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=> Email to Ray => Topic started by: Craig on April 22, 2007, 11:48:51 PM
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> Hello Ray...
> I followed with some interest the intellectual chicanery
> perpetrated against you by the ill-informed student and professor
> from Florida Bible College. Their doctrinal position is both
> untenable and error to the highest degree. That they feed that
> doctrinal garbage to their students (who PAY to learn it from them!)
> is reprehensible because it insults the Spirit of Truth who is on the
> earth to lead men into ALL TRUTH.
> The doctrine of eternal damnation and eternal torment which they
> proselytize is, and will always be, heresy. They have not done their
> homework, believing that the KJV Bible is inerrant. No, in actuality,
> it is a Roman Catholic bible reflecting the Roman Catho lic doctrine
> of Jerome and Augustine. This is because of the fact that the KJV
> translators were ROMAN CATHOLIC in their doctrinal upbringing.
> Scholars hip will reveal that they translated the KJV Bible in the
> early part of The Reformation, when they had just broken away from
> the Catholic Church. That they were still Roman Catholic in their
> thinking is evident by [1] the dedication of their 1611 to Mary, and
> [2] the church that they founded, The Anglican Church, which is a
> carbon copy of Rome, complete with Mass Liturgy almost word-for-word.
> Need I say more? By the way, this is not a criticism of one's
> beliefs, but my comments are only meant to be an historical
> observation of how things evolved.
> Their students need to learn that doctrinal errors which
> infiltrated the church-at-large over the centuries CANNOT be argued
> or determined solely by reading the Bible. In fact, most of such
> errors cannot be easily recognized by reading translations in which
> these errors have been "parroted" by one group of translators after
> another for centuries. No, to recognize how these doctrinal errors
> crept into the church, one must study HISTORY. Their professor needs
> to do his homework. If he does, he will discover that the first time
> the words "eternal damnation" and "eternal torment" appear
> historically in Christiandom is in a novel by Augustine called
> "The City of God". He got it from Zoroastrianism, from which he was
> converted as a young man. He brought it into the Catholic Church.
> Interestingly, the Catholic Church resisted him at first, but
> acquiesced to his insistence on teaching the doctrine when he
> threatened to leave Catholicism. This Persian religion always taught
> a doctrine of eternal hell fire, torment, and damnation. It came f rom
> Egypt and Babylon. It was brought into the Catholic Church by
> Augustine, and I believe, Jerome. Tertullian, a so-called early
> church "father" als o promoted it. He, too, was a convert from
> Zoroastrianism. it is clear that during and after the Reformation,
> when the Protestant churches formed and broke away from the Catholic
> Church, their main interest was to distance themselves from the
> Popes, but they took the doctrines with them. Thus, these blasphemous
> doctrines which malign the character of The Father, and the character
> and work of The Son, have been continued without any critical
> thinking or scholarship applied to them to this day. The mixture of
> pagan doctrine with the things of God is the sin of syncretism,
> forbidden by Scripture. The problem is that the end-time church does
> not learn from the Scripture that it is APOSTATE, a prophetic sign of
> the e ndtimes. It teaches others that it is the repository of all
> truth and doctrine. No...scripture says it is apostate, that is, it
> has fallen away from the trut h of the Word as originally given and
> intended by the Holy Spirit. So those, like this professor and his
> student, who pretend to "know" correct doctrine when Scripture says
> that the endtime condition of the church-at-large is apostate, and
> that its teachings are apostate, do not realize that they are
> operating from the wrong position. The "church" is not the repository
> of truth. The Holy Spirit is the repository of ALL truth.
> The tone of their 1st and 2nd e-mail communications to you were
> condescending. Religious folks always seem to be mean-spirited and
> tend to resist the Holy Spirit when He is trying to lead them into
> all truth. I was "amused" at their effort to bring you under
> correction, operating from the fa lse premise that they "know" the
> truth . They may know some of the truth but it is apparent that they
> do not understand the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, whi ch you have so
> eloquently and correctly presented many times in your e-mail replies.
> Now here is a message for them: the Scripture says that "Jesus
> Christ is the Savior of ALL men, ESPECIALLY those who believe...";
> that Christ will be ALL in ALL (not all in SOME); that He wiill
> subdue ALL things under His feet; that ALL above the earth, on the
> earth, and below the earth will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord..
> WITHOUT EXCEPTION....ALL!; that God wiill make ALL things beautiful
> in His Time; that He wills ALL men to be saved; that He is the Savior
> of the WHOLE world; that God will restore ALL things...taught by ALL
> of the prophets of old (Acts 3:21). Now THAT is the Good News of The
> Gospel of Jesus Christ, and nothi ng short of that. To miss
> understanding these concepts is to miss the Gospel itself. Or what
> part of the word "all" don't they understand?
> The rel igious nonsense that God said He would restore all things
> but ended up with a "bunch" of beings He could not do anything
> with....so He must roast and toast them "forever", presents a picture
> of the God who said he would (save all men) but couldn't. A God who
> failed. A God who lost control of His universe and some of the beings
> whom He created. A God who was too impotent to do what He said He
> would do. What blasphemy! Please inform the professor and his
> students that God is not in the business of "damage control" after
> "something went wrong" early during the Creation . No God is
> Sovereign, His plan is deliberate, and executed with full knowledge
> and control over ALL that He is doing; He will do what He said He
> will do, and Jesus NEVER fails.
> I hope you will share this with others. It is high time that
> the people who visit your website realize that you are not alone in
> what you teach, and that there are MANY ministries out there who
> recognize and preach the same truths that you preach directly from
> the Word. We support you and congratulate you on taking your
> doctrinal stance against religious filth, for the "truth once given
> to the saints." Blessings in Him,
>
> Pastor Zumpano
>
> P.S.: I know you are busy, so you need not reply directly to me. I
> understand.
Thank you for your email and comments, Pastor.
God be with you,
Ray