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Title: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: vicolive on November 21, 2007, 09:06:30 AM: I thank you all for being most helpful to me,as Im new to the forum and have been re-learning many truths it has put me on a new journey.Please bare with me....
I always believed that God knew our time of birth,therefore the time and date of death,as God is all knowing...it has been brought to my attention that no where in the bible does it say that God knows the date we shall die,it was also said from my good meaning friend that 'Yes He is all knowing but chooses not to have that date in His mind... now Im really confused..
Is there a scripture please that states God does in fact know the exact 'appointed' time of each of our deaths?
Thank you
V.
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: rjsurfs on November 21, 2007, 10:08:41 AM: Hello V,

Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecc 3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted...

If you want to read this further and understand... it is part of Ray's Lake of Fire Part XV-D:
http://bible-truths.com/lake15-D.html

Here is a teaser:

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The whole point of Ecclesiastes chapter three is not that people are born and die, or that people plant and harvest, or that people war and make peace, or that people weep and laugh, but rather that there is "an APPOINTED TIME" for all these things to happen—an appointed time appointed BY GOD.

This is not a new idea, or a new revelation. This truth has been preserved in chapter three of Ecclesiastes for a couple of thousand years. But how many Christians believe it?

Bobby
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: hillsbororiver on November 21, 2007, 10:10:51 AM: Hi V,

There is nothing outside of God's plan and purpose, there is an appointed time for everything in God's Universe.

Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.

Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

Ecc 3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

His Peace to you,

Joe
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: hillsbororiver on November 21, 2007, 10:12:42 AM: Good morning Bobby,

I see we posted almost simultaneously, great answer by the way! ;)

His Peace to you Brother,

Joe
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: vicolive on November 21, 2007, 10:33:46 AM: Yes, yes ,,thank you so much,I always stood on that word.I am reading all of Ray's teachings and the truth is being revealed.Its just hard,after so many years of sitting under pastors and being misled.I am thankful for the wake-up call.....and for all the answers everyone so freely gives and helps with in this forum..
V.
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Craig on November 21, 2007, 10:41:12 AM: Quote
my good meaning friend that 'Yes He is all knowing but chooses not to have that date in His mind

I'm glad you are opening your mind to learning the truths of God.

I couldn't let what your friend said pass though. Do you see how ridiculous that statement is???? God knows but he doesn't know? Christian gobbledygook at its finest. To swallow the lies of christiandom you must check your brain at the door. God does not want us to check or brains at the door, he gave them to us and we are expected to use them.

Craig
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: hillsbororiver on November 21, 2007, 10:57:41 AM: Amen Craig!
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Sorin on November 21, 2007, 11:08:57 AM: Vicolive, not only does God know the date and time of our death, but he also knows exactly how we will die because He is the one that takes it. The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh. See Job 1:21

If the very hairs on our heads are numbered, surely our time here on earth is numbered down to the last milliseconds.
So if God didn't know the date and time of our death, then He wouldn't be All Knowing. Even if He "chooses to not know" He couldn't be "all knowing" because there's something He does not know. In order to be All Knowing, you must know everything.

Craig is absolutely right, that statement by your friend is ridiculous at the very least. And it indeed is "Christian gobbledygook at its finest"

Peace,

Sorin
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: vicolive on November 21, 2007, 11:36:54 AM: Thanks all, I just re-read lake series -D........To Me 'All Knowing would indeed cover that aspect of time of death.Its just amazing that some can twist Gods word to make it so convincing... After being misled and then the teachings of JW'S I truthfully say that I have become doubleminded,so thankful to have come across Rays site.....Time for me to use that brain Craig...
Thanks
V
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Craig on November 21, 2007, 11:40:48 AM: Quote
it has been brought to my attention that no where in the bible does it say that God knows the date we shall die

Also don't let your "friends" play this game with you either. Nowhere in scripture does is say Jesus used the bathroom, but obviously He did. Just because scripture does not make a statement on something does not make it less true. The sovereignty of God is spoken all through scripture.

