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While I do not believe in Hell, I am playing Devils advocate with this post.
According to basic Christian theology, we (we being believers) are responsible to evangelize the world and we will be held accountable for those that we do not spread the word to.
The reasons why we fail at evangelizing the world are many, complacency, fear, lack of care, not willing to sacrifice (whatever it would take) money, time, etc.
Once during my church going days I had a thought about just how terrible I was at witnessing, how thoughtless I was to feel great about my salvation while those I failed to witness to are either burning in hell forever or simply eternally separated from God doomed to an eternal sorrow and regret.
Sorry, Christians, the appeal to emotion to trivialize eternal separation from God by saying it is not "torture" but eternal sorrow have NO clue the torture depression really is. So to say separation from God would not be torture is pathetic.
With that said, If hell is real, and I have failed loved ones and friends and a stranger on the street, then I choose to be with those I failed.
My prayer is that God send me to hell too, because if I failed them and there is no mercy for those I failed from the "LOVING" God. Then I cannot with good conscience allow myself eternal bliss.
I choose Hell
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LOL, I remember when I too was a citizen of the nation of Christendom and spoke christianeze a language of self contradiction.
I have a couple of verses that I like to quote to these Christian's who insist that 1) Hell is eternal separation from God and 2) that you choose to go there!
Rev 14:10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Rev 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Is it just me who thinks this is funny?
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Hi phazel,
I see your point and agree as there was a time (even though I really was never convinced about hell being real) when if given the choice of spending eternity with what I knew and felt about the overtly religeous folks in their version of heaven and the the every day unreligeous sinners I dealt with in my day to day life, hell whatever it might entail would have been a no brainer choice for me.
Not that I hated the religeous folks I just found them tedious and boring for the most part, not that I loved all the characters I dealt with through the years at least I could usually find a way relate to them or at least respect their bounderies as they respected mine, if that did not work we could battle, I accepted that.
I was never able to feel comfortable in church, when I was there I could not wait to leave, I really can't remember ever thinking, "gee the service is over already? Where did the time go? That was great!" I was always anxious to be out the door. There was one point when I went along willingly but that was very, very shortlived. My time in church was to satisfy other people never as an obligation I could feel was from God, the spirit in all the different churches I attended did not seem to be agreeable to me, I really did feel like an outcast, doomed from the very start and it went downhill from there! ;)
You know when I attend a BT Conference just the opposite feeling encompasses me, the Spirit is strong, the fellowship is incredible and the presentations are fantastic, I really do not like seeing them come to an end. Nashville will be my 5th Conference and I am already more than anxious for September to roll around, I have never, ever felt this way about any denominational (or non denominational) gathering. That is just me though, I know others have had some good experiences and good friendships in churches but that was not my own personal experience, looking back to the churches is at least one temptation I will not have to deal with, I have plenty more to take it's place though! :P
His Peace to you,
Joe
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Hey Joe, I can really relate to your church experience.
Church for me was like a going for a walk in a pair of shoes that were 2 sizes to small.
very uncomfortable, go back into Babylon will never be high on my list of temptations either.
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A scripture that I am always reminded of when they start talking about hell is this.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.
Peace,
Steve
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Hey Martinez,
Understood! ;)
I have to ask you though to please elaborate a bit on the verses you quoted previously, sorry to say I missed your point.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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A scripture that I am always reminded of when they start talking about hell is this.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.
Peace,
Steve
I think that verse gives so much credibility to the proper translation being "Grave". God is in hell?
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A scripture that I am always reminded of when they start talking about hell is this.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.
Peace,
Steve
Amen Steve!
Excellent observation, according to the Christian dogma "hell is eternal separation from God" how can they make this verse fit?
Oh, that's right, it must be "out of context!" ::)
Isn't it comforting to know that even as we and our Brothers, Sisters and loved ones are "sleeping" He is still with us?
His Peace to you,
Joe
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A scripture that I am always reminded of when they start talking about hell is this.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.
