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Ah yes ,the fiery trails of 1:Peter 4:12, your faith being tested.

James 1:19… know this my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear,
slow to speak, slow to anger, for the anger of man does not produce the
righteousness of God.

The anger of man and what do we know about angry men?

They despise the word of God. All of them.
Isa.30:12, 5:20, and 24 Chapter 1:vs. 4,

My sister and I had a discussion about why we want to shout from the rooftops
about Our Lord and believing our new found knowledge, We had to dig deep
within ourselves . Yes we want everyone to know what we know, but how do you explain to a bunch of know it alls that they don’t know it all. You then will look
like the know it all who has a free will attitude of arrogance. It will backfire.
And this we have to experience because it’s humbling us. But digging deeper
my sister and I realized that sometimes we ourselves were relishing in the idea
of knowing more than others. God knocked us both off of our high horses more than
once. We are learning to turn the other cheek and is so much better and peaceful.
Nevertheless the trials keep coming and according to Ray they don’t get easier.
God gives us bigger trials each time. We have to learn to appreciate them. Not an
easy thing to do however, but we learn, we have to, to overcome this wicked
evil world. It’s painful, physically, mentally, and emotionally , but spiritually, it’s
producing the righteousness of God. Thank God.

May God give you strength and comfort to continue to fight the good fight Porter.
In Christ Pamela

Pamela, I recently started sharing on TikTok of all places. I had been avoiding that place like the plague because of all the bad things I heard about it. It's true, there is a lot of bad on there, but there is some good as well. I even ran into a group that teaches the salvation of all, as Ray and somebody named Mike Vinson taught it. This group has bible studies with Mike and his circle, from what I understand. I read some of Mike's work, and it was practically a word for word copy of what Ray taught. Furthermore, I'm aware that Mike and Ray were divided on some things, and they split up over the doctrinal differences they had. Ray even wrote a paper addressing the differences they had, but I cannot find it at the moment.

I decided to share some things I had learned in my studies with that aforementioned TikTok group, but none of them would have it. Their leader even accused me of putting my own “exegetical” explanation of the topic, whatever that means.  I thought of all the people I shared with, they were the ones that would have rejoiced. Now I feel silly and even a bit sad for having shared what I learned with them. It dawned on me these were the very wolves in sheep's clothing Jesus warned about. They were subtle with the hate that came out of their mouths toward anyone who didn't agree with them. It's not just them, but the Church as a whole, are unable to receive things of the spirit, so I honestly shouldn't be surprised.

Having said all that, there is some good that comes out from me participating in these TikTok chats. Jesus knew what He was doing when He sent His sheep out among the wolves. I just pray I'm not a wolf myself.

Wendy, that's precisely how I feel, too. I begin to question myself with “who do I think I am?”. I hate that feeling too.

Porter.


I definitely can relate to these feelings
When I’m talking to someone about spiritual stuff later on I’ll feel embarrassed and question myself why I ever said anything I hate feeling like that.

Thanks Pamela for what you wrote
God bless
Wendy

I understand Porter ,
I used to be the same way. God will gradually make you stronger.
Remember the apostles when they rejoiced to be beaten? That was
after conversion. Before that , they were cowards and forsook Jesus.
But we have a down payment,thank God.
Just who are you sharing with? They are blind and until God opens it up to them
they won’t get it. You can shout it  till your Blue in the face, you can even show
them the words ( I did this to a JW at my door and she literally couldn’t see it, I was
blown away)

John 12:39-40….Therefore they could not believe, for again Isaiah said “ He has
blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and
understand with their heart and turn, and I should heal them.
Also Matt.13:14-15

God will strengthen you Porter, and all of us. He is making us like Him,
How awesome is that . Let us pray for wisdom and endurance.
In the name of Jesus 💕

Thank you Pamela. I'm trying to see it the way Ray put it, but the shame I feel at times is one toward Jesus' words. It's like when I share His spiritual words I gotta look sideways as if I'm almost embarrassed. It's hard to explain.

Dennis, perhaps the ability to recognize when you're being manipulated is the power Jesus is referring to.

https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,7500.0.html

"Next we must understand that demons are FALSE DOCTRINES -- "doctrines of demons" Paul calls them. So anything that would influence us to believe in, follow, or be persuaded by any such things are demons influences."

So the link you provided could be a shorter (not a Short) YouTube video Porter. It's directed to this forum and not an article. If you or anyone finds any more of these please post them. Thanks.

Dennis, perhaps the ability to recognize when you're being manipulated is the power Jesus is referring to.

https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,7500.0.html

"Next we must understand that demons are FALSE DOCTRINES -- "doctrines of demons" Paul calls them. So anything that would influence us to believe in, follow, or be persuaded by any such things are demons influences."

I don't have problems with doctrines. I have problems reacting to evil people I see in the news, etc. Sometimes I say to myself "God just kill that evil person" but then I remember Romans 9:21-23:

"Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?"