Craig
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: vicolive on November 21, 2007, 11:46:03 AM: So much truth you all speak,I pray also for GODS wisdom in such/all matters...
On my way to recovery.
My thanks again....for your time and the truth, Gods word speaks through you all...
V.
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on November 21, 2007, 03:52:05 PM: Hello V

My favourate is this one.

Rev 1 : 17 Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead and behold I am alive for ever and ever! AND I HOLD THE KEYS OF DEATH AND HADES.

At our peril, we call Christ a liar! :D ;D

In blindness there is no light......

Peace be to you

Arcturus :)
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Chris R on November 21, 2007, 09:21:29 PM: Hi all,

Interesting enough, and while we are all sure that Gods plan is not going to change one iota, and that our "fate" is already sealed, dont go skydiving without a parachute just yet!

And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Mat 4:6-7

Surley God knows the hour of our death, but just as surely WE do not!

Sometimes this type of thinking can mess with our reasoning.
No it's not going to change Gods plan, but then again me writing this post isnt by accident either.

Gods knowledge is not our knowledge, we had better heed these words, And not worry about what tommorrow may bring.

"If'n ya understand what i'm saying"

Chris R
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: musicman on November 22, 2007, 12:27:42 PM: Quote from: Craig on November 21, 2007, 11:40:48 AM
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it has been brought to my attention that no where in the bible does it say that God knows the date we shall die

Also don't let your "friends" play this game with you either. Nowhere in scripture does is say Jesus used the bathroom, but obviously He did. Just because scripture does not make a statement on something does not make it less true. The sovereignty of God is spoken all through scripture.

Craig

Jesus went to the bathroom?!!!!
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Beloved on November 22, 2007, 01:47:54 PM: Music man Jesus took on human flesh therfore he had human body that functioned just like ours did He even talked about this very subject

(Mat 15:11 CLV) Not that which is entering into the mouth is contaminating a man, but that which is going out of the mouth, this is contaminating a man."

(Mat 15:12 CLV) Then, approaching, the disciples said to Him, "Are you aware that the Pharisees, at hearing the word, are snared?"
(Mat 15:13 CLV) Now He, answering, said, "Every plant which is not planted by My heavenly Father shall be uprooted.
(Mat 15:14 CLV) Leave them! Blind guides are they of the blind! Now if the blind should be guiding the blind, both shall be falling into a pit."

(Mat 15:15 CLV) Now, answering, Peter said to Him, "Decipher for us the parable."
(You see even this particular life event was a parable)

(Mat 15:16 CLV) Yet He said, "Are you also unintelligent at this point?
I love this last line to his disciples and todays readers

(Mat 15:17 CLV) Not as yet are you apprehending that everything that is going into the mouth is becoming the contents of the bowels, and is being evacuated into the latrine?

Your mouth and intestines are in direct contact with the environment and are outside your body (just like skin is)

(Mat 15:18 CLV) Now those things going out of the mouth (vocolazition), out of the heart are coming, and those things are contaminating a man.

(Mat 15:19 CLV) For out of the heart are coming wicked reasonings, murders, adulteries, prostitutions, thefts, false testimonies, calumnies.

(Mat 15:20 CLV) These are those which are contaminating a man. Now to be eating with unwashed hands is not contaminating a man."

Now as a physician v 15:20 always bothered me.. not washing your hands can lead to all kinds of food poisoning etc....
but we have to remember that God is in control and we need to think spiritually ...our real bread/meat is spiritual and is from God's Hands which are pure,

In regard to the germ world we live in I now realize that God is in total control and those that get sick from these sort of things are part of his plan too. It use to really puzzle me when people in the course of their day did all kinds of things (baby's eating things off the ground, circumscion tattoo butchering milking animals etc) then and even sometimes now .....that we today would considered them "dirty" pocedures ...

I was amazed that many people (although a few did) that these people did not become badly infected....when scientifically we know that they should have. Make me ponder that God must have somehow either inactivated the germs or increased the immune system of the person etc.

