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I remember way back when~ when it was a controversy that a baker did not want to bake a cake for a same sex wedding. Maybe it’s been 10 or 15 years since then and how far has the world gone.
It is mandatory that myself and almost every other person (in California) who has a job or who goes to a public school, take part in or in some way be involved in Pride Month. I know first hand only what I know first hand. That is that as part of my job, being in a corporate setting, is to facilitate and setup for all sorts of corporate special events including ‘pride month’ events .. man this all happened so fast. From one instance where a baker didn’t want to bake a cake everything has escalated so so quickly.. to now it’s pushed on kids in such an aggressive way. Is anyone seeing the amount of ‘drag shows’ that kids are being brought to by teachers and parents? This is what I don’t know first hand. I’m only seeing it being reported so I don’t know if the instances are few or many but it seems very common and trendy to combine drag shows and children.. I do have a preteen/teen daughter so I can say firsthand that culturally it is everywhere for teens.
It would be greater for that one to tie a millstone around his neck and be thrown into the sea than to cause a little one to stumble.
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Sorry for venting
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There is no need to apologize. We should be able to vent and lean on one another during difficult times such as these. I have a daughter in that age bracket as well and what is happening with children today is quite troubling. It is one of the main reasons I chose to homeschool my child. To answer your question, no, I haven't seen any of this drag nonsense first hand. Only what I see on the various social media sites I visit. Sorry to hear about your predicament. Must be tough being caught up in all that. I know a thing or two about it myself. We are living in some very dark times my friend. Hang in there.
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You're right that it's happened fast. According to Gallup, 70% of Americans approve of same-sex marriage. In 1996 it was 27%. And as I mentioned in an earlier thread, California (!) voted against same-sex marriage just 14 years ago. But this is good news. It must be as in the days of Lot when the Son of Man is revealed (Luke 17:26-30).
Despite those Gallup numbers, I am not convinced the country is as pro-perversion as we're led to believe. Maybe 5-7% of the country is "LGBT." So we have the 5-7 %, and their friends and family. I suspect the VAST majority of everyone else doesn't care at all about "pride," in the same way that most people wouldn't care if there was a month celebrating some other group that comprised 7% of Americans: quilters, perhaps, or trout fishermen. (Imagine calling someone a bigot for not wearing a ball of yarn on their work uniform to celebrate trout Quilting Month.) Many think homosexuality is fine, but don't need to see it shoved down our throats. Many others think it is sinful. However, most people just say they approve of it because they're scared. (That includes a large percentage of religious people; I heard a recent poll showed 40% of churchgoers approve of same-sex marriage.) The Gallup number was 55% pro same-sex marriage when Trump was elected. Has it really jumped 15% since then? Or have people noticed what's been happening to those who speak against the prevailing vision?
Seeing the behavior of some of these people is a good reminder of how amazing God's love is. He even loves the perverts.
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Watch this 4 minute Fox News video: https://youtu.be/Gx4dOxYdghQ (https://youtu.be/Gx4dOxYdghQ) This country is going down the toilet.
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1 Kings 18:27
And at noon, Elijah mocked them, saying,” cry aloud for he is a god,
either he is musing, or he is relieving himself ( on the worldly toilet)
or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened.
The Parable of the rich fool comes to mind.
Micah 6:12… Your rich men are full of violence,your inhabitants speak lies
and their tongue is deceitful in their mouths.
Isaiah 66:3,,,,they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in
their abominations, 4…. I also will choose harsh treatment for them and
bring their fears upon them.
Comment from Ray in the Hagee paper.
“Our apostle Paul warned that in the latter days there would be a great apostasy.”
I have been watching, it’s pretty bad.
Continuing with Rays comment.” Heathens are not apostates, atheists can never be guilty
of apostasy unless they once knew the truth. An apostate is one who falls from truth.
Most of what Paul cautions his own disciples to be aware of were things that were to increase
as Christs return draws nearer.
Isaiah prophecy 66: 4, I will bring their fears upon them,
What are their fears?
What is carnal man capable of?
Jeremiah 17:9 says desperately wicked .
I ask myself, just how much evil is coming? According to Ray, this beast will not leave
peacefully. This beast within us / humanity is carnal / it is death.
The teaching Repentance and guilty of all taught me that without Gods grace we too could
be these ( people who practice these sins of sexual immortality and worse)
Thank God that even though we are yet carnal , The Placer is unplacing this evil in us and eventually
the world.
