Ah Yes, ;)
The church I was in called it "Slain in the Spirit" :P
Being slain in the Spirit is a term related to the Charismatic movement and Pentecostalism which describes a religious phenomenon in which a person enters a state with loss of all motor control over their body and falls to the floor during an event perceived as a personal encounter with God's glory and power, usually associated with occasions of public prayer ministry when the laying on of hands is practiced.
If it was losing all motor control, how is it that they are stiff, no knees bent, arms right at their sides ?
Like the children's book the "Emperors New Clothes" it was only the special people that the Spirit engulfed!
Well they say Mike Tyson found god so that's why he done ended so many fights knocked out on his behind.
Well they say Mike Tyson found god so that's why he done ended so many fights knocked out on his behind.
The MusicMan strikes again; ;D ;D ;D; too bad Mike Tyson didn't fall and hit his head more often, maybe it would have helped, then again, maybe not; ;D ::) :o
Samson.
I don't agree with this idea that because someone falls backward it is something not right.
Quotebecause someone falls backward it is something not right.
O.K, I'll say it ;D
If anyone at all stands before these charlatans and falls backwards, forwards, sideways, up, down, left, or right there is something not quite right.
Craig
Joe,
You think that is weird, check out the "Toronto blessing".
It's just plain nuts. Talk about carnal...
QuoteI don't agree with this idea that because someone falls backward it is something not right.
O.K, I'll say it ;D
If anyone at all stands before these charlatans and falls backwards, forwards, sideways, up, down, left, or right there is something not quite right.
Craig
Jeff,
There once was a King. Two tailors came to town to see the King in order to Make him "Special Clothes".
Now the Tailors told The King and everybody in the town, that only people who were very smart could see the clothes, and that the clothes would be very expensive!
So when the King put on these special clothes he went into town, so everybody could admire his special clothes! . All his subjects yelled out their praise to the king as he walked by. Then this one little boy, who tugged on his mothers dress and yelled out, Mommy Why is The King Naked?
And the moral to the story is..... ;)
(We've all been fooled here,...in one way or another)
I am not sure why you are telling me this. I would have to say we are still being fooled. This is just another step in the ladder.
Jeff
No doubt, I couldn't agree with you more on that! I try to never think of my walk, as having "Arrived".
I was sharing this story to address your comment that there is no difference in those that were left standing.
I believe the story explains the difference. It's not an arrogant spirit, that Joe is coming from. The foundation of BT teachings is that we see (a naked King), only because God allows it.
I have seen plenty of beautiful clothed Kings, and I've cheered for the King, I've even been the naked King.
We are just rejoicing that we are able to see our Spiritual King.
I completely embraced the speaking in tongues gift....and several of their teachings. :-\
Now that Toronto thing is to Bizare.......
O.K, I'll say it ;D
If anyone...falls backwards, forwards, sideways, up, down, left, or right there is something not quite right.
Craig
I just found this email from Ray.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2974.0.html -----
Everyone knows and it has been custom since the beginning of the world, that one bows and faces the King. Falling over backward in the presence of the King would be the height of insult and disrespect! No one but Satan would come up with such a shamefull exhibition of the carnal flesh. THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES in this shameful insult of modern ministers. God has nowhere ordained any such wierd and bizarre nonsense.
God be with you,
Ray
I have to say No, whenever I went up to be prayed for, I was usually the one left standing. I went back once but, it was from the preacher pushing my head back, and I allowed my self to fall back. Keep in mind people are usually praying for something in desperation, and have their eyes closed! If I sensed that I allowed it, then it was my flesh, and not being overcome by the Spirit of God.
I do think that what Krista experienced is more Scriptural, as they use scriptures like when Saul was transformed into Paul on the road to Damascus, or When John fell as one Dead in the book of Revelations! If one "died" standing up I see one crumpling to the ground like a rag doll, like Krista.
I think it goes against the law of gravity & physics to fall backwards, without bending your knees? If your eyes are closed and you stiffen your body, you can loose your balance, and someone who pushes your forhead back can make it happen. Looks like the "Nestea Plunge" to me! :-\
People just really, really want to believe they have been touched by God...
Just my thoughts,
Brenda
Hi Jeff,
It may be nonsense but what I saw on TV was one after another falling backwards not forward, not sideways and not straight down, but backwards. When I checked scriptures to see what connotation or meaning this might have I posted what I found.
Why in the verses quoted was it specifically stated that those who fell, fell backwards, is this nonsense as well? Perhaps you or a loved one had this experience and that is why you are sensitive to this topic, please understand that I am not judging the participants at all but I am questioning the source of this phenomena.
I am of the mind that every word, every description and even every number in scripture has significance, often many layers of significance, perhaps I take it too far at times and maybe this is one of those times.
I apologize for offending you.
Peace,
Joe
Man, sorry I have been gone for awhile it seems. this thread was started days ago. I'm just catching up. I also went on a stage yrs ago and this guy prayed over me and then was pushing my forehead so that I would go or fall backwards. I did resist and did not go backwards at all. I don;t think he was happy with me because he pushed harder and harder on my forehead. I kept pushing and pushing forward until he moved on to the next person. That guy just fell over like a ton of bricks. I think some people want to believe so bad that they are being touch by the Holy Spirit they will do just about anything. I seen on the Benny Hinn show that he drops them without even a touch, just a wave of the hand or he blows on them and bam they fall over. It is rather funny to me. I think it was Daniel who was visited by Gabriel and Daniel fell face down and all his might left him. Face first in the dirt. can anyone back this up with scripture?
Darren
As I was channel surfing last weekend I came across one of those TV preachers doing the hand on the forehead, felled by the spirit dog and pony show. I wondered, when people faint or lose consciousness do they always fall backward? It is amazing, the preacher performing this whatever one might call it always positions someone directly behind the person on the receiveing end, it struck me enough to do a search on examples in scripture where people "fall backward" my initial thought was that falling backward would not be something to be desired.
I found a couple verses that appear to substantiate my reaction;
Gen 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
Isa 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little and there a little; that they might go and fall backward and be broken and snared and taken.
Peace,
Joe