It is hard when we are in the flesh to have to deal with uncomfortable and embarassing topics areas like bowel function etc but the bible is replete with many of them ;D golden hemorrhoids, farts, mensrtural pads etc. It all shows us that God is aware of all of these things too.

I used to think God had a great sense of humor but now I also appreciate the fact that God will use humor as a hook to catch some people's attention and make them ponder or these things or for the many these things become buried questions or doubts in the minds of those who are blind or deaf to His word....they are snares.

And yes I agree with Ray in his emails .....Satan had no penis (not in the scriptures per se. Satan so totally despises and hates human beings that I doubt that he would ever engage in any physical activity with them since he believe that they are inferior to himself.
He can do more damage as an accuser and he has many ways to influence the physical lives of humans ...the demons who serve Satan on the other hand... have possessed folks.

Beloved (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/kngt.gif)
Every thing in the physical is recycled only man is embarressed by it
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: gmik on November 25, 2007, 04:53:49 PM: ;DMusicman????I am waiting a hilarious reply to Beloved!!!! :D

(honestly, I never thought about some of those things!)
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: aqrinc on June 08, 2009, 02:16:01 PM: Quote from: Arcturus on November 21, 2007, 03:52:05 PM
Hello V

My favourate is this one.

Rev 1 : 17 Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead and behold I am alive for ever and ever! AND I HOLD THE KEYS OF DEATH AND HADES.

At our peril, we call Christ a liar! :D ;D

In blindness there is no light......

Peace be to you

Arcturus :)

Old Thread, current information.

Interesting that this is a subject i have been thinking about lately. Isn't it Marvelous to see the very intricate planning and detail that is designed into our daily existence By GOD And .

Isa 55: 8-11 (CLV)
8 For not as My devices are your devices, and not as your ways are My ways,averring is Yahweh."
9 For as the heavens are loftier than the earth, so are My ways loftier than your ways, and my devices than your devices."
10 For, as descending is the downpour and the snow from the heavens, yet there it is not returning, but rather soaks the earth, and causes it to bear and to sprout, and gives seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
11 so shall be My word which shall fare forth from My mouth. It shall not return to Me empty, but rather, it does that which I desire, and prospers in that for which I sent it."

george. :)
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Robin on June 08, 2009, 05:04:31 PM: Psalm 139:15-17 (New International Version)

15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,

16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.

17 How precious to me are your thoughts, O God!
How vast is the sum of them!
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Linny on June 08, 2009, 05:25:53 PM: Thank you M.G.! I KNEW that was in there someplace but couldn't remember where!!! :-[
Lin
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: G. Driggs on June 08, 2009, 05:36:31 PM: Quote from: Beloved on November 22, 2007, 01:47:54 PM
Music man Jesus took on human flesh therfore he had human body that functioned just like ours did He even talked about this very subject

(Mat 15:11 CLV) Not that which is entering into the mouth is contaminating a man, but that which is going out of the mouth, this is contaminating a man."

(Mat 15:12 CLV) Then, approaching, the disciples said to Him, "Are you aware that the Pharisees, at hearing the word, are snared?"
(Mat 15:13 CLV) Now He, answering, said, "Every plant which is not planted by My heavenly Father shall be uprooted.
(Mat 15:14 CLV) Leave them! Blind guides are they of the blind! Now if the blind should be guiding the blind, both shall be falling into a pit."

(Mat 15:15 CLV) Now, answering, Peter said to Him, "Decipher for us the parable."
(You see even this particular life event was a parable)

(Mat 15:16 CLV) Yet He said, "Are you also unintelligent at this point?
I love this last line to his disciples and todays readers

(Mat 15:17 CLV) Not as yet are you apprehending that everything that is going into the mouth is becoming the contents of the bowels, and is being evacuated into the latrine?

Your mouth and intestines are in direct contact with the environment and are outside your body (just like skin is)

(Mat 15:18 CLV) Now those things going out of the mouth (vocolazition), out of the heart are coming, and those things are contaminating a man.