Ray, quote.” Yes God is the creator of evil (Isaiah 45:7)
It is not our duty to shield God from evil , it to understand its grand purpose and temporary
existence.
The true saints can justify God in all His doings through faith. Why water down and pervert
God’s grand declarations? Pray for wisdom and understanding and then teach all of Gods word
without timidity.
I think we need to also pray for endurance to continue .
Ray “ seeing that Satan is the god of this world ( eon) !
most of Satans works involve mankind. All of these acts are going to be annulled.
2 Cor.5:18-19… All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us
to Himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation.
Every day is a day closer to flushing that toilet Dennis.
This is a good time I think to read again The Towers Paper.
What did Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel know of our day?
All Glory to God our Father and to Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
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Pride goeth before the fall, their fall.
Summer, Fall, and Winter... epic times.
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What is carnal man capable of?
Jeremiah 17:9 says desperately wicked .
I ask myself, just how much evil is coming? According to Ray, this beast will not leave
peacefully. This beast within us / humanity is carnal / it is death.
The teaching Repentance and guilty of all taught me that without Gods grace we too could
be these ( people who practice these sins of sexual immortality and worse)
This is something I never have to ponder because I was once one of them. I wasn't a drag queen, but I was sexually immoral and then some. I have no doubt, had God not pulled me out of that life, my "immoral practices" would have gotten much worse. So I know exactly what carnal man is capable of and it has humbled me to the extent that if I ever begin to look down upon those people, I am quickly reminded of what God saved me from.
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Hi Ralph,
It's one thing to be literally sexually immoral, but to be spiritually sexually immoral is even worse. It's like cheating on Jesus with that Great Whore of Babylon. That's one dirty bed you don't wanna get caught in ;)
First the physical, then the spiritual. Parables, parables, parables and “my words are spirit” never changes.
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Hi Ralph,
It's one thing to be literally sexually immoral, but to be spiritually sexually immoral is even worse. It's like cheating on Jesus with that Great Whore of Babylon. That's one dirty bed you don't wanna get caught in ;)
First the physical, then the spiritual. Parables, parables, parables and “my words are spirit” never changes.
Hey Porter,
That is quite true my friend although I don't know that I have a great deal of experience with the spiritual side of this equation as I was only in Babylon for a very short time. I was forced into Catholicism as a child, but quickly left that church during my teenage years because of how disturbed the Catholic church made me feel, only to visit the Christian church for a very short period in my early 30s. Even then, I wasn't going to a physical church but instead was listening to a Christian radio station and occasionally watching TBN. When I found Ray's site, leaving that behind was very easy for me. None of the major false teachings of Christendom ever took root, especially the Hell doctrine. I found it much more difficult to part ways with the physical. Astronomically more difficult. Now if Babylon exists outside the church system, in places like New Age and certain branches of science, that is a different story as I was certainly in bed with them.
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I remember the baker story, felt like it was a decade ago, but then I looked it up, it happened in 2018, only 4 years ago, not really that long.
It happened so fast, all thanks to the major international law firm and the old media giant.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists
It's a boiling frog syndrome, gays and trans are not their ultimate goal.
1) tolerance for gays - showing they're just like everyone else, so that many think homosexuality is fine
2) legalization of same-sex marriage
3) adoption of children by gay people
4) then came the transgender agenda
a) advance trans rights
b) remove parental consent, prevent parents having the final say about significant changes in the status of their own children
5) grooming children in the public schools/libraries by pro-LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ teachers and drag queens
6) their ultimate goal: acceptance and legalization of pedophilia is next
That's why they won't leave the kids out of it, they have to recruit vulnerable children, because if they don't, they can't spead the perversion fast enough and there will be less degeneracy.
Joh 5:19 We are certain that we are of God, but all the world is in the power of the Evil One.
The evil one's main target is always the children.
Eze 16:20 Then you took your sons and daughters—the children you had borne to me—and sacrificed them to your gods. Was your prostitution not enough?
Eze 16:21 Must you also slaughter my children by sacrificing them to idols?
Mat 18:6 But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.
I surely hope these are the signs that the day of the Lord is near. But there's nothing new under the sun, are things worse today than in the 20s - 30s in Berlin, Germany?
https://twitter.com/AncestralVril/status/1530653106865946624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWqnnUeD6cw&t=1s
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The plus-sign stands for pedophilia, since most people aren't ready (yet) to accept the P as part of the alphabet soup.
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I remember the baker story, felt like it was a decade ago, but then I looked it up, it happened in 2018, only 4 years ago, not really that long.
