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Hello everyone,
Can I get some prayers for Silvia? She started having severe panic and anxiety attacks a couple of months ago. I have gone through this many years ago and it is a very real and frightening thing.
I had to take her to the emergency room last week with severe stomach pains that turned out to be a panic attack. Its so amazing the power of the mind so to speak. According to what I've read and know from personal experience, panic attacks start with negative thinking, or one's perception of day to day life situations. On the other hand it seems to be also a spiritual thing for sure. Fear is the opposite of faith and has power just as faith has power. Please keep her in your prayers.
Roy
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I will be praying for her. I already started actually. :)
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Roy, you know that I will keep Sylvia in my prayers..
Kathy :)
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Roy, so sorry to hear this. My husband suffered from these when we first married right after his dad had died. He went to see a guy who was studying them and he taught him to breath differently. He showed him that simply by breathing wrong, he could bring one on.
If she is feeling one coming on, she needs to start deep breathing. You take a deep breath in but not till incomfortable then you pace yourself breathing out (like 10 sec out.) slowly. Amazing how this works.
Tobin recently had these come back on him and this is what he did. First, he started taking control of his thought life. He MADE himself think of positive things when we was going the other direction. Kind of like plucking out the bad and tossing them away.
Second, and he swears by this. He went off sugar. Yep, amazing how much damage the white stuff can do.
Praying for her!!
Lin
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2 Corinthians 10:4-5
4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; KJV
Here is our struggle when we do battle for our minds, our thoughts are powerful and so is our imagination..fear takes over, it's crippling and can destroy our life...
My mind is taken over by fear on occasion..it's a terrible thing..
Kathy :-\
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Roy, so sorry to hear this. My husband suffered from these when we first married right after his dad had died. He went to see a guy who was studying them and he taught him to breath differently. He showed him that simply by breathing wrong, he could bring one on.
If she is feeling one coming on, she needs to start deep breathing. You take a deep breath in but not till incomfortable then you pace yourself breathing out (like 10 sec out.) slowly. Amazing how this works.
Tobin recently had these come back on him and this is what he did. First, he started taking control of his thought life. He MADE himself think of positive things when we was going the other direction. Kind of like plucking out the bad and tossing them away.
Second, and he swears by this. He went off sugar. Yep, amazing how much damage the white stuff can do.
Praying for her!!
Lin
Hello Roy,
Sorry to hear about Sylvia, Linny mentioned sugar, which brought to mind someone having a lack of B Vitamins, sugar destroys B vitamins and I'm not just referrring to table sugar, but all refined carbohydrates. Try to get a Bcomplex vitamin that has at least 50mg of all the B vitamins, one with 100mg would be better, to be taken three times per day. That would not include Vitamin b-12 in that dosage, because most Vitamin distributors don't sell the Bcomplex with very much B-12, usually it has B-12 in micrograms. Thiamine(B-1) & Niacin are especially good against depression and mental health issues.
Make sure she's taking a good Multiple mineral pill, with all the minerals. As Dr. Steger pointed out, Vitamins won't work effectively if there is a Mineral defiency. I stopped taking Minerals for awhile and my joints started bothering me and after 4 days of taking a good dosage multi Mineral tablet, my joints have improved immensely. Also, Women especially require Calsium, the RDA is 1,200 mg a day. If the Government says you need 1,200 mg a day as a minimum, you probably need more. My Wife started taking the Mineral tablets too and her yawning has reduced from a million a day(only kidding) to once a day. This is just a suggestion, but take it from a guy who has suffered bouts of depression periodically throughout their life, thank God for B Vitamins. Dr. Steger made another good point in his presentation at the conference: If you don't feel good physically, you can't anyone else, including yourself.
My prayers go out to Sylvia and may God heal her and help her, sorry if I was alittle preachy, just trying to help.
KInd Regards, Samson.
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Thanks everyone. Be sure to know that I will pass this info and your help and concerns to Silvia. Actually! She is going to read your replies herself. Might be one of the best things for her to get involved on the forum.
No Sampson you were not preaching. Its good to see you posting again, and you too rockrdude.