(Mat 15:19 CLV) For out of the heart are coming wicked reasonings, murders, adulteries, prostitutions, thefts, false testimonies, calumnies.

(Mat 15:20 CLV) These are those which are contaminating a man. Now to be eating with unwashed hands is not contaminating a man."

Now as a physician v 15:20 always bothered me.. not washing your hands can lead to all kinds of food poisoning etc....
but we have to remember that God is in control and we need to think spiritually ...our real bread/meat is spiritual and is from God's Hands which are pure,

In regard to the germ world we live in I now realize that God is in total control and those that get sick from these sort of things are part of his plan too. It use to really puzzle me when people in the course of their day did all kinds of things (baby's eating things off the ground, circumscion tattoo butchering milking animals etc) then and even sometimes now .....that we today would considered them "dirty" pocedures ...

I was amazed that many people (although a few did) that these people did not become badly infected....when scientifically we know that they should have. Make me ponder that God must have somehow either inactivated the germs or increased the immune system of the person etc.

Beloved (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/kngt.gif)
Every thing in the physical is recycled only man is embarressed by it

Wow! Thank you for bringing this old topic back. It caused me to find a second witness, and here it is.

Mar 7:1 And gathering to Him are the Pharisees and some of the scribes coming from Jerusalem.
Mar 7:2 And perceiving some of His disciples, that with contaminated (that is, unwashed) hands they eat bread"
Mar 7:3 (for the Pharisees and all the Jews, if ever they should not be washing the hands with the fist, are not eating, holding the tradition of the elders;"
Mar 7:4 and from the market, except they should be sprinkled, they are not eating; and many other things are there which they accepted to hold, the baptizing of cups and ewers and copper vessels and of couches),
Mar 7:5 the Pharisees also, and the scribes are inquiring of Him, "Wherefore are not your disciples walking according to the tradition of the elders, but with unwashed hands are eating bread?
Mar 7:6 Yet He, answering, said to them that "Ideally prophesies Isaiah concerning you hypocrites, as it is written, that This people with their lips is honoring Me, Yet their heart is away at a distance from Me."
Mar 7:7 Yet in vain are they revering Me, teaching for teachings the directions of men."
Mar 7:8 For, leaving the precept of God, you are holding the tradition of men of the baptism of ewers and cups. And many such like things you are doing."
Mar 7:9 And He said to them, "Ideally are you repudiating the precept of God, that you should be keeping your tradition."
Mar 7:10 For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, He who is saying aught that is evil of father or mother, let him decease in death."
Mar 7:11 Yet you are saying, 'If a man should be saying to father or mother, "A corban (which is an approach present) is whatsoever you may be benefitted by me,'"
Mar 7:12 no longer are you letting him do anything for his father or his mother,
Mar 7:13 invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you give over. And many such like things you are doing."
Mar 7:14 And calling the throng to Him again, He said to them, "Hear Me, all, and understand."
Mar 7:15 Nothing is there outside of a man, going into him, which can contaminate him, but those things going out of a man are what is contaminating the man."
Mar 7:16 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!"
Mar 7:17 And when He entered into the house from the throng, His disciples inquired of Him concerning the parable."
Mar 7:18 And He is saying to them, "Are you, also, thus unintelligent? Not yet are you apprehending that everything from the outside, that is going into a man, can not contaminate him,
Mar 7:19 for it is not going into his heart, but into the bowels, and is going out into the latrine - cleansing all foods?
Mar 7:20 Yet He said that "That which is going out of a man, that is contaminating the man."
Mar 7:21 For from inside, out of the heart of men, are going out evil reasonings, prostitutions, thefts, murders,
Mar 7:22 adulteries, greed, wickedness, guile, wantonness, a wicked eye, calumny, pride, imprudence."
Mar 7:23 All these wicked inside things are going out; and those are contaminating the man."