And 2 Timothy 2:20:
"But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour."

These evil people are just doing what they are here for. And I could have been one of them except for the Grace of God!

Romans: 8-7… Because the carnal mind ( the natural, physical mind of man)
is enmity ( deep seated hatred HATRED) against God.,,, for it is not subject
to the ( Spiritual) law of God, neither indeed can be.
vs. 6…. For to be carnally minded is death. But to be spiritually minded is
life and peace.

We are all born with a physical carnal mind. It is impossible to keep
God’s Spiritual Laws with a carnal mind.

When God purges the hearts and minds of the wicked with His all consuming
Spiritual Fire , they will be UTTERLY ASHAMED! Notice what God says in Rev.14:10
regarding anyone who is a part of this One World Religious System.

The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God( seeing that) “ For ALL NATIONS
have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, which is poured out without
mixture into the cup of His indignation; and he shall be tormented( UTTERLY ASHAMED—- spiritual and mental torment) with the fire and brimstone (GOD’S
DIVINE SPIRITUAL FIRE) in the presence of the HOLY ANGELS and in the presence
of the LAMB.

T hey are going to have to face their sins and wickedness and hypocrisy, not in
the presence of God Almighty but in the presence of the Lamb.
How EMBARRASSING and SHAMEFUL it will be for all those being purged in God’s
Spiritual Consuming Lake Of Fire to see and acknowledge their whole life of sin
in the presence of the Lamb of God WHO DIED FOR THEM .( All of us)

Every heart in the universe will melt like snow in a furnace when they face the Lamb
of God in their judgement.
There are no people suffering in the fabled fires of hell. It’s a Christian Hoax. It’s a lie. The Lake Of Spiritual Fire Will Bring Salvation to ALL NATIONS, YET SO AS BY FIRE.( 1 Cor. 3:15}

From Ray’s teaching …Sodom and Egypt in prophecy.

So to answer you  Porter… Isaiah 30: 12–17 and many more scriptures.

All who teach free will and all who believe they have it , will be punished.
That’s everyone. No one escapes God’s judgment. It will be the best thing that’s ever happened to humanity.

Dennis, here is another idea for a short however it might just be too profound.
But I did get it from one of Rays teachings. Maybe others remember this as well.

This is really an in your face shock to the mind if God opens eyes to it ,so you can
decide.

Luke 6:46…. Why do YOU call me Lord, Lord and do not the things that I say?

Well, who is the YOU  in this scripture? The Jews? The Muslims? The thousands of
atheists? The Buddhists, Hindus, etc,etc. Just who is it that calls Jesus Lord, Lord?

False doctrines are doctrines of demons, yes that’s true, but remember the
story Ray told us about the night he went to a church and it took five grown men to hold down this one woman who had Demons. Ray said “these things are real, don’t think they aren’t “I’m paraphrasing of course. Who remembers boke, booke and no ?
That was their names. Evil spirits are real . Ray said he don’t think they can manifest
into a human. Satan entered Judas. You know guys, I truly believe that God would not let Ray teach us anything that was not sound and Dennis I believe you do have
the power to rebuke Satan if you are one of God’s elect. Ray said there were
spiritual counterparts to all this physical stuff on earth even if some of it is perverted.
I think there’s a scripture in Hebrews 8 about it.
Psalm 78:49, speaks of evil angels among them.( ESV …. destroying angels) and what about the frogs in Exo.8: 2-14, I don’t think they were destroying frogs 😂.
Sorry about going on but I believe this subject is very important even if I am wrong.
God will correct me. My coming to Bible-truths was a spiritual nightmare —at first.
I can say for sure that I was turned over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh.
I was Job- ed . It was horrible. I have always pondered about giving details about
my experience but because I haven’t yet , I know this is God's will.
The Sovereignty of God for me is the most impressive and important and
beautiful thing that one can never imagine until experienced, even though frightening
at times, but it also comes with many blessings. In Guilty of all and other teachings
Ray said you have to know what you are. After these years with Bible truths I still
study THE MYTH OF FREE WILL . It is the most eye opening jolt or shock in the
nature of the beast, human behaviour that blows my mind every time I study it
and I study it a lot. We are physical beings having a spiritual experience.
This experience is not sugar and spice and everything nice. Not trying to scare you
but we already know who the god of this world is and why God uses him/ it ,so it should be no surprise how far that it can go . There is much to be gleaned from
all of Rays teachings and to quote Ray , we have to pay attention to all the words.
I’ve learned to pay attention not just to the words of scripture but to the words
Ray spoke. There is a scripture that says “ I have many things to tell you but you
can’t know them yet” many things. Everything is perfectly timed so take heart and
know that you are precious people to God and God didn’t raise no pansies 😁
Our books are already written, Only God is in control of every aspect of your life and all humanity. Nothing is out of control, nothing. But, but it is not perceived that way
by the world . Everything will turn out perfectly. 777😁