Peace,
Steve
I think that verse gives so much credibility to the proper translation being "Grave". God is in hell?
Yep!
So true
Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell,7585 behold, thou art there.
H7585
שׁאל שׁאול
she'ôl she'ôl
sheh-ole', sheh-ole'
From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates: - grave, hell, pit.
Imagine the storm if you were to stand up and quote this verse in a traditional Christian church, "hey folks, it looks like God is in hell too, maybe it isn't so hopeless after all!"
Peace,
Joe
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Hey Martinez,
Understood! ;)
I have to ask you though to please elaborate a bit on the verses you quoted previously, sorry to say I missed your point.
His Peace to you,
Joe
Sorry, what I mean is Christians like to come up with verses of the bible that supposedly support their belief in Hell, but quite often they cite verses that contradict other verses that supposedly support their doctrine of Hell fire.
They will say that Hell is separation from God, but they will give you Rev 14:10 to show you that the bible!
Well tell then how it is possible for someone to be eternally separated from God whilst being tortured in fire froever in fire?
I know what they would say because I've heard them say it before "with God all things are possible"
LOL!
They will also say that God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there, but then in the other breath quote Rev 20:15 which shows people being thrown into the Lake of fire!
If they had chosen willingly to go there then why do they need to be thrown?
how come it doesn't talk about them marching into the Lake of fire if they chose to go willingly?
Are you with me now?
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They will also say that God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there
I heard someone say just yesterday that not only do we choose to go to hell, but but because He loves us so much, God will not stop us from making that choice.
I am beginning to understand more, and in the process, I get very disgusted with these kinds of sayings.
Who am I to judge them though, I was once there too.
Thank you Lord for showing us the truth! :)
Matt
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They will also say that God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there
I heard someone say just yesterday that not only do we choose to go to hell, but but because He loves us so much, God will not stop us from making that choice.
I am beginning to understand more, and in the process, I get very disgusted with these kinds of sayings.
Who am I to judge them though, I was once there too.
Thank you Lord for showing us the truth! :)
Matt
Yeah, you make a good point Matthew. I feel the same way about not judging them. I have close friends who believe in the hell doctrine. One friend of mine knows where I stand, but we can still fellowship on what we do agree on. Maybe my speaking to him planted a seed - the Lord knows.
Peace,
Joe
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Concerning the title of this thread:
No, I don't choose to go to hell. I choose to choose as God intends me to choose at this time. I choose to mock those who believe such hatefull hell garbage.
They will also say that God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there
I heard someone say just yesterday that not only do we choose to go to hell, but but because He loves us so much, God will not stop us from making that choice.
I am beginning to understand more, and in the process, I get very disgusted with these kinds of sayings.
Who am I to judge them though, I was once there too.
Thank you Lord for showing us the truth! :)
Matt
I would tell that person: If a child wanted to run out into the road should the parent respect that child's wish?
Oh, and Joe, I have some hell believing friends whom I would like to shove the truth down their throats. Unfortunately, they rarely bring up the subject so I don't feel welcomed to bring it up. I seriously lack the understanding of people who believe that doctrine.
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Amen and Amen my dear brothers! HELL...What a deception for the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of 'believers' who are in our world today! I have heard each and everyone of these arguments from the christians and it just makes me ill to know that they have bought into the greatest lie that satan has ever perpetrated onto this human race, (and from the beginning of time!) I am astounded at these ppl and how little they really do know their Bible and HIM! (Yes, I too was there, so I understand them and therefore have pitty on those who are seriously trying to learn biblical truths... (for those who are NOT serious and who do not want the truths...I want to just come down hard on them, but, most of the time the Holy Spirit has me to be gentle with them or to not even bring up the HELL subject since they are so unwilling to change. I have never been able to come down very harshly with anyone on this subject yet; but I have been able to share with deep compassion on a few occassions...
Very good correlations here Phazel!
