Rose, a mystic, is one who believes in mysticism.
mysticism
noun
mys·ti·cism ˈmi-stə-ˌsi-zəm
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: the experience of mystical union or direct communion with ultimate reality reported by mystics
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: the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (such as intuition or insight)
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: vague speculation : a belief without sound basis
b
: a theory postulating the possibility of direct and intuitive acquisition of ineffable knowledge or power
The fact that the person also believed in the salvation of all made it hard for me to see what he was about initially. The guy even believed the bible was one giant parable, as we do. The thing with this mystic was that he seemed to value the knowledge (however false some of his knowledge was) of Scripture above all.
I share what I've learned here all the time. Though I try to be careful with the whom I share them with. I try to find people who are genuinely looking for answers. Occasionally, I'll point them to Ray's papers; otherwise, I try my best to give an answer for the hope in me.
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on: October 18, 2024, 06:30:48 AM
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on: October 16, 2024, 06:10:24 PM
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Excerpts from winning souls.
It’s all about motivation.If your motivation is carnal , God will not back you. Yes I know, all of you are saying,” but my motivation is to show them God’s Truths.” Yes, sure, I understand, BUT THEY DONT WANT TO HEAR GODS TRUTHS, and you already know this so what is your point? Leave them alone and let them taste your salt and see you light ( Matt. 5:1,14,16)and admire your good works and perchance they will even praise God for your new- found humility. ( caps Rays) Salt does not make any noise and light does not argue scriptures. Light or salt does not make any sound whatsoever. Maybe there is a lesson in there somewhere. How to demonstrate your knowledge of the truth. 1 Peter 2:11-12….. Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul,having your conversation ( GK. conduct) honest, ( GK. honorable) among the Gentiles: that whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works ( not your clever Bible arguments,or new- found knowledge ) which they shall behold , glorify God in the day of visitation. Your good works and righteous character will pay dividends to others eventually— If not in this life then in Judgement. Me…. Free will and the sovereignty of God cannot be understood by a carnal mind. They have been made blind and can’t see. And it’s ALL OF GOD.💕 Preaching, teaching , singing ,by carnal minded men is of the world. Love not the world. Ray…. I’m asked,” why I teach the truths of God if all is of God and God does all the choosing and drawing. (John 6:44 and 15:16) ? Because that is how God operates. God uses the foolishness ( GK. Stupidity) of preaching as one of His means by which He communicates with His elect. Certainly we should all follow Peter’s admonition to,,,, be ready to always give an answer to every man that ASKS you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear( reverence) 1 Peter 3:15. But God has not called all to be teachers. ( 1Cor. 12:29} I have never been asked a reason for my hope in me, but I have foolishly offered it to my family who are not believers. The pushback was profound And so was the pain of thinking I failed God. But hey, no pain , no gain right. We learn and then rejoice in our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. |
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on: October 16, 2024, 11:24:24 AM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Dennis Vogel | ||
Yea, I've shared BT with a few close school friends on Facebook with indifference returned.
BTW, it's been over two decades since BT was started in August, 2000. That's 24 years ago. Here's what our website looked like in 2001 - May be slow to come up as archive.org was hacked recently. https://web.archive.org/web/20010720170739/http://bible-truths.com/ |
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on: October 16, 2024, 10:09:21 AM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Dave in Tenn | ||
I share. Honest I do! I even shared with my mother and got pushback. Lol Not a surprise at all.
I even shared a little both with links and comments in that Facebook group. And I may occasionally continue to Who knows what may come of that, but it's against the flow there. It's disappointing because, though I might can expect some minor disagreement or differences of emphasis, I get blind sided by serious disagreement. Anyway, many are called few chosen and He is the chooser. |
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on: October 12, 2024, 12:46:54 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by octoberose | ||
I’m late to the party - What is a Universalist Mystic ? And I read other peoples stuff and because of the education I’ve received here for over a decade I can weed out what misses the mark. And when I comment on free will being a fallacy or all being reconciled to God, of course I get a lot of push back - but Not always. Sometimes I think my little contribution helps their understanding. I still think what we do matters - it’s’ not that God is not Sovereign, it’s that He has let us take part . I want to take part in the great good news - why would I not want that ? This is a group that has spent , what, almost two decades trying to get God’s Word out ? I think that’s wonderful. I’m so grateful. Why would we not want to spread the news , no matter what the push back is ?
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on: October 12, 2024, 05:36:01 AM
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Started by Dave in Tenn - Last post by Rhys 🕊 | ||
Prayers it all works out for you Dave. For me after losing my wife it continues to be a struggle with moments of depression and missing her a lot. I hope one day I can be with her again. My faith in God has taken a bit of a hit but still there but sure do question a lot of things. I feel like you gotta keep fighting to keep going but sometimes I don’t have much fight left in me. I live near the ocean and it’s a nice place to be.
