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=> Email to Ray => Topic started by: Craig on December 25, 2011, 12:15:05 AM

Title: God Hates Sinners
Post by: Craig on December 25, 2011, 12:15:05 AM
Craig:  This is an important addition to my new paper, so be sure to post it.

From: Ray

From: Nathaniel
Subject: God Hates Sinners

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Pastor Smith!

 I read your newest article, and though I found it interesting, it
left a lot of questions in my mind. I was surprised it was not as
detailed as your other articles, usually you leave no wiggle room for
confusion and questions. In your article you stated "There is one
Scripture that some might think contradicts the many Scriptures above
stating that God hates sinners, and that verse is found in Rom. 5:8."

I was surprised, because I thought you would cover a verse that seems
to contradict God hating sinners even more than Rom. 5:8, and that's
Matt 5:44 which states "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless
them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them
who despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

Throughout your other articles, you always point to the fact that God
would be a hypocrite to command us to love our enemies, and then hate
them by torturing them in an eternal hell. Now I have learned that God
will turn all to righteousness and it is in this capacity of how we
will be in which God loves us, and of course there is no eternal hell.
But Matt 5:44 seems to suggest that we are to love our enemies as they
are now. But the scriptures clearly state God hates sinners as they
are now.

Also what defines a sinner under the hatred of God? I was wondering
now if every time I sin (which is inevitable) am I now under the
hatred of God? Does God hate us all, even true overcomers, until we
are completely purged from all sin?

I know the Scriptures do not contradict, so I am trying to gain a
solid understanding of this topic.

Always in prayer for your health,
God Bless,

Nathaniel

Dear Nathaniel:  This is the problem that arises when I try to keep my papers short.
I get criticized for not covering all the bases, but mostly my criticisms are because
my papers are too long, so how can I win.  I edited ten pages out of this last paper
due to its length. As a result you are the second or third person who is having a
problem with this paper.  Let me give you the e-mail and my answer I gave my last
reader with this same question:


Hi, Ray,

Thank you for your recent article.
 
I have a question:  Does God hate me when I am tested and fail miserably?
What will He do to me?


Dear Gina:  No, Gina, God does not hate you when you are tested and fail.
And how can I say that. Many reasons, not the least of which are the teachings
of Paul where he says:

Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign [to RULE your life in your
mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion [that is RULERSHIP,
complete control]over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

It all has to do with your motivation.  Is your desire to please God or to
sin and please yourself not just occasionally, but as a way of life.  Notice
this encouragement from Paul:

2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your
own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in
you, except ye be reprobates?

I don't think you are a "reprobate," Gina. A reprobate is one who is
morally unprincipled, not one who is striving to overcome sin.

Take a closer look at the Scriptures I presented which show the attitudes that God hates.
I will just give a few of the obvious ones, but I could go through every one of them:

They provoked Him to jealousy with strange gods (Deut. 32:16).

the wicked and him that loves violence His soul hates " (Psalm 11:5)

And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nations which I cast out (Lev. 20:23)

If ye will not hearken unto Me, and will not do all these commandments (Lev. 26:14).

You hate all workers of iniquity ..." (Psalm 5:5)   Etc., etc.

Do you do these things as a way of life, Gina?  Worship strange gods? love violence?
live like the wicked nations that God cast out? refuse to do all Gods commandments?

Are you a worker of iniquity?  I don't think so.  Listen Gina, once God calls you and you
accept that call then here is your spiritual condition from then on:

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to them which
are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Hope this strengthens your faith, Gina.

And below is a short new paragraph that I am adding to my paper under the caption on
God hating sinners, which I hope will clarify this question that will undoubtedly come up
with others as well:

  A STARTLING REVELATION: GOD HATES SINNERS

There is no Scripture which states that God hates everyone even though everyone sins:
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"  (Rom. 3:23).  However,
when sinning becomes a way of life, and the sins are of a certain magnitude and grossness,
God hates the sinner as well as his sins.  Here are some examples:

COMMENT:  And then continues my paper.......

PS  I also cover "Love your enemies" somewhere in my revised paper, but I'm not
quite sure where I put that right now.

Hope this helps you.

God be with you,

Ray