It happened so fast, all thanks to the major international law firm and the old media giant.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists
It's a boiling frog syndrome, gays and trans are not their ultimate goal.
1) tolerance for gays - showing they're just like everyone else, so that many think homosexuality is fine
2) legalization of same-sex marriage
3) adoption of children by gay people
4) then came the transgender agenda
a) advance trans rights
b) remove parental consent, prevent parents having the final say about significant changes in the status of their own children
5) grooming children in the public schools/libraries by pro-LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ teachers and drag queens
6) their ultimate goal: acceptance and legalization of pedophilia is next
That's why they won't leave the kids out of it, they have to recruit vulnerable children, because if they don't, they can't spead the perversion fast enough and there will be less degeneracy.
Joh 5:19 We are certain that we are of God, but all the world is in the power of the Evil One.
The evil one's main target is always the children.
Eze 16:20 Then you took your sons and daughters—the children you had borne to me—and sacrificed them to your gods. Was your prostitution not enough?
Eze 16:21 Must you also slaughter my children by sacrificing them to idols?
Mat 18:6 But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.
I surely hope these are the signs that the day of the Lord is near. But there's nothing new under the sun, are things worse today than in the 20s - 30s in Berlin, Germany?
https://twitter.com/AncestralVril/status/1530653106865946624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWqnnUeD6cw&t=1s
I cannot even imagine making pedophilia legal although I wouldn’t be surprised. There was this movie on Netflix called Cuties which if I’m not mistaken, heavily sexualized children. I didn’t watch it so I don’t know for sure but that’s what I remember from the internet. In Japanese entertainment there’s a character archetype which is called “Loli” which is a woman or high school student that looks like their in middle or even elementary. With the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I believe that all those things in entertainment are there as a form of subversion. They want the population to believe that there’s nothing evil about it and that “love is love and age is nothing but a number”. They especially attack kids because they are more susceptible to new ideas.
With most students coming from a 2 working parent household, the children are basically raised by the satanic worldly system in which they are indoctrinated and by the time the parents find out, it’s too late and the seed has taken root and the world waters it by statements like “they are stuck in their old ways, their bigots, they don’t know as much as we do and we are more enlightened”. Then it continues to the next generation and it becomes increasingly more wicked. The church also fornicates with the kings of this world and becomes a harlot also and instead of feeding the flock the meat of Christ, they make men drink the milk of Satan. It used be in the church that wanting to raise children was an admirable act, nowadays if a woman says that she wants to do that she is shamed and “lazy for not wanting to provide for her children”. A man was expected to be strong and lead his household, nowadays if a male teen doesn’t wear dresses then “he is not secure in his masculinity and that’s toxic”.
Don’t be surprised if you start to see the movement for relationships between teens and grown adults and eventually children. There’s this culture of “live your best life, just don’t harm yourself or others”. Not realizing that they are not only harming themselves but also others with their depraved behavior. All that being said we are no better than them. If it wasn’t for God through Christ rescuing us to His Marvelous Light, we are selves would be indulging in the filth in the darkness and despising The Light. I pray that the Lord returns soon because I’m only 21 and I can’t imagine bearing with this wickedness for the next decades, especially since it seems I have my whole life ahead of me and things get worse by the day. However, I have confidence that our Lord is close and even if we sleep before He returns, we will be able to overcome and endure if it is His Will and Intention.
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The plus-sign stands for pedophilia, since most people aren't ready (yet) to accept the P as part of the alphabet soup.
This sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theory CRAP. Some people just love to instill fear in others to advance some point they are trying to push. STOP IT.
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The plus-sign stands for pedophilia, since most people aren't ready (yet) to accept the P as part of the alphabet soup.
This sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theory CRAP. Some people just love to instill fear in others to advance some point they are trying to push. STOP IT.
That's just what they want you to believe, Rene, and it's why they have made such remarkable progress in a short time.
Zvezda is spot on with the list he posted:
1) tolerance for gays - showing they're just like everyone else, so that many think homosexuality is fine
2) legalization of same-sex marriage
3) adoption of children by gay people
4) then came the transgender agenda
a) advance trans rights
b) remove parental consent, prevent parents having the final say about significant changes in the status of their own children
5) grooming children in the public schools/libraries by pro-LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ teachers and drag queens
6) their ultimate goal: acceptance and legalization of pedophilia is next
It has gone from "just leave us alone and don't persecute us" to "you're a transphobic bigot if you don't wear a pride patch to work" in my lifetime..and I'm not yet 40 years old. In the 1990s, when 75% of America was against homosexuality, did you call same-sex marriage conspiracy theory crap?