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on: October 07, 2024, 05:14:53 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Musterseed | ||
I need to make a correction on a statement I made.I left out a word.
I said Wow 😮 I just learned this today about the Psalms and prophecy not SOLELY about predicting the future,,,,,,,,,,, Sorry, my bad, I left out the word solely. God Bless You All Pamela💕 |
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on: October 05, 2024, 11:44:32 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Musterseed | ||
1 John 4:17….. As He is, so are we in the world.
Mark 13:13 and Luke 21:17…. You will be hated by all for My name sake………. From …. Where we got the Bible, Ray writes 2 Tim. 3:16… All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. “ All Scripture, okay. One of the definitions of prophecy or prophesying, is inspired teaching, singing and writing, it’s prophesying. Prophesying does NOT mean solely predicting the future. Any singing, teaching, or writing is prophesying. See 2 Peter 1: 19. ANY SCRIPTURE.If it’s inspired of God it’s a spirit of prophecy, even if it’s a song that you sing, [ the psalms are songs, they are prophecy]. If it’s inspired of God it’s prophecy. You got that? That’s an important point because you need to remember as you study the Scripture from here on out.” Ray. So we got teaching, and writing and singing 🎶 ( a New Song) on Bible- Truths.com The Title stands up to its name , inspired by God. That makes it prophecy. Wow 😮 I just learned this today about the Psalms and prophecy not about predicting the future, that makes sense now. Awesome. Yeah, Ray took a lot of hate because they despise the word of God. Isa 30: 12-14,, Isa. 30: 8-11, Ezekiel 13 and 1 Sam.9:9. I want to paraphrase something Ray said in His TEACHING on The sovereignty of God and Him repenting of creating humanity. That’s a great study by the way.😁 He said something like” who wants to attribute these meanings ( talking about a definition of the word repent) to God and not expect a lightening bolt to come through the ceiling? Woe, it will be ill with them. God taught the angels to sing. And they all sang together. Keep the unity of the Spirit. In Christs name , Amen. |
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on: October 05, 2024, 04:15:31 PM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by Dennis Vogel | ||
About a year ago YouTube decided 'universalism' is something I'm interested in and found about a dozen universal channels for me.
One of the universalism channels was devoted to disproving certain L Ray Smith's teachings and I watched several of these videos and foolishly commented in a few of them. Watching these other channels I was always able to find errors in their teachings with a few exceptions like Tent Maker. Ray received many thousands of emails over the years challenging his teachings. A few were legitimate minor points and Ray had me correct the text. And some were just typo's that got past myself and others that helped with the text proofing before publishing. I don't know of any other universalism site that received even a fraction of the scrutiny in the emails/comments Ray received. |
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on: October 05, 2024, 09:53:35 AM
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Started by ZekeSr - Last post by ZekeSr | ||
I just watched it so here is what I gleaned from it. Pam, you have reminded me of something that Ray had said quite often about scripture… that we must “pay attention to all the words”. I guess it holds true with everything everywhere in life, both written or spoken. However, from my perspective (and mine alone), it didn’t matter. I’ve long since grown past those statements that I missed. I was so intrigued by the primary core of the video backing up Ray’s teaching on the lake of fire that the underlying statements flew right over my head. I’m not excusing myself. I’m thanking you for bringing it to my attention. I’m surprised, as I usually catch those things. I’m glad I put it to the test on this forum. With that being said, I don’t believe the man is lying in the pure sense. He knows what he knows… as do we all. And within the confines of what he knows, he has done his homework. It reminds me to always stay humble in the gift of any knowledge we’ve been granted. It can be a long bumpy road from perceived certainty to actual fact. Which brings me to your response, Dave. I'm always a little leery even discussing "free will" because the term is usually without a definition. People can say they believe in free will simply out of ignorance or laziness when what they truly believe is the sovereignty of God. I remember my involvement with the World Wide Church, when I thought I’d found it for sure. And the strange miracle which quite literally blocked me from entering any further into the depths of that church—something I described in my very first post. This was followed by decades of pretty much just being out there in the world. And here I am now with Bible Truths. Porter, I hear what you’re saying, brother.
While I might check out some more of this man’s videos sometime due to a certain inquisitiveness, I have no intention of delving into various forms of universalism or anything else for that matter. And like you, I am no teacher. I have been given revelations in scripture that I realize to be true and yet have never seen or heard anywhere else. Nevertheless, I cannot express them openly. I know where I am. I know where I’ve been led. Thank you all. This has been quite helpful for me. Mike |