Peace and love
Roy
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tell her,keep the faith,will through it.
pray for her.
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Will pray for Silvia Roy,
I know first hand these are aweful to endure!
YSIC,
Brenda
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you got it brother....keep us posted on the healing results
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roy,
i too will lift up your sylvia in prayer. my daughter also was taken to the emerg. room a couple of years ago because her fiancee thought she was having a heart attack. but, it was diagnosed as panic attack/anxiety disorder. after studying up on these, she has found that when changing her breathing technique and her thought processes, she is able to control the attacks. of course, the dr.s tried to put her on this pill then that pill, but she refused the drugs and prefers to address the problem instead of trying to cover it up with meds. like dr. steger said at the conference, acidic drugs being put into our acidic bodies do not work.
don't give up hope sylvia, we are here for you.
claudia
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Hi Roy, I will pray for Silvia. I had some of these attacks after I had my blood infection that could have killed me. I also, had some after my Father passed away. I believe God used these things to have me question the teachings of Babylon.
It is a very hard thing to overcome. I have been under alot of stress lately with my niece, my Mother has been having some health problems. My Husband looks tired cause he works so hard especially this time of year. That, mind of our can get us to imagnine almost anything. I hate fear. It is on the TV set every time it is turned on. My Mother watches CNN and other news items that I think is not good to listen to. Does not seem to bother her. But, it does me. I hate it and do not want my head fed this on a daily bases. I try and go to another room or do things in the house or read the Bible or Ray's articles.
You have been given such good advice. I try and focus on the things of God and his love for me and all humanity. That, he never leaves us or forsakes us.
Before, I never was sure of that. Thanks to finding Ray's website the Lord has opened my eyes and given me ears to hear.
It could be that God is wanting her to join the forum. I often find comfort when I read post or ask for prayers. I know, people in here love me.
In His Love,
Marlene
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Will remember Silvia in my prayers Roy. I have this fear of crowds sometimes so I kinda know how she feels. Sometimes just posting in this forum can get to me, but now I try to pray before coming in here and that helps.
Peace and Love
George D.
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Silvia says thank you to all of you.
Yesterday morning was a tough time for her. She came down crying and shaking and wanted me to hold her. I was sitting here reading the forum. I felt so sorry for her. I insisted that she sit here and read your replies and just say anything to you, but her hands were shaking too much. I knew that by doing this it would take her mind off of what was happening to her, but first I talked to her about how God is with her and will comfort her, and a story about how in the snap of a finger God delivered me from the same thing she is going through. It was a very good story. I also told her to read as many testimony's and prayer request she could. I left her to read, but from a distance was watching her. I could see her calming down. I looked away for a few minutes and looked back at her and her head was lowered as if she was a sleep. I could see a peace in her. She told me later after I talked to her more about fear and getting involved with the forum, and the wonderful people here that as she was reading, a sudden peace came over her. To make this short, she had a very good day, and slept a peaceful night last night. I'll know for sure in a little while. I'm always up 2 hours before her.
Her spells of what I think are spiritual attacks are not just mild or moderate. They totally take her to her knees with pain and fear and sorrow. Silvia has always been a strong and very responsible woman. She has never gone through this before. I've been telling her for 2 years that if she doesn't stop all of the stressing and worrying and nit picking about things that God will take it out of her one way or the other. Well this is exactly what is happening and now she knows it and is finding peace knowing that God is in control making her stronger even though its not a pleasant thing. Silvia takes very good care of herself, eating right and exercise, but the things she stresses about constantly represents the complete opposite of faith. She is constantly talking to God or thinking about Him, but her actions show no faith and this is why I know that she is having a spiritual battle that God is delivering her from. I know because He did me the exact same way, but in a much harsher way, and it was good when it was over, but it made me twice as strong and gave me much faith.
Sorry for the long thank you and description.
Roy
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Just said a prayer & will continue.