I tried looking for this in the KJV but could not find it, but it seems it was a little easier to find in the CLV. Thanks, must study this a little more now.

Peace and Love, G.Driggs
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: G. Driggs on June 08, 2009, 05:50:48 PM: Quote from: Linny on June 08, 2009, 05:25:53 PM
Thank you M.G.! I KNEW that was in there someplace but couldn't remember where!!! :-[
Lin

Wow, seems you were blessed by this old topic too Linny. Isnt God just awesome?! Truly all the glory is His!
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: MePogo on June 08, 2009, 07:56:46 PM: Wow! lots of great responses to this question. You folks are awesome, sometimes funny, and giving much good food for thought. So many things happen in real life...people who overslept and missed a flight or changed their minds about a trip, etc. I don't believe in coincidence at all. I know these stories prove nothing but to my mind, they mean that God has something in mind for these people to accomplish or learn.

When I think of awful things I went through in my life (at 66 I've had the normal number of hurts and worries) I can look back and understand why these things were for my benefit. In the worst of events, I can now say "thank you" to God for unanswered prayers. How great it is that He is in charge of my life and not me. Often it takes many years to understand but eventually it becomes clear. My one question is "why do we pray for a sick person to survive?" Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask for strength to endure what you must? Now I'm even thinking that the only appropriate prayer is "Thank You for the strength."

Hugs to all,
Pogo
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: aqrinc on June 08, 2009, 11:47:51 PM: Quote from: MePogo on June 08, 2009, 07:56:46 PM
Wow! lots of great responses to this question. You folks are awesome, sometimes funny, and giving much good food for thought. So many things happen in real life...people who overslept and missed a flight or changed their minds about a trip, etc. I don't believe in coincidence at all. I know these stories prove nothing but to my mind, they mean that God has something in mind for these people to accomplish or learn.

When I think of awful things I went through in my life (at 66 I've had the normal number of hurts and worries) I can look back and understand why these things were for my benefit. In the worst of events, I can now say "thank you" to God for unanswered prayers. How great it is that He is in charge of my life and not me. Often it takes many years to understand but eventually it becomes clear. My one question is "why do we pray for a sick person to survive?" Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask for strength to endure what you must? Now I'm even thinking that the only appropriate prayer is "Thank You for the strength."

Hugs to all,
Pogo

Hi Pogo,

First Welcome back to the Forum, here is the topic of Prayer from Ray's paper:

Excerpt from: Praying by God's Rules

http://bible-truths.com/praying.htm

God’s Prayer Rules are Simple but Not Easy]

Few subjects in the Bible are more mysterious or less understood than the subject of prayer. Few indeed know how to pray or what to pray about. And what is the proof of that statement? The proof is that most prayers are never answered. Hundreds of millions of people a day pray in vain. They get no answer to their prayers. Why is this? Is there an answer as to why most prayers go unanswered? Absolutely, there is. Will most people accept the only and true Scriptural teaching on this subject? I’m afraid most will not.

There are many cliches regarding prayer, and some are absolutely true. It is said that God has one of three answers for all prayers: "Yes, No, or Later." This is basically, albeit not totally true. This one might be closer to the truth: "Your way, My way, or No way."

There is an interesting essay on prayer in which it is stated: "I got nothing that I asked for, but everything that I could have ever hoped for." That may make for a nice sentiment, but few would ever believe such a thing deep in their heart. Most people do not believe that they got everything in life that they could have ever hoped for.

Christians and heathens alike, ignorantly and stupidly believe that they can change the mind of a Sovereign God Who always knows long in advance how He will fulfill His perfect plan and purpose under every and all circumstances. Many imagine that answered prayer is when God changes His mind with regards to the way things were going in your life. In other words: You change your ways to please God, and God will change His mind and begin blessing you. NOT TRUE. God never, ever changes His mind about anything.

This subject of unanswered prayer is so incredibly simple that a child can understand it, yet many learned theologians and clergymen have not even a clue as to the ultimate Scriptural statement regarding prayer. I will first give you the number one pre-requisite to having prayers answered, and then I will give you a most amazing second witness from a Scripture that is preserved in very few Bible translations.

