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 on: Today at 01:10:37 AM 
Started by largeli - Last post by indianabob
Friend Jesse,
Thanks for filling in the scriptures that make it clearer, for all to understand.-

Much appreciated, Indiana bob

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 on: Yesterday at 12:40:19 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Extol
Dennis I have a question for that one, bible says God respects no man, how is it then He can give anybody this wisdom and not everyone. Bible clearly shows He respects some people over others. This pastors word tell me he is mad at God for something.

Dear Ricky,

Though the "respecter of persons" verses are often used by people to show that God doesn't "play favorites," they are talking about how Gentiles are not inferior to Jews when it comes to being eligible to receive salvation, nor are Jews superior to Gentiles when it comes to the Judgment.

Acts 10:30-35

30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,

31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.

32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.

33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.


Peter realized God is "no respecter of persons" because this revelation was coming from a Gentile, a Roman centurion.

Galatians 2:6-8 (NIV)

6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message.

7 On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised.

 8 For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles.


Acts 15:7-9

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.



Romans 2:6-11


6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there is no respect of persons with God
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 on: Yesterday at 02:12:37 AM 
Started by largeli - Last post by indianabob
Dennis I have a question for that one, bible says God respects no man, how is it then He can give anybody this wisdom and not everyone. Bible clearly shows He respects some people over others. This pastors word tell me he is mad at God for something.

Ricky,
If I understand your point, my answer would be that God does give wisdom to everyone at the best time for them, according to God's love and desire to have them share in His plan for mankind. Some in this age who will be pioneers tasked with the responsibility to go ahead of the others to prepare the way and the rest to come into the family later when the preparation has been accomplished.

But humans are impatient and all want their salvation presented the way they think is better. Like wanting to be an adult before maturity.
Consider all the prophets of old who wanted to know more than God gave them, but had to die and wait in the grave for all this time, never having received the promises but trusting that all would be accomplished as God had said.

Indiana Bob

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 on: December 13, 2017, 09:20:59 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Dennis I have a question for that one, bible says God respects no man, how is it then He can give anybody this wisdom and not everyone. Bible clearly shows He respects some people over others. This pastors word tell me he is mad at God for something.

If anything God chooses those who are not respected:

1Co 1:26  For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

1Co 1:27  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1Co 1:28  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

1Co 1:29  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

The day is coming when everyone will have this wisdom.

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 on: December 13, 2017, 08:44:08 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Ricky
Dennis I have a question for that one, bible says God respects no man, how is it then He can give anybody this wisdom and not everyone. Bible clearly shows He respects some people over others. This pastors word tell me he is mad at God for something.

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 on: December 13, 2017, 05:24:15 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Mat 13:11  He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

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 on: December 13, 2017, 05:14:47 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by largeli
Had an email exchange with an old church friend of mine who now pastors a church. I was bringing up some basic questions about Christian doctrine and in the course of one of his replies to me he said something like “if Adam hadn’t eaten of that ungodly fruit..”

The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They think it’s ungodly.

You guys have any thoughts on that?

You can talk to him once of twice but after that you are casting pearls before swine.

Ray has a lot to say about trying to convince anyone of anything, especially a pastor.

Ya you’re right.

I was questioning my own motives over the course of our exchanges. I really didn’t want to be that guy who tries to convince someone to change their beliefs.. I feel gross just thinking about it.

Initially I was just responding to an offer he put up on Facebook. He posted one of his sermons and asked people to give it a listen and he said he’d love to talk to anyone who wanted to discuss the topic. The topic was “why go to church?” and I figured I’d oblige, so I emailed him and we began to discuss why I dont go to church anymore.

The church we went to together was not a “Hell” preaching church and I honestly wasn’t even sure if my friend believed in “Hell”. That’s partly why I wanted to talk with him. I remember being told about “Hell” as a kid in a different church but I’d never heard it preached as an adult.

After a couple exchanges, I did learn that this friend did believe in “Hell” but reluctantly so. He follows the liberal style of Christianity that we both were accustomed to in our old church, so he doesn’t teach or preach it and he doesn’t give it much thought either... that’s kinda the topic I’m chewing on in this thread.. they (Christians) don’t think about how much their doctrines are not scriptural.

I’ve been thinking about how church has a culture of discouraging questions or independent thinking apart from the group. And how believing that the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is ungodly, factors in to the culture of not seeking knowledge and not questioning authority.

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 on: December 13, 2017, 01:17:06 PM 
Started by Rolihlahla - Last post by Extol
Jesus will come quickly.

We can die the next second. 

The next moment we will awake in the Resurrection.

Our time is very short.  We are just a breathe away from seeing God.

Although, we are within God now.  Paul wrote that within God we live and work and have our being.

Great point, John. If our Saviour does not return until AD 5000, it is not nearly that far away for us, for the simple reason we won't live nearly that long. The longest any of us will have to wait is a few decades, and for some of the more mature members, it will be much sooner than that.

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 on: December 13, 2017, 12:46:36 PM 
Started by Rolihlahla - Last post by Wanda
Thank you for sharing Bob. Your walk with God has been very fruitfull. I pray your path continues to get even brighter.

Your friend in Jesus :)

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 on: December 13, 2017, 12:42:37 PM 
Started by largeli - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Had an email exchange with an old church friend of mine who now pastors a church. I was bringing up some basic questions about Christian doctrine and in the course of one of his replies to me he said something like “if Adam hadn’t eaten of that ungodly fruit..”

The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They think it’s ungodly.

You guys have any thoughts on that?

You can talk to him once of twice but after that you are casting pearls before swine.

Ray has a lot to say about trying to convince anyone of anything, especially a pastor.

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