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Roy,
It's good to hear that Sylvia is better. Though God doesn't give us more than we can handle, we are guilty of taking on more than we should. Purging and purifying aren't pretty, but they are PROCESSES in which God brings about His will in our lives. This isn't the last lesson, but she WILL be stronger with the Faith that God has supplied(Eph 2:8) to handle her pain and suffering. You happen to be living proof of such to her.
May God enlighten you and Sylvia
Ches
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I thought she was doing better, but she gets to the point of complete breakdown. This morning she was laying in bed begging God to make it go away. We were at the movies the other day and had to leave because it came on her suddenly. She has real physical pain when this comes on her, but yet its not real. Those that have gone through this know what I'm talking about. I have said it seems all that I can say to her to lift her up, but these spells keep coming back. She battles them everyday. She knows its spiritual battle. Please everyone pray for her. It hurts to no end to see her suffering like this.She can seem ok one minute and the next be doubled over in pain and emotional havoc. I comfort her with talk of God and usually in a few minutes it goes away, but I'm not there with her at work. Well just now as she was leaving I told her that she is going to come here and introduce herself and testify herself of whats going on with her. But, but , but she said. I said no, but but but. I don't tell Silvia what to do, its not like that, but this time she has to do what I said. She is to the point of a mental hospital. Prior to this problem she was the strongest woman I ever met, and over night become to this point is definitely a shock to both of us. Her two sisters are going through the same thing. They were all molested repeatedly in every bazaar way you can think of by their father from the time that they can't even remember how young they were. He use to walk into their bedroom at night and say, which one of you will it be tonight? Is that sick or not? The stories are so horrible I can't bare to hear them. She has to come to all of you and share all of this and what she is going through. I know that God is watching over her and that he will bring her out of this to be stronger than before, but its on my shoulders too and I almost can't bare it alone. She needs all of you to pray and help and guide her. I promise you that you will hear from her within 24 hours. Please pray.
Roy
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Roy, I will be praying for Silvia..it`s painful knowing what her mental anguish is doing to her and to you. God is with you. I will pray for you too, you have us, my friend.. :'(
Kathy :-*
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Silvia grew up in Germany under the Catholic political system that doesn't teach about a loving God, but Silvia as a little girl use to pretend that God was her daddy because of what her father was doing to her. See how even as a little girl that knew not one thing about this wonderful God we have of how He was with her and comforted her in her little world of pretending which was really God all the time. It was the only escape she had. I wish all of you knew her as I do and could see the work God is doing in her.
Roy
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Roy, it sounds to me like Silvia is having to deal with the abuse of her childhood and release it once and for all. Most of us just play around with it a little at a time and bury it for the most part. I think perhaps God wants this period of her life to be dealt with and handed over to Him so He can continue the work He has planned for her life.
So as horrifying as this is right now for both of you, I can't help but feel like this season has an unimaginably great purpose that will forever change her life, and yours, for the better.
By the way, I spent 6 years working in a Psych hospital on a Child unit with abused children ages 3-12. I never know what is worse, the children who are pre-memory and have to deal with the traumas do deep in their minds or those like your precious wife who do remember. But either way, I think God is pulling this up and out and it has to come out.
May He bless you through this and give you peace.
Lin
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Thanks Linny. I have told Silvia these same words and she believes it, but from one minute to the next the fear of what if this or that knocks her to her knees and the only thing that brings her out of it is when I start talking to her about all of it being from God delivering her from all of these life time sorrows and fears just as you stated. I told her I announced that she will be introducing herself to all of you and that I have to come through on my word. She said but, shes good at that but thing. she said but I don't know what to say. I told her to start at the beginning of her life and tell it up to date, even if it takes several pages. I think that this is one of the best things she can do. I believe that God has directed me to push her to this or I wouldn't be doing it. Don't you think?
Roy
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Roy, you tell Silvia that we have been praying for her for a long time, now and she is dear to us because she is dear to you...You know that I have been praying for her and others have been, too! she is safe with us and you tell her that I will be praying that God will give her peace and calm her mind so she will be able to do what she has to do. with you all the way, buddy... :-*
Kathy :)
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Roy, I'm praying that Sylvia will be able to bring herself to the forum and that God will use this to heal her.
