I remember only once of any anger Jesus may have shown—temple/money exchangers/tables over turned. (Excluding Old Testament). Surmise any tinge of ‘what did I say wrong..?’ that Phillip may have felt contrariwise to normal peaceful exchanges with the Lord would have been short-lived. Especially since they were not yet converted but very soon to be. Even Peter may have felt the bristle brush, John 21:22. ….”what is that to you?…”
But, we’re talking about our Lord who exemplified matchless humanly candor and peace of heart.
In the same theme, Paul was of strong character and openly admitted he could be gentle or bring a rod of iron, ie: 1 Cor 4:21; and, “you foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you,…?”; and, “his letters are weighty and strong,” 2 Cor 10:10
Sour wine or honey. But that’s why I like Paul’s writings. His letters sway the seismic needle as required. Even before his ‘road trip’ it doesn’t sound like Paul was a tickler of ear personality. His letters are hard but thorough. And myself being one in the fold of the ‘dumber’ sheep elementary is paramount. I admit I have to read Paul repeatedly and short doses often.
Thanks for the good reply Dave.
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I agree with you about Paul. I think he understood the "many are called, few chosen" nature of the Gospel of the Kingdom, ministering to "both" in the same letters. He lived it, after all, and deeply. I think he is quite funny at times, in that somewhat typical Jewish sense of humor that seems to have survived even to the present. He comes the closest of any personage of the Bible to someone that I feel like I more completely understand, though not everything (as Peter attested) is easy.
As for Philip. Since the disciples were not yet "converted" when this exchange took place, it's possible that Philip was just as perplexed by the answer as he had been before the question. No doubt he remembered those words later. So, if his feelings were hurt, it was only for a little while until he made peace with "He who has seen me has seen the Father..." and his fear left him. That's "a" way to imagine this conversation. I can imagine it other ways, but not as ending with anything short of faith-as-a-child. |
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Once again I will give Ray respectful and due credit. Probably not exact but, “weigh GOD’S words very carefully”.
Yes indeed. Everyone has their own favorite scripture verse, or verses. I have several myself. From Psalms to Proverbs to anything Paul wrote. Especially Paul. If Paul were a sandwich he wouldn’t be scrambled eggs, more like roast beef. Full of tasty meat. Aside from getting hungry I’ll push on to my point. Today I came -back- across a beauty of getting to know Jesus. And since I don’t participate in any established religion/church/Sunday school/Wednesday night “prayer” meetings, I’ll share this glory with some like-minded folks that would truly appreciate the majesty. From the SUPER LARGE PRINT NASB (because old eyes require SUPER LARGE PRINT); John 14: 8-9 “Phillip said to him, Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us”. Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Phillip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? In our ever-so-kind world today that “gotcha” retort would have come with a snappy sneer….because that’s what a true beast does nowadays. To pull from another “ray-ism” and informally quote “say, did you happen to notice”….. …”and Jesus loved him”. Because you know he did. |
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Hi Casey,
You cannot take the number of Guests that show up as real people. A lot of them are actually SPAM Bot Attacks. For example, right now I can see the number of GUESTS showing up as Users Online being 4,526 Guests. Most of these are not real people. |
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I have a Question for anyone who cares to answer,
why do so many sign sign on to this forum as guest and not forum members? Casey |
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In this LOF part 4, Ray as a subtitle called "The Three Festivals and the Salvation of ALL". Ray talks about in #3 THE END-OF-YEAR OF INGATHERING (Feast Of Tabernacles)
Hopefully this will help. http://bible-truths.com/lake4.html |
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Hello Casey and Porter
I googled it and it said that Israel still keeps the feast of tabernacles and that it is called Sukkot. I don’t know any more details.🤷♀️ In Christ, Pamela |
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I don't know if Ray ever addressed this, sorry. If it means God dwells with us, I don't see why not now either.
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Hello family, I have a question, I don't know if Ray had every
addressed this or not, why would the feast of tabernacles be kept when Jesus returns but not now? Casey |
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Is Jesus an equal part of the “godhead”? Was he ‘ALWAYS’, like ‘just forever’? Where did Jesus come from? Did he have a “beginning”, a start? GOD’S “begotten son”. When? Before or after birth in this evil world?
Recently I went back to the 2006 mobile conference. “Ray: Now we get into the Trinity business, and oh I thought Christ was God and He existed with God for all eternity. No, He did not. “ ….”The right order of the words in the linear is, ‘and God was the word.’ “and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning WITH God.” Now it’s pretty hard for something that is something, to be with itself, see what I’m saying, that does’t quite work grammatically, does it? Ray: “So in John 13:3 "and that HE CAME FROM GOD,” that’s where Jesus came from, GOD. Not from the Godhead, not from the Trinity, FROM GOD. John 16:27 for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I CAME OUT FROM GOD. (Just like Eve came out from Adam) v. 28 I CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER, and have come into the world.” “Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, ……..THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD;”(Caps mine)…….. “The beginning was the Word of God, what did God began with? Jesus Christ, right? The Word, that’s what God began with, Jesus Christ is the beginning.” …… Revelation is a hard read. But the pearl was there. ‘Spiritual matches’ that Ray emphasizes. A little here, a little there. REV 3:14 “The beginning of the creation of GOD. says this“……”NASB) WHEN did that get put in there? ![]() You have to love Ray. “Pay attention to the words, ALL the words”. “Don’t just read over the words”. “Weigh GOD’S words very carefully”. GOD is good. Such a blessing is L Ray Smith, Pennsylvania farm boy. |
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