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Rene is right - I looked it up:
LGBTQ+ | An acronym for “lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer” with a "+" sign to recognize the limitless sexual orientations and gender identities used by members of our community.
But they are after the children. Many videos with drag queens and children on YouTube.
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I know there is a lot of "darkness" in this world and things are getting worse. However, this thread sounds HATEFUL and full of FEAR. In addition, some of you sound just like a lot of those Fundamentalist Christians out there. It is a mean and self-righteous spirit.
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However, this thread sounds HATEFUL and full of FEAR. In addition, some of you sound just like a lot of those Fundamentalist Christians out there. It is a mean and self-righteous spirit.
I repeat my last post: that is exactly what they want us to believe. It has gotten so bad because they convinced us that saying "homosexuality is a sin" is hateful.
I reread this whole thread, and did not find anyone say "I hate homosexuals" or "I'm better than homosexuals" or "I'm afraid of homosexuals." I did see comments like "God's love is amazing" and "All glory to God our Father" and "I was sexually immoral and then some." Where is the hate and fear and self-righteousness you're talking about? Is Ray's paper You Fools! mean and self-righteous too?
Romans 1
24 Wherefore God gives them over, in the lusts of their hearts, to the uncleanness of dishonoring their bodies among themselves,
25 those who alter the truth of God into the lie, and are venerated, and offer divine service to the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed for the eons! Amen!"
26 Therefore God gives them over to dishonorable passions. For their females, besides, alter the natural use into that which is beside nature."
27 Likewise also the males, besides, leaving the natural use of the female, were inflamed in their craving for one another, males with males effecting indecency, and getting back in themselves the retribution of their deception which must be.
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I know there is a lot of "darkness" in this world and things are getting worse. However, this thread sounds HATEFUL and full of FEAR. In addition, some of you sound just like a lot of those Fundamentalist Christians out there. It is a mean and self-righteous spirit.
I don't see it that way:
Luk_21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:3 (CLV) For the era will be when they will not tolerate sound teaching, but, their hearing being tickled, they will heap up for themselves teachers in accord with their own desires,
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
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I looked it up:
LGBTQ+ | An acronym for “lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer” with a "+" sign to recognize the limitless sexual orientations and gender identities used by members of our community.
If you look it up, of course you will find that the plus sign stands for a list of whatnot and pedo is not on the list. That's what they told you and want you to believe. This is their initial step for acceptance of pedo. I wouldn't be surprised if someday they add pedo to the list. Like I said, it's a boiling frog.
But they are after the children. Many videos with drag queens and children on YouTube.
Also do a search for "drag kids"
Where is the hate and fear and self-righteousness
I was also scratching my head where is the hate and fear and self-righteousness, if anything, we are just venting about this pride month thing. But I will let God be the judge.
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I know there is a lot of "darkness" in this world and things are getting worse. However, this thread sounds HATEFUL and full of FEAR. In addition, some of you sound just like a lot of those Fundamentalist Christians out there. It is a mean and self-righteous spirit.
I haven’t heard anything about the meaning of the “+” sign, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were true. What I have learned over the past 10 years or so, is that many of the things people consider “conspiracy theories” or “fear mongering”, are actual fact. Not all of course, but many. I’ve gone down some rabbit holes and have seen things that would probably put most people in the hospital. People can choose to turn a blind eye or scoff at those who reveal these things , but what might be revealed about the true nature of carnal man in the coming months and years is going to shock most people to the core. I am not hateful, mean, self righteous or full of fear Rene. Believe me, I don't want to know what I know, but I kind of had no choice. During the process of raising a young child in one of the most liberal states in America, some of this stuff kind of fell on my lap. And I don't condemn these people to hell like most Christians do. I pray for God to have mercy on them as he had mercy on me. I know full well if it weren't for Christ, I could have very easily become one of them.
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Well said Ralph.
Believe me , if you want to see these things , come to Canada.
Everything on that list and more than you could stomach is legal here.
Suicide is rampant from overdoses and now the government has decriminalized
the most dangerous of drugs and given the user a safe place to shoot up.
And also their own little sheds where they are taught by ex users how to use
safely while they are given food.
They just made a law that if you harm or even kill someone while high on drugs
or alcohol, you can use it as a defence.
