this has been weighing on my mind for a couple of days and I came to the conclusion that I owe it to all of you to share my knowledge e-Sword (use and utilities) and the "not so good item," too.
So feel free to ask about the Lake of Fire series "Topic Note" for e-Sword or even how to create your own Bible files or whatever... Rick Meyers is very helpful and responds very quickly if you want to go to the source...
Ward
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Hey Ward, oh boy, I think you must be talking about me so I've removed my post. I can't say for sure where I got all my modules, some from thechan website and some from other forums with e-sword users. They were posted up there for anyone to download so I did not double-check about copyrights etc. assuming they were free to share. I know some programmers are developing modules on their own (like at thechan) so is this even legal?
My apologies to everyone. I didn't realize that I was doing anything wrong and only wanted to help. I respectfully and appreciatively thank you Ward for pointing this out!!! BIG OOPS...sorry guys.
Peace, Diana
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I can't say for sure where I got all my modules, some from thechan website and some from other forums with e-sword users.
Same here... I learned how to make the files I've made from info on thechan and from several groups that I belong to.
I know some programmers are developing modules on their own (like at thechan) so is this even legal?
I can't answer this question myself. Others seem to be in a quandry on this also. Somebody wrote out a lengthy message about this very subject. The summary of his message was that if you at least owned a copy (paper i.e. a book) of the version you were using then maybe its OK. Or maybe if you used an online version that is available (meaning that the site has been given the right to make it available) to anybody and made your own BBL file out of it. (Notice all those "maybe's"?)
I really don't have a clue. That's my real answer.
Like you, I was really happy to find and make BBLs. The first thing I wanted to do was share them here. Then the years of being part of the publishing and online publishing business popped into my mind and so.... I didn't.
Maybe I have made a big deal out of nothing. I just decided that I needed to bring it to others attention. Especially since Ray's name is associated with this site and his detractors might try to use this against him.
??? Hey... Somebody tell me if I should just delete my previous post and not worry about it. I won't be offended. BUT my offer of the "Lake of Fire" series Topic Notes files still stands to anybody who wants it.
Ward
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Hey Ward, I totally want your "Lake of Fire" topic notes..it sounds awesome! Can you post it here? If not and it's easier to e-mail, let me know and I'll pm you my email address...I'm sure others would want it too...in fact you should maybe start your own thread and the moderators can just delete this thread entirely!!
Maybe I have made a big deal out of nothing.
I don't think you made a big deal out of nothing! You have to do what you feel convicted in your mind/heart to do. There's too many times I've ignored that "feeling" and regretted it afterward. Besides, you were looking out for Ray's name and that's cool! We all have to look out for each other, as brothers and sisters...
Peace and God Bless,
Diana
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All:
2 things to say on this item. One good. One not so good...
:)(The good one) First, I've been using e-Sword for quite some time and have made more than a few files (bible & topic notes etc). I would like to offer to all of you a "Topic Note" file that contains the entire "Lake of Fire" series with complete linking to all listed Bible verses.
So feel free to ask about the Lake of Fire series "Topic Note" for e-Sword or even how to create your own Bible files or whatever... Rick Meyers is very helpful and responds very quickly if you want to go to the source...
Ward
Hi Ward,
I, too, am interested in the LOF Topic Note file for esword and how to create my own Bible files. That would be great!
Thanks for offering it! I'm not sure what to say about the other esword files offered. I'll have to look into it. I know there are several online sources that use these translations.
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Diana & Paula (and anybody else that is interested):
Here is a link to the "Lake of Fire" series "Topic Note" for e-Sword that I created sometime ago. I will be updating this as Ray adds more sections to the series. (Please make sure to read section - 00.01 ReadMe within the "Topic Note")
http://www.mediafire.com/?35eytdtitez (http://www.mediafire.com/?35eytdtitez)
----- UPDATE AVAILABLE - See Below 3/24/07 ----
To use the file within e-Sword,
1. unzip it and place the resulting file, "Lake of Fire Series - L Ray Smith 3-20-07.top," in the e-Sword subdirectory, ex. c:\Program Files\e-Sword\.