Geoff
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Roy, I will continue to pray for you and Silvia. God is in control of this situation. I am just so glad you both know the truth during this hard trial.
In His Love,
Marlene
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Perfect Love casts out fear, and my prayers are that our Father (Love) will cast these fears and pains out of her once and for all and give her (and her sisters) the peace they so desperately need. Silvia is in my prayers and she will remain in them.
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Roy, she does need to deal with this and she does need to work it out. I think that her coming here to gain support would be great but I wouldn't put the prerequisite in there for her to spill it all right away. Perhaps she could come say hi and be welcomed and slowly discuss anything she feels led to share as she goes?
Lin
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Last night Silvia started typing her testimony. It took her almost two hours just for one paragraph. She has never typed before, but I see her giving it her all as she looks for each letter with one finger.
She was shy about getting started, not knowing what to say or where to start. I suggested that she begin as far back in her life as she can remember, leaving nothing out. Her hands and body and face full off sorrow, I watched her from a distance as she began to type the memories that has brought her to what I believe to be a conclusion on the verge of deliverance.She is sharing with you what she has never even shared with me. I offered to type for her, but she insisted that she do it for herself. What she wrote last night wore her completely out and gave her a bad bad night, but she came down this morning, I was on the computer, she made her hot tea and said she was ready to type some more. She gave it at least an hour, and just as I was leaving, she hugged me ever so tight and thanked me for making her write to all of you what she is writing in her testimony. I'm not sure what she meant, but it was a good sign, don't you think?
It might be a few days before we get to read her testimony. She is typing very very slowly.
Thank you for your prayers from both of us.
Linny you might be right, but now that she has started, she insist on finishing.
Roy
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It might be a few days before we get to read her testimony.
Roy,
This will be worth the wait. God will use this for His glory and to help bring healing.. Of this I have no doubt.
Jonathan
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Roy, You know what the saying is..the longest journey begins with a single step..and once you begin to walk then God takes your hand and leads you the entire journey...YOU have taken her hand and you and God will walk her through it and we will be here to walk along with you! Like Jonathan said..it will be worth the wait, for you, for Silvia, and for us...God will reveal Himself to you and to Silvia in such a beautiful way! Believing.....Praying....for complete healing! :)
Kathy :-*
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She is looking forward to getting home in a few minutes to start typing again. Its like she has found something. I don't know how to explain it. I just know its good. I feel it deep in my heart that its very near the end of her lifetime of misery. Right now she has only two things to grab hold of, and that's God and us.
This thing attacks her literally physically with a pain that almost makes her scream in agony. It has came on her this past week with full force, not giving her much of a break but she still manages to go to work. What a battle she if fighting.
For those that have never been there, its the worst most darkest place your mind could ever go. For me, I would rather die than to ever have to go through that again. Just keep praying, and thank you.
Roy
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Eze 22:30
Roy, we are "standing in the gap" we will "make up the hedge"...tell Silvia...she has a hedge around her, a hedge of prayer and love... :)
Kathy
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Silvia had a horrible night with episodes of violent shaking and jerking, screaming and crying. She recently got zanax of which we both know is not good. It doesn't help her for very long but she is taking the minimum amount.She refuses to go to the doctor. She knows they will put her back on paxil of which she took for 10 years, but gave that up 3 years ago, and all seemed good, but its like all the bad things that her parents did to her has came to full explosion.She keeps asking me what to do and I'm to the point that I just don't know. I feel so helpless.She refuses to go to the doctor. She believes that God doesn't want her to take drugs. Please someone help. Three people have offered their help to her out of thousands of members. I'm beginning to ask where is God as I watch her fighting for peace and being at the verge of total loss of functionality physically and mentally.She can't sleep or eat. I'm just about ready to get really mad at God for her life time of suffering from her evil parents that God subjected her to.
Maybe some pms to her for those that God lays it on your heart, but the prayers must go on for sure.
Roy
PS. I'm going to share a small portion of her testimony with you. I know she won't mind.
