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Title: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Dennis Vogel on August 12, 2013, 10:25:32 AM
This article is about history and propaganda art around the world but the title fits religion really well.

Great title: "The Comfort of Mindless Obedience"

http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Faux-Propaganda-Art-337982218?roi=echo2-11337227550-3147795-d633ff5a312a9c5108500363da6b8b4d (http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Faux-Propaganda-Art-337982218?roi=echo2-11337227550-3147795-d633ff5a312a9c5108500363da6b8b4d)
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: dodrill on August 12, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
Thanks Dennis - I enjoyed
Brings to mind the quote from Voltaire - "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
If spirituality was left to the church - we would still be in the dark ages  ;D
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: jingle52 on August 12, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
In my opinion, the title fits politics as well... just comparing what is always promised and never delivered here in Italy.
Jingle
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: microlink on August 12, 2013, 11:51:25 PM
And today there is this continuing modern day propaganda that influences millions.
A recent book by Ben Shapiro entitled Primetime Propaganda reveals how modern day media pervades and influences the masses. I saw him interviwed recently on TV. I once thought that some media truth existed on TV stations but I no longer believe that. I have become cynical of most Media talk show hosts.
My opinion for what its worth.

[Edited by Dennis Vogel] We have rules about discussing politics on this forum. I do not want this thread to degenerate. No politics please.
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Dave in Tenn on August 13, 2013, 04:26:37 AM
There is none righteous...no, not one.
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: microlink on August 13, 2013, 11:40:21 AM
Thanks Dennis. Got it.  ;)
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Nathan on August 13, 2013, 04:13:53 PM
I'm not sure if the following is considered religious propaganda, based on the definition of the word, but it is an example of false imagery that has strongly influenced Christendom for five centuries. Apparently, the painter who painted this portrait of "Jesus" used Cesare Borgia as the model. Cesare was the son of Pope Alexander VI and lived in the late 1400's. 

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTelrpfcalJ61jltttAQUeugoop8fdG2BRQzjc_XXKXuMfAFvameQ)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Anon-Cesare-Borgia.jpg/220px-Anon-Cesare-Borgia.jpg)

This image has become a religious icon in Christendom and has spawned many other similar looking Jesus paintings. If you ask the average Christian who this painting depicts, they will unequivocally reply, "Jesus" - not, "an artists' depiction of Jesus" or most accurately "the polar opposite of what Christ actually looked like based on the prophetic description from the book of Isaiah."

Imagine the famous picture above, representing, possibly, the most handsome man who has ever lived, hanging on the wall with the following passage underneath it: "He hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not." (Isa. 53:2b,3)

 :o ??? ::)
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Rhys 🕊 on August 13, 2013, 05:56:44 PM
Do you mean this isn't the dude I've been worshipping

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u588/rhysos1/jesus3_zpsaa311ddc.jpg) (http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/rhysos1/media/jesus3_zpsaa311ddc.jpg.html)

With a smile like that how could it not be the real deal  ;D

Rhys
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Nathan on August 13, 2013, 07:09:19 PM
Quote
With a smile like that how could it not be the real deal  ;D

Rhys

That's funny Rhys.

By the way, you were great in Star Trek.

(http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=968;type=avatar)(http://s4.hubimg.com/u/8014099_100.jpg)

 8)

Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: cjwood on August 13, 2013, 09:22:51 PM
hahahaha nathan.  hilarious about rhys and star trek.  i do see the resemblance though.  rhys, going where no man has gone before...

claudia
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Rhys 🕊 on August 14, 2013, 03:08:53 AM
Haha.......but I'm a better actor............beam me up Spock  ;D
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: gregorydc on August 14, 2013, 08:47:15 AM
Rhys, did something happen to Scottie?  Spok only beamed you up if something bad happened to Scottie. I hope he is alright. Lol
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: onelovedread on August 14, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
By the way, you do know that JC was a dreadlocked man. ;D
But no form no comliness and most def, no respect. Hahaha
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: se7en on August 14, 2013, 02:01:58 PM
Hahahahaha Rhys!!!!!!! Your cracking me up!!! Buddy Jesus picture!!!

Leave it to us to go from this study of art in society and the lies thereof and relate it to the christian church...

Then...

BUDDY JESUS.

Hahahahaha Love it :)


And yes, I do see a very uncanny likeness to CPT Picard and Rhys!!!  Eeeeeerie!!!!  And Scottie was in sick bay recovering from a recent explosion that occured on the space cruise liner Phloston Paradise. So Spock indeed took over in the transporter room.  :)
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Nathan on August 14, 2013, 04:20:54 PM
Guys,

That wasn't an attempt at humor on my part. Rhys, I sincerely apologize for exposing your true identity, but trading in your red-and-black-spandex-celestial-space-suit for the earthy-green-and-black-terrestrial-suit you now wear, was a dead give away. If I would have known that you had moved to New Zealand to live out your days in peace under the pseudonym Rhys, I would never have outed you.

Again, my apologies.
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Rhys 🕊 on August 14, 2013, 05:46:39 PM
Haha all good. I try to keep things on the quiet these day. But when I can you will always find me at Star Trek conventions wearing so much spandex it would make anyone pass out.

And was Scottie most of the time. I'm sure Spock did sometimes.........anyway I just like the name Spock.

This video should put everything into perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE)

Rhys  ;)
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: microlink on August 14, 2013, 06:17:52 PM
Very catchy tune as wll! :)
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: se7en on August 14, 2013, 06:58:54 PM
I remember that song, but I don't ever remember seeing the video! haha!
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: Ian 155 on August 15, 2013, 04:40:15 PM
Do you mean this isn't the dude I've been worshipping

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u588/rhysos1/jesus3_zpsaa311ddc.jpg) (http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/rhysos1/media/jesus3_zpsaa311ddc.jpg.html)

With a smile like that how could it not be the real deal  ;D

Rhys
You Crack me up KIWI
Title: Re: The Comfort of Mindless Obedience
Post by: acomplishedartis on August 16, 2013, 03:48:48 AM
This article is about history and propaganda art around the world but the title fits religion really well.

Great title: "The Comfort of Mindless Obedience"

http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Faux-Propaganda-Art-337982218?roi=echo2-11337227550-3147795-d633ff5a312a9c5108500363da6b8b4d (http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Faux-Propaganda-Art-337982218?roi=echo2-11337227550-3147795-d633ff5a312a9c5108500363da6b8b4d)


Some time ago already, I watched the documentary ''The century of the self'' by Adam Curtis. And it was very helpful to understand

this propaganda-stuff.