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Hello Martinez
I get your point about Christians presenting the Scriptures as CONTRADICTING and then breezing over what THEY do not understand. They say they understand by FAITH and carry on accepting their interpretations and beliefs in Hell, and Free Will.
I too was once with such a crowd. I too, like you Joe, never really was quenched of the thirst and hunger of my soul and often felt the pain they believe to be justified. If there was a Hell, it is the Christian that is manufacturing it!
Understanding these folks is like trying to understand insanity! That's a no through road! :D ;D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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HI everyone,
I never cease to feel grateful and thankful for the truth and the subjects that are discussed here. I so felt like "that" in church, always one foot out the door,mentality. So glad when it happened. Just yesterday I was reading an article,in our local paper on all the news by a pastor of one of our Church's,all good news and encouragement. Then right at the bottom,in the proverbial "fine print" was written "Those that don't know Jesus will go to hell".The name of the church is Grace church. Nathan,my son always called it disgrace church.I can not help but totally agree with him.Horrible insanity.
Blessings, Ellie....
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Hey Martinez,
Understood! ;)
I have to ask you though to please elaborate a bit on the verses you quoted previously, sorry to say I missed your point.
His Peace to you,
Joe
Sorry, what I mean is Christians like to come up with verses of the bible that supposedly support their belief in Hell, but quite often they cite verses that contradict other verses that supposedly support their doctrine of Hell fire.
They will say that Hell is separation from God, but they will give you Rev 14:10 to show you that the bible!
Well tell then how it is possible for someone to be eternally separated from God whilst being tortured in fire froever in fire?
I know what they would say because I've heard them say it before "with God all things are possible"
LOL!
They will also say that God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there, but then in the other breath quote Rev 20:15 which shows people being thrown into the Lake of fire!
If they had chosen willingly to go there then why do they need to be thrown?
how come it doesn't talk about them marching into the Lake of fire if they chose to go willingly?
Are you with me now?
Thanks for the clarification Martinez, I am there. ;)
His Peace to you,
Joe
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HI everyone,
I never cease to feel grateful and thankful for the truth and the subjects that are discussed here. I so felt like "that" in church, always one foot out the door,mentality. So glad when it happened. Just yesterday I was reading an article,in our local paper on all the news by a pastor of one of our Church's,all good news and encouragement. Then right at the bottom,in the proverbial "fine print" was written "Those that don't know Jesus will go to hell".The name of the church is Grace church. Nathan,my son always called it disgrace church.I can not help but totally agree with him.Horrible insanity.
Blessings, Ellie....
Ha ha LOL!
I know of a similar thin where a church sent out tracts into the comunity (small town up the road) and it said something like, "if you don't repent and follow Jesus you are going to go to Hell"
The people who were telling us about this are friends of my wife's and ordinary Hell fire Christians.
they were complaining about it saying that that was a terrible thing to say and you would more likely cause people turn away from Jesus, but when I tried to tell them the good news (the actual good news) they were not happy about that either!
Go figure?
I don't understand Christians anymore!
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Hey Joe, I can really relate to your church experience.
Church for me was like a going for a walk in a pair of shoes that were 2 sizes to small.
very uncomfortable, go back into Babylon will never be high on my list of temptations either.
Not just the "teachings" ::) but those butt-numbing pews make me anxious to get out.
I wonder if they got the idea of those from The Inquisition?
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Hey Joe, I can really relate to your church experience.
Church for me was like a going for a walk in a pair of shoes that were 2 sizes to small.
very uncomfortable, go back into Babylon will never be high on my list of temptations either.
Not just the "teachings" ::) but those butt-numbing pews make me anxious to get out.
I wonder if they got the idea of those from The Inquisition?
Not mention those mind numbing sermons!
I think the order of numbness would be thus....
Butt: this makes easier sit there and listen to some guy up on the pulpit blatantly contradicting himself.
Mind: after this goes, you no longer think for yourself, you just blurt out the pre programmed christian responses that your pastor gives.