Not only did her father molest her for many years; her mother would tell her she hated her and one time threw her down the stairs and then threw her pet guinea pig down the stairs with her. The mother was jealous that the father wouldn't have sex with her, but would with the little girls.
I see this little girl as I look at Silvia now suffering from more than we will know. she is going to give us just a small portion of what she remembers. The most amazing thing to me is that she has no hard feelings toward her parents of which she still loves very much. The father has been dead for many years and I admit that I'm glad he is. She still talks to her mother on the phone all the time. Her mother loves Silvia. I'm sure that the mother was also just another one of his victims that dealt with it the only way she knew how or didn't know. Oh what a mess.
Forgive me for rambling on.
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Roy, God is there...I'm praying....hang on...God will give her the breakthrough...I know He will..
Kathy
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I hope I didn't sound ungrateful for your prayers. I know many are praying that I'm not aware of.
I'm just tired this morning.
Roy
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I didn't think so Roy. To me you just sounded like someone down because someone you love was hurting. Like Kathy said, Hang on, the Lord is with you both and all of us are praying.
Blessings,
Suzie
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Never did it occur to me that God is simply dressing Silvia in His armor. Both of us are starting to see the blessing in this. I see this and witness a wonderful supernatural act delivering Silvia from bondage.
I wish I could give you a step by step report of what I'm seeing as God is revealing so many things to her. I'm telling you its Gods words in action. She is no longer asking God to take it away, nor for strength. There are so many scriptures being applied in this eye witness account that it has me overwhelmed to no end.
The bible tells us to put on the full armor of God, but has it ever occurred to anyone that we can't do that? Only God can do that because the armor is God, His word, the righteousness, truth,preparation of the gospel of peace, and faith. Yesterday Silvia was trying to tell me that its like she has the tools but couldn't use them and that's when it hit me about the full armor of God.
When I went through what Silvia is going through, I was on the inside, and it took several years for me to look back to see what God had done in me, but now its so much different being a witness and seeing it done to Silvia. Not only am I reliving that time by sharing it over and over with Silvia to guide and comfort her; I'm absolutely being blessed with things I can't describe just yet. I'm not enjoying watching Silvia suffer, thats not what I mean. You know what I mean.
Just touching base.
Peace
Roy
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Just touching base with those concerned.
Roy my brother. I can feel comfortable here to speak for all concerned that we feel for you and Silvia and we pray that all will turn out and that the will of God will be done in both of your lives.
Love and Peace to you both.
Mark
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We are all so very concerned Roy and thank you for sharing that positive message with us. Please know that prayers are with you and Silvia. God bless you.
Love to you both in Christ,
Vangie
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Roy, you know we're here! We will be standing with the two of you......
Kathy :-*
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Silvia has been reading all of your kind words of compassion and they are definitely having an impact.
I'm so glad I encouraged her to come here to the forum and start her testimony. Only problem is I'm gonna have to hook up my other computer now because she is liking it here and finding much comfort.
It pleases me very much.
By the way; Silvia has read every single word that Ray has written and she knows them better than me. We are always discussing his teachings, but now she has all of you too.
Something else I want to share of which I have no doubt is God in complete control of even Silvia's testimony; the way I pushed her to it, and how its taking her so long to type it, or have the strength to do it, seeing her do it, reliving it bringing it all to surface. She told me last night that her dreams have been bringing things out that she had forgotten or just subconsciously locked away. I think that God is timing her testimony so we will see her past, present, and finally her deliverance.
I have asked her several times if she is sure she wants to give this testimony, and there is nothing going to stop her now. I can see Gods hand on her. Sometimes its hard for her to see that as she is so completely exhausted most of the time from the turmoil she is in. Yes There is light at the end of this tunnel.
Also, I do have Silvia's approval to make these post about her. She is in no way ashamed of her condition. She knows what God is doing.
Great day to everyone.
Roy
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Roy, even though these things are hard for both of you..it just makes my heart so glad to hear how God is working with Silvia! It's amazing how much God can do when He brings you to the point of desperation..God brings us right where we need to be just when we need to be there!! I am so amazed!! Thank you for sharing all of this with us! :)
Kathy :-*