THE GREATEST DRAMA OF THE AGES

If you like drama, then Matt. 26:36 is the place to find it. Few pay close attention to what is really going on in these few verses of Scripture. The humanity of Jesus is brought into direct conflict with the will of His God and Father. First I will jump ahead of our story slightly so that you understand the setting of this greatest of all prayers in the history of the universe. After praying for one hour Jesus returns a short way back to His Apostles and says:

"Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak" (Matt.

george.
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: lauriellen on June 09, 2009, 11:56:34 AM: This is one of the subjects that brought me to this sight. When you loose a child, you go through so much guilt, and "what if's", and "if only's".......it is hard not to think that if only you had done something differently, that you could have saved your child......
I even read a book about "where is God in all the sufferring"...and it basically said that God just "allows" things to happen, and some things are basically out of His control, or that He CHOOSES not to control them, and He is never the cause of evil. This just didn't ring true for me either.
After reading and studying much of the material here, the truth is clear, that God IS in control, He uses both GOOD and EVIL for His purposes, and there is NOTHING i could have done to change the outcome or add 1 day to my sons life, even though i have prayed for my childrens safety and protection EVERY DAY! Although i know this is true down to the core, it is also hard to accept.
I may never know the "why's", but i still must trust.
Just thought i would give another perspective to this subject.
lauriellen
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Beloved on June 12, 2009, 10:10:26 PM: Really funny of you George to revive this post... :D :D :D For those who do not know me, I was having fun with musicman sense of humor.

Gosh I almost forgot about this post I stopped using emoticons a long time ago...that one above just fit the musicman's remark.

Since I did not address the question asked here goes

There are numerous scriptures that show that God know the time of our beginning and our end

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

This scripture goes with all of the Alpha and Omega scriptures...All things in time are known by Our creator.

Jesus himself tells us that the time is known

(Luk 12:19) And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

(Luk 12:20) But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

then there is

Psa 39:4 LORD, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am

God cannot teach you if He did not already know the time

Beloved
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: aqrinc on June 12, 2009, 10:34:34 PM: beloved,

The topic was being watched by a guest when i first read it and thought, this does have much to do with todays trials.

Words to live or die by, since like The Apostle paul wrote:

Php 1: 19-26 (CLV)
19 For I am aware that, for me, this will be eventuating in salvation through your petition and the supply of the spirit of Jesus Christ,
20 in accord with my premonition and expectation, that in nothing shall I be put to shame, but with all boldness, as always, now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether through life or through death."
21 For to me to be living is Christ, and to be dying, gain."
22 Now if it is to be living in flesh, this to me means fruit from work, and what I shall be preferring I am not making known."
23 (Yet I am being pressed out of the two, having a yearning for the solution and to be together with Christ, for it, rather, is much better.)"
24 Yet to be staying in the flesh is more necessary because of you.
25 And, having this confidence, I am aware that I shall be remaining and shall be abiding with you all for your progress and joy of faith,
26 that your glorying may be superabounding in Christ Jesus in me through my presence with you again.

george. :)
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: Beloved on June 12, 2009, 11:01:18 PM: Not being critcal of you george...just found it funny ;D. The topic was indeed a good one.

This was an excellent example of how a good topic can be side swiped...I bit musicman's hook.

My point at the time was to clarify that these bodily functions we are sometimes embarssed by and that come up in scriptures are ...a matter of fact ...for Our Creator.

I am glad for the opportunity to add to the answer of the original topic.

beloved
Title: Re: Does God know our date/time of death?
Post by: firefly77 on June 13, 2009, 12:31:20 AM: Jacobs Ladder:
Thank you for sharing some of your experiences and how it might relate to being a merciful and understanding judge... How could we ever understand without having had some of the same personal experiences.

Heb 4:15

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. (KJV)

This is a beautiful scripture to keep in mind.

Angie