Conscience: once this goes, it's all over!, you actually take acception to someone telling you that God is not a bumbling buffoon who intends to torture most of humanity in unspeakable agony for all eternity!
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I hear ya! I call those numbing sessions "DBS" (DEAD BUTT SYNDROME), LOL ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Hi phazel :)
While I do not believe in Hell.
According to basic Christian theology, we (we being believers) are responsible to evangelize the world and we will be held accountable for those that we do not spread the word to.
The reasons why we fail at evangelizing the world are many, complacency, fear, lack of care, not willing to sacrifice (whatever it would take) money, time, etc.
Once during my church going days I had a thought about just how terrible I was at witnessing, how thoughtless I was to feel great about my salvation while those I failed to witness to are either burning in hell forever or simply eternally separated from God doomed to an eternal sorrow and regret.
Sorry, Christians, the appeal to emotion to trivialize eternal separation from God by saying it is not "torture" but eternal sorrow have NO clue the torture depression really is. So to say separation from God would not be torture is pathetic.
trish here.
I can sympathize :'( with what you are saying, and separation from God and his presence or place of peace/love/ and rest
in him, well I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.......those who don't know Jesus or have a personal relationship with God
Are suffering....torments of, just to name afew..fear..sickness..diseases..depression..opression..demon possession.
experiencing these kinds of torments can seem to those without God's presence, may seem like eternal torture and weather
we like it or not reality is people do live their lives in darkness..we have an enemy who does torment or torture lost souls or
unsaved....I think sometimes we can for get where we came from before ever having any kind of relationship with God,
going through some sort of calamity....I personally am grieved at some of the response on here...seems insensitive and numb.
I agree with you we are accountable if we do anything or if we don't, and i am reminded of what God will say to us on the
day we stand before him;
(matt 25:34,35-40)
Then the King will say to those on his right, "Come, you who are blessed by my Father;
take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.
for I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you
invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.
then the righteous will answer him, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink,
when did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you, when did we see you sick and in prison and
go to visit you; The King will reply, ' I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did
for me.
May the Holy Spirit comfort you, your not alone and he understands and knows your heart, I share your tears and heart felt...If
I am grieved at some of the unsupportive response here then i am sure the holy spirit is too....let not your heart be troubled :(
May God truthly Bless you in every way!!
trish ;)
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With respect, Trish, you left out in your quotation the OP's words "I am playing Devils advocate with this post."
While you may be able to sympathize with what you think he is saying, you are misunderstanding or misrepresenting what he actually was saying.
"Sorry, Christians, the appeal to emotion to trivialize eternal separation from God by saying it is not "torture" but eternal sorrow have NO clue the torture depression really is. So to say separation from God would not be torture is pathetic." is speaking of the attempt by churches to make Hell more palatable by calling it 'eternal separation' rather than eternal torment. So he's pointing out the inherent contradiction in that Doctrine of "basic Christian theology". To simply concieve of a sort of Hell-light to make the churches' message more palatable flies in the face of logic when one understands what an eternity of seperation from God would be like.
In truth, there is no eternity and there will be no ultimate seperation, with or without torture. Therefor the churches message is flawed at best and hateful of God at worst.
Understanding that, there was no 'insensitive or numb' or 'unsupportive comment' made in reply to his post. He wasn't expressing any depression...he was taken aback by the contradiction. From that, he got full support.
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thank you Dave in Tenn :)
for your reply and clarification of that, really appreciate your input
however i have read several post here and it still grieves me of some
of the responses, that of others who don't read between lines, i am
specking metaphorically of other responses on this forum Dave, but
thank you for clearing that up. ;)
bless you Dave.
trish.
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Phazel.
Ray has proved beyond any doubt that hell is Christendom propaganda. Ray has proved this using many scriptures. I was a big time believer as a Roman Catholic in the hell doctrine.
People may live in fear of this all there life but in the end they will discover they had not been told the truth.
