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I just saw on the news that the director of Titanic is putting out a documentary refuting the ressurectionHe claims they had found the tomb of Jesus with his remains and did dna testing also that they found Mary's remains next to him in another tomb. Has anyone seen this ?
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This is called selling books, movies and documentaries.
No different than the Davinci code and UFO's being sighted.
Then it turns out in the movies and books that all of it is based on circumstantial baloney.
Orlando
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Yeah I agree the tomb was found the same man that found the tomb of James and it was proven to be a fake.
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2Pe 3:3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires.
empaiktēs
From G1702; a derider, that is, (by implication) a false teacher: - mocker, scoffer.
Yep Orlando, I think have it right.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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I'm sorry, but this director is too late. They found some of Jesus blood a while back. I don't know from where but they did DNA testing on it. They knew for sure it was from Jesus because it had 23 chromosomes. (OK, I wanted to insert a roll eyes smilie here, but it didn't work)
Ursula
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To All,
I have always thought highly of James Cameron as he has stayed somewhat true to historical facts, but this makes him go down in my opinion at least. He must be getting desparate.
While these movies are at least entertaining, I do not like the idea of them being out there. When I read the Da Vinci code, it has challenged my faith and nearly wiped it out. I am still recovering from the shock of it.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
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My neighbor Lula just called and said while she was digging in her garden she thinks she might have found Jimmy Hoffa.....hang on.... the FBI are here right now.. get back to yall later.
Longhorn
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;D :D ;D :D ;D
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Longhorn, being from Detroit, I can tell you they "aint" NEVER gonna find Hoffa. Ask Lula to dig a little to the right, I heard Elvis might be there.
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What did you say Gena, I couldn't hear you, the helicoptors and the army tanks are making too much noise. Looks like me and Lula are in for a long night... Talk to yall later.... wait... officer, please dont search her like that... gotta go...
Longhorn
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Who took the needle and pierce Jesus' arm for blood test??? 2,000 years ago? How???
;D ;D ;D
Brett
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Who took the needle and pierce Jesus' arm for blood test??? 2,000 years ago? How???
;D ;D ;D
Brett
You rock dude.
Longhorn
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I think I saw Jimmy Hoffas' AND Elvis' DUST blowin in the dirt filled wind over here in West Texas today. :o
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hmmmmm I didnt think Elvis was dead yet! ??? ???I heard that somewhere he faked his own death and escaped thru a secret passage gate didnt ya all know that? hmmmmm Now where is Elvis coz id sure love to hear him sing 'in the garden of song" cant recall the title but its a beautiful religious song. He did alot of religious songs that folks dont realize he did....Most folks were more into his rock n roll songs..
anyhow LOOK there is Elvis NO here is Elvis no over there is Elvis.. ;) ;) ;)
kinda reminds me of the false teachers who claim to be Jesus that Jesus warns us about dont it?? ??? ??? ???
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Just because the names Jesus, Mary and Joseph are on a tomb, that doesn't mean it's OUR Jesus.
I have a younger sister named Terry. In our church back home, there were also two sisters: Sandy and her younger sister, also named Terry. Now ... 2,000 years in the future, if those names are all that are engraved on our tombstones, someone could find their graves and believe them to be mine and my sister's, or vice versa.
The so-called "proof" they have really proves nothing. Actually, the evidence from those tombs that Jesus was married to a woman named Mary and had a son named Judah is evidence that it is NOT the Jesus of Scripture ... unless you believe "The DaVinci Code," which, of course, is not based on Scripture.
Sandy
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Is this guy crazy? YES ;D ;D but somehow I think he has to be thinking that he is real smart!....
did any of you know that Pablo Picasso changed his style of art to suit the appetites of the world. He did not enjoy the art he produced to the worlds standards and admitted this in his biography. he gave the world what it wanted and made himself a fortune! How smart is that!
Is the Titanic guy who is crazy giving the world what it wants? I think so!...and that is not to say that I think he is smart. He is blind to the lusts of the world.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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Yes he's crazy and I don't think he's very smart as he said he had found the remains of Jesus.
What I would like to know is how?
If we read Mark 16:6 it says, "And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is RISEN; he is NOT HERE: BEHOLD the PLACE WHERE THEY LAID HIM. Also Luke 24:3, And they entered in, and found NOT the BODY of JESUS.
So, pray tell, how did they find his remains.
???
Suzie
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As far as I'm concerned, it's all a distraction. Just like reading Dan Brown's "Angels and Demons" a few years ago (I have not read DaVinci Code and I'm not about to)...it all ties into the world's fascination with the conspiracy theories of old (The Illuminati, the Kaballists, the Ascended Masters, David Icke's "reptilians" and the like) and how these "new world order" forces tie into Tim LeHaye's "left Behind" nonsense. It is indeed what "the world" wants...whether he's crazy or not we don't need to be getting caught up in it.
Like your Avatar, Suzie! Do you live in mountain lion country? I do.
Deb aka snorky
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And they always seem to put things like this out before a holiday that the church has is approaching.
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No Snorky, I do not. I just like cats. I live in Kentucky and did see and hear one here once about 20 years age. Was others who reported seeing and hearing them. Not been any reports in the last few years though.
Suzie
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I believe to make something controversal is one of the enemies biggest strategies. The more something made controversal by media (TV, NEWSPAPER, ORGANIZED RELIGION) the better it will spread. This is not doctrine, but just my opinion though. The more hilarious, the more it'll sink in and be on your mind. I'm not teaching, but if you get a chance read Philippians 4:8.
Moderators, please let me know if I'm out of line. I'm trying my best not to come off like I'm trying to teach. I don't know anything, THE WORD just helps me put things in perspective. Please let me know if I'm getting close to that line again.
