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Title: judgement
Post by: Ian 155 on December 11, 2012, 11:46:09 AM

Interesting verses on Judgement in relation to Isa's 26:9

John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world
John 12:48  He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

anyone care to have a stab at this It does seem complicated - are judgements appropriated with/by the word only ?

Ian

Title: Re: judgement
Post by: gregorydc on December 11, 2012, 04:28:14 PM

Imo. Sounds to me like we are the word?  For Christ is in me, Christ is the Word of God, we are what Christ is.
Greg

Title: Re: judgement
Post by: Ian 155 on December 12, 2012, 10:17:53 AM

thanks Greg 

what I'm picking up is, the Word is our judge  however the word himself said I have not come to Judge but to save ??  ??? ???

Title: Re: judgement
Post by: longhorn on December 24, 2012, 09:00:54 AM

The answer to your question is John 9:39.  For " Judgemet " I have come into this world, that those, (only the elect at this time) who do not see may see ( Spiritual understanding) and that those who see ( carnal minded peolple who understand " Only " the physical words of Christ ) may be made blind.  For the Elect, judgment is now, in this lifetime, 1 Pet 4:17, the rest of humanity, judgment comes (via the elect) in the Lake of Fire.  Christ is not judging the " World " at this time. 

Longhorn

Title: Re: judgement
Post by: levycarneiro on December 24, 2012, 11:56:56 AM

Quote from: longhorn on December 24, 2012, 09:00:54 AM

The answer to your question is John 9:39.  For " Judgemet " I have come into this world, that those, (only the elect at this time) who do not see may see ( Spiritual understanding) and that those who see ( carnal minded peolple who understand " Only " the physical words of Christ ) may be made blind.  For the Elect, judgment is now, in this lifetime, 1 Pet 4:17, the rest of humanity, judgment comes (via the elect) in the Lake of Fire.  Christ is not judging the " World " at this time. 

Longhorn

I believe I had read this verse before: "For judgment I have come into this world". But it was in my mind folder "things I have no idea what they mean".

I'm very glad it's so clear now that God is opening our eyes to His truth.

Thanks for this simple and clear explanation, Longhorn!

Levy

Title: Re: judgement
Post by: Ian 155 on December 26, 2012, 01:26:16 PM

Yes thanks, perhaps that explains why everything that can go wrong in this life is going wrong... hope im one of the elect,

Do I read it right, "for judgement I came to earth to straighten out my elect" ? [my words]