Besides, we don’t save ourselves or anyone else only God can do this. All will be eventually saved. :)
In His Love. Richard.
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I was in hell for 13 years......... but the divorce ended that torture. :D
Love in Christ
Longhorn
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;D ;D Hey Longhorn, good one!
Interesting thread to re read.
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Funny Longhorn!!! ;D ;D ;D
We can benefit sometimes from re-reading old posts.
Iris
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Roger,
Thank you for the clarification on the OP. The scriptures you quote are very appropriate for this day (time period) as it
appears the wolves are circling outside; while the roaring Lion is already inside seeking whom he may devour. We are
indeed receiving Great elucidation of the Scriptures in this Time and Place. Meat and Milk are being served up together;
so the meat eaters must jealously guard the flock. I have read many of your posts and discerned that protecting the
flock is what you are about. Admonition is hard to accept for most; especially when delivered unvarnished but, the
Scriptures below are ample evidence of (what saith the Scriptures).
Ezekiel 38:7:
Be you prepared, and prepare for yourself, you, and all your company that are assembled to you, and be you a guard to them.
Matthew 7:15:
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 10:16:
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the middle of wolves: be you therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Acts 20:29:
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
In Thanks and praise of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
George.
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Ezekiel 38:7:
Be you prepared, and prepare for yourself, you, and all your company that are assembled to you, and be you a guard to them.
George.
Tis......i hope to be....anything less, anything more is by the Grace and Will of God.
Peace
Rodger
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Good post! It's too bad the most self-proclaimed "Christians" never stop and think about these things. Their pride barrier is so high that they cannot see the foolishness.
Funny thing, since I "came out of Babylon", I have shared my new beliefs, with my wife, a few family members and friends. Though, so far they all agree with what I've showed them, several times they've asked me to go to Church with them.
My wife was upset with me this past Mother's Day because I refused to go to her Church, even after she said "do it for me, please?" :o
But I told her that if I went, that I most likely would speak out, and if I know anything for sure, I know that there is no such thing as "free speech" in Church! :D
Though, I have been tempted to go to my old Church one day, and speak out, just to see what happens, ... if they would listen, or cast me out like Jesus and the Apostles were many times. Guess if it's GOD'S Will, then one day I may... 8)
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Good post! It's too bad the most self-proclaimed "Christians" never stop and think about these things. Their pride barrier is so high that they cannot see the foolishness.
Funny thing, since I "came out of Babylon", I have shared my new beliefs, with my wife, a few family members and friends. Though, so far they all agree with what I've showed them, several times they've asked me to go to Church with them.
My wife was upset with me this past Mother's Day because I refused to go to her Church, even after she said "do it for me, please?" :o
But I told her that if I went, that I most likely would speak out, and if I know anything for sure, I know that there is no such thing as "free speech" in Church! :D
Though, I have been tempted to go to my old Church one day, and speak out, just to see what happens, ... if they would listen, or cast me out like Jesus and the Apostles were many times. Guess if it's GOD'S Will, then one day I may... 8)
make sure you bring a cushion too land on when you're tossed out. ;D
Rodger
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I was in hell for 13 years......... but the divorce ended that torture. :D
Love in Christ
Longhorn
ok longhorn, now that was funny.
claudia
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just a sidebar to the post by trish. in your post trish you said that "those who don't know Jesus or have a personal relationship with God are suffering...torments of, just to name a few...fear, sickness, diseases, depression, oppression" (i purposely left out the demon possession one). even people who know Jesus and have a personal relationship with God (and have been shown by God the Truth of His Word) are going through torments, trials, tribulations, sufferings of "fear, sickness, diseases, depression, oppression, etc. ".
claudia
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Phazel
I could not help but to reflect that I also heard it more than once how God does not send people to hell, people send themselves there. And you’re post reminded me of this fact. Evangelist also believes it’s up to them to save people.