IN CHRIST,
Bev
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Hi Deb and all,
I agree with you totallyabout it being a waste of time to get into all of this new world order stuff (ha, I was into it) and 'christian end times series' stuff as (which I have never read any b/c I would not buy into their manipulations for money for one thing.)
I have to share with you all the following; my dear cousin in another city (who is a sold out Christian (for now), 'name it and claim it', Benny Hinn believer type still; well, she had sweetly sent my little boy a an authentic Israeli prayer shawl (a 'talit') that she got from the Benny Hinn ministries; well, ever since she did this, Daniel (8 yo mind you) keeps getting 'GIVE ME' MAIL (as I call it) from this ministry. I mean often too! I called them awhile back and spent over 30 minutes on the phone (waiting on hold, all the while listening to this repetative same song (at least 15 times or so), and I finally got someone who said that they would take him off of their mailing list (which is a pet peeve of mine to be sent junk mail), anyhoo, they assured me that this would be the last of sending me anything. Needless to say, I keep getting more mail, so I called again to cancel Daniel from getting anymore (and same thing happened...30 minutes; same song; 'i'll take you off the mailing list', etc...) I said all of that to say that I actually had a good response when I (politely) told the guy on the other end of the phone that he had better be careful in supporting such a greedy individual who is doing all of this in the name of the LORD, b/c he will have to give an account for supporting one who does this kind of evangelism for money (I told him that freely we recieved good things from God, and freely we should give to others...not selling this stuff...I directed him to BT/LOF and I will let you know if he respondes to the truth ...he sure sounded as if he were convicted ;)...I just cannot stand it when you tell them no more and they keep on... ;) ::)
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I believe to make something controversal is one of the enemies biggest strategies. The more something made controversal by media (TV, NEWSPAPER, ORGANIZED RELIGION) the better it will spread. This is not doctrine, but just my opinion though. The more hilarious, the more it'll sink in and be on your mind. I'm not teaching, but if you get a chance read Philippians 4:8.
Moderators, please let me know if I'm out of line. I'm trying my best not to come off like I'm trying to teach. I don't know anything, THE WORD just helps me put things in perspective. Please let me know if I'm getting close to that line again.
IN CHRIST,
Bev
You are so sweet and humble!
I too agree w/ your point about making something controversial will sell better.
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Hi Susan,
It's unbelievable what you had to go through just to get your little boy off a mailing list that you didn't want to be on in the first place! I have to shake my head in wonder.
I haven't supported any ministries for many years but they must have gotten even more sophisticated in their money getting techniques now than they were back then.
I remember the hysterical pleas underlined in blue, ending in several exclamation points to emphasize imminent catastrophe that would occur if I didn't send money. It was too much!
About your comments on end time's stuff, I have to, with a red face, admit I used to LOVE that stuff. I would go out to my local Christian book store about once every year or two and buy a book on the imminent end times. I used to love how the author would integrate world events and prophecies in the bible. It was like reading a horror novel! My heart would pound with fearful wonder and I would read on in horrified fascination about all these big disasters that were just around the corner. Then I would go on with my humdrum little life, doing all the little things I like to do, just going on. I wonder about those authors now though. Aren't they embarrassed to face their families and friends now that their predictions have failed? I mean if your entire book was about how Gorbachov is the antichrist, and he's obviously not, how do you go on!? ;D
I love the way you write.
Ursula
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Good Sunday Morning to All.
My husband was saved directly from reading The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey. It literally scaird him so much that he said the "sinners prayer" on the page that Hal told you to. He totally changed overnight!!!
So for years we were very much into all that stuff. The 88 reasons God is coming back in 1988 really took us in!!!
Someone has since threw that in our face as to our new fixation w/ Ray. They said we were always kinda wierd "Christians"- remember 88 reasons???? I couldn't believe they would say that. Oh well, we were always "out there" looking for Truth and we always had the Word as very very important. So yeah, we were always different from the average. Thank God.
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To All,
Kinda sounds like the crazy 99 or however many thesis were nailed to the church wall.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
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They said we were always kinda wierd "Christians"- remember 88 reasons???? I couldn't believe they would say that.
Hi Gena,
You and your husband should thank them for the compliment! ;)
Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Deu 14:2 For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
Deu 26:18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:
His Peace to you,
Joe
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Yes he's crazy and I don't think he's very smart as he said he had found the remains of Jesus.
What I would like to know is how?
If we read Mark 16:6 it says, "And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is RISEN; he is NOT HERE: BEHOLD the PLACE WHERE THEY LAID HIM. Also Luke 24:3, And they entered in, and found NOT the BODY of JESUS.
So, pray tell, how did they find his remains.
???
Suzie
Hi Suzie,
Well obviously he is saying that the bible, and the people who wrote the original manuscripts are lying. Tha'ts the whole point, he is saying that Jesus did not rise, and therefore they found his remains. Athiests refer to it as the "buy-bull". That is clever, I must say. But that also means that, quoting the bible to refute them is less than useless. The only thing you can do to prove them wrong is to prove that is not the same Jesus.
Peace,
Sorin
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Joe, thankyiu so much for those scriptures...they fit PERFECTLY (duh, as if they wouldn't ;) ???) for what I am facing right now!
and all, thank you for all of your input here, (and I mus confess that my memory had failed me b/c I DID get into eschatology (end time studies) by going to all of the PROPHECY CLUB meetings way back then) :-\ They always had alot to talk about end times for sure!
ALL OF YOU, PLEASE READ WHAT I AM GOING TO POST RIGHT NOW ON THE 'HOMESCHOOL HELL PLAY', I want to hear your thoughts on this ;)