2. start e-Sword,
3. in the "Commentary" section of e-Sword, select the "Topic Notes" tab,
4. use the "Commentary" drop-down menu at the bottom of the screen,
5. select "Lake of Fire Series - L. Ray Smith 3-20-07.top"
6. then use the "Topic Box" (drop-down) at the top of the "Commentary" section to jump to whaterever portion of the series you desire. Its right next to the Diskette icon for saving.
Let me know if you have questions, comments, or suggestions...
\/\/ard ;)
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Wow, Ward THANK YOU so much for this....how did you do that? Was it a lot of work? Super cool! Muchly and greatly appreciated!
Peace and God Bless,
Diana
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Ward,
I'm with Dianna on all the WOW"s ;D
That's awesome!!
Your effort will be a great help to many, me included :)
Love,
Darren
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Thank you Ward!
I am downloading it now.
I appreciate it! :)
I'm sure it will be a blessing.
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Ward,
Thanks brother for this, it's a great help.
Dwight
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Thanks Diana...
Have you happened to find Wigrams Concordance in electronic form for use from the internet? I rarely use books anymore and have not been able to find Wigrams for my computer yet.
Thanks!
Bobby
install the King James Concordance. You can get it free at e-swords site
(http://www.e-sword.net/files/dictionaries/kjc.exe)
It does the same thing as the wigrams.
Bill
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----- UPDATED "Lake of Fire" Series "Topic Note" AVAILABLE -----
As I indicated to the people I shared this file with last summer ('06), I will be updating the "Lake of Fire" Series "Topic Note" file as Ray updates the Bibe-Truth.com website. Please use the following link to access the updated file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cnn5n5wgmdk (http://www.mediafire.com/?cnn5n5wgmdk)
New Title/Filename: Lake of Fire Series - L Ray Smith - thru 16D1 3-23-07.top
I realize that many of you may just wait until part 16D is completed to get the updated file. That's fine, but I thought I would release the updates as I complete them.
If you are not able to access the link listed above please feel free to let me know and I will email the file to you directly.
Please feel free to share any ideas, comments, or problems.
Hope this is useful to some, :-\
\/\/ard
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Hi Folks,
The Concordant Version is currently being revised. I spoke with Jim Coram some months ago about a few things in the CLV and he told me that they were revising it in some areas and intend to make it one complete volume (it's only avaliable in several seperate volumes at present). The problem they have is the lack of competent persons to do the translating and checking. The principle persons who carried out the work have passed on and I think there's only one person who can tackle the Hebrew scriptures, so it's taking some time to complete.
I compiled the e-sword version of the CLV with Jim Coram's permission. It needs some tidying up as it required several text conversions to get it into the e-sword format correctly, and this conversion added speech quotes onto the end of every line. I have not been able to write a macro that will remove them without it removing some that should stay, so it is a manual job requiring the removal of thousands and thousands of them.
When the full version of the Concordant Bible is available, I'll ask Jim if I can recompile it and make it available, and if he permits, I'll gladly do it. Hopefully the process will be much smoother by using a python script to convert all the unusual symbols and text codes the CPC use in their version of the Bible and thus avoid some of the conversion problems I've had.
If anyone has any ideas then please share as the Concordant Scriptures are a very useful tool in following the 'pattern of sound words', but it ain't perfect, there is the odd little bit of interpretation sneaking in where it's not necessary, for example,
- "which we are speaking also, not with words taught by human wisdom, but with those taught by the spirit, matching spiritual blessings with spiritual words" (1 Cor 2:13)
"blessings" and "words" are not in the original Greek, and there is no reason at all to put them there as it should really read, "matching spiritual, spiritual", or "spiritual with spiritual". Always pays to check the original languages as it really opens up the scriptures and their meaning.
Here's a little something for you's to get your teeth into, first some scriptures from the KJV,
- "Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device" (Ac 17:29)
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Ro 1:20)
"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col 2:9)
What is the Greek word translated Godhead, and what is the difference between diety, divinity and divine? Should keep you chewing for a little while.
Love, grace and peace to you
Nelson