Like Ray says, if evangelist gets a flat tire on the way, someone might end up in hell. That’s just ridiculous when you think about it.
I’m so thankful I’m not apart of that garbage any longer. The more I think of Christendom in contrast to the truth, I believe the religious leaders should all be arrested and put into prison the rest of their lives for teaching such heresy as their hell doctrine.
Seeing where you say you don’t believe in hell but are playing the Devils advocate be God’s advocate and give Bible truths .com address to as many as possible and help expose those who contradict. ;)
In His Love. Richard.
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Ray also teaches,
Remember always as we attempt to enlighten those whom God is calling, that we are NO BETTER than those whose doctrines we condemn. God loves and DIED for these heretics of the modern Church. They are precious to God—and they had better be PRECIOUS TO US, or we too will receive a great condemnation for feeling anything but LOVE TOWARD THEM! They may be, in fact, our enemies, but Christ instructs us to: "…LOVE YOUR ENEMIES"!! [Ray Smith]
Peace
Chris R
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Ray also teaches,
Remember always as we attempt to enlighten those whom God is calling, that we are NO BETTER than those whose doctrines we condemn. God loves and DIED for these heretics of the modern Church. They are precious to God—and they had better be PRECIOUS TO US, or we too will receive a great condemnation for feeling anything but LOVE TOWARD THEM! They may be, in fact, our enemies, but Christ instructs us to: "…LOVE YOUR ENEMIES"!! [Ray Smith]
Peace
Chris R
Oh absolutely Chris, Thanks for this reminder.
I needed it.
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Hello, I cannot add much more then this. Except when I believed in Hell. I had a sin that I felt could not be forgiven. And, from that sin I felt like I was in hell. I was then delivered from the sin and led to truth. Well, he burnt that nasty sin
of believe of Hell and nasty belive of his character. He led me to truth when I read Rays messages with scripture to back it up, and not just one but two or more witness like all should do when trying to show the truth. Yes, I was let out of the Hell my mind had me in. I sure love not being a prisoner any more.
Love You All
Marlene
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Concerning the title of this thread:
No, I don't choose to go to hell. I choose to choose as God intends me to choose at this time. I choose to mock those who believe such hatefull hell garbage.
They will also say that God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there
I heard someone say just yesterday that not only do we choose to go to hell, but but because He loves us so much, God will not stop us from making that choice.
I am beginning to understand more, and in the process, I get very disgusted with these kinds of sayings.
Who am I to judge them though, I was once there too.
Thank you Lord for showing us the truth! :)
Matt
I would tell that person: If a child wanted to run out into the road should the parent respect that child's wish?
Oh, and Joe, I have some hell believing friends whom I would like to shove the truth down their throats. Unfortunately, they rarely bring up the subject so I don't feel welcomed to bring it up. I seriously lack the understanding of people who believe that doctrine.
I second that musicman
I dont choose hell i choose God to judge in righteousness. I choose God to save all like He is saving me--I dont deserve it, but Hes doing it for me and since He doesnt show partiality or favoritism He must save them too. Even Abraham expected this with Lot.
I choose righteousness to be done
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Good post! It's too bad the most self-proclaimed "Christians" never stop and think about these things. Their pride barrier is so high that they cannot see the foolishness.
Funny thing, since I "came out of Babylon", I have shared my new beliefs, with my wife, a few family members and friends. Though, so far they all agree with what I've showed them, several times they've asked me to go to Church with them.
My wife was upset with me this past Mother's Day because I refused to go to her Church, even after she said "do it for me, please?" :o
But I told her that if I went, that I most likely would speak out, and if I know anything for sure, I know that there is no such thing as "free speech" in Church! :D
Though, I have been tempted to go to my old Church one day, and speak out, just to see what happens, ... if they would listen, or cast me out like Jesus and the Apostles were many times. Guess if it's GOD'S Will, then one day I may... 8)
make sure you bring a cushion too land on when you're tossed out. ;D
Rodger
Haha.. great advice! :D