Every sin you can imagine is already legal and they are legalizing more and more at a rapid
pace . The elementary schools have signs on them saying Happy Pride Day and the children
are encouraged to participate. Yes , there are drag queen story telling in our libraries,
drag shows for families, but I am also witnessing more people wondering why all these things
are happening. It’s all the same sin , crime and corruption as Ray stated, but we were warned
that lawlessness would increase.
In Two Judgements by Fire , Ray said that Babylon is rising once more. Is this what this is?
I D K but I would like to see us not be divided. God deals with us differently, but we have to
put it all together, TOGETHER.
Num.: 13:30… but Caleb quoted the people before Moses and said , “ let us go up at once and occupy it
for we are well able to overcome it.
Num.13: 32… The land for which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants,
and all the people that we saw in it are of great height.
Is this scripture talking about height as in Haughty, high minded, self centred, do as I please in my own eyes, freedom fighting loves of themselves, my body my choice towering above their heavens
of their own minds lust of the eyes lust of the flesh pride of life carnal minded people?
Humanity is special to God. But it is a beast, a freedom loving , godless, deep seated hatred( enemies
of God) and God will tame that beast in His own time on His own schedule. But we have to abhor
evil and endure. We cannot spiritualize away what we are witnessing, Ray warned just like
Noah warned. All evil is framed but honestly guys , I put my head down in shame and cry to our Lord
repenting for what we are and what we are capable of as Gods children . Humans are monsters
and ONLY BY THE SAVING GRACE OF OUR GOD DO WE DO ANYTHING GOOD .
Thank God our Father for His mercy and love and for what He sees at the end of all this horror
and is giving us a glimpse of His amazing plan. I have to admit that it is disturbing but also
It is justified, because all is of God.
Psalm 11:7… For the Lord is righteous, He loves righteous deeds. The upright will behold His face.
hang in there.
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I guess my comment would be: as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in days of the coming of the Son of man.
Are we there yet?
I feel/see a crescendo building in world events on a pace that is breathtaking. Maybe the Father is answering all of our prayers to bring The Kingdom of God soon….very soon.
I am reminded of either a video or paper (can’t remember which) where Ray said (paraphrasing here) Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven, should be understood that our prayer should be that we are in alignment with what MUST NEEDS BE DONE for God’s will be fulfilled. As much as I hate to see the depravity and evil in the world, I know it must be done so that eventually all mankind will understand what we ALL are….beasts.
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When I ponder all these things I think that these days we're prepared for us before the foundation of the earth. Nothing that happens isn't supposed to happen and if there was a better way for God to accomplish his plan for humanity he would do it that way. Not easy times to walk through but it's necessary.
For me the last several years things are a lot more local. I can't change much but I do have a say what happens on my street and my home. That and I hope everyone is preparing the best they can for severe hard times. Reread Ray's Tower papers and consider when he wrote that right after 911 and consider everything that has happened since then.
The light at the end of the tunnel is a train.....but it's all good!!
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I know full well if it weren't for Christ, I could have very easily become one of them.
Amen and absolutely!
Romans: 9:21-23 - "Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory—"
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Dynamo54,
You see it, I see it, and the Church sees it too. Yet, Christ tells us the Kingdom of God does not come by something observable (Luk 17:20). The Kingdom of God is at hand now, and it's among you and within you (Luk 17:21). It is telling us to let Jesus be the Lord and King of our hearts.
The literal days of Noah and Lot were a shadow of BETTER, not BADDER things to come. Both Noah and Lot were distressed by the sins of the people in the earth. God rescued and delivered them, not from the sinful people, but from the sins that ruled the people.
In the same way as Noah and Lot, God baptizes us in water until the sinful lawless man dies and is and buried in Christ. This is the first death. The second death comes after we are resurrected in Christ, represented by the Ark, which represents our judgment. Judgment through correction teaches us how to walk in the footsteps of Jesus till we stop sinning completely.
We will find the land Noah was looking for and found, the Zoar of Lot's heart. The same land promised to Abraham and his seed.
Isa 54:6 For the LORD has called you, like a wife deserted and wounded in spirit [Mat_5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.], a wife of one's youth when she is rejected," says your God.
Isa 54:7 "I deserted you for a brief moment, but I will take you back with great compassion.
Isa 54:8 In a surge of anger I hid My face from you for a moment, but I will have compassion on you with everlasting love," says the LORD your Redeemer.
Isa 54:9 "For this is like the days of Noah to Me: when I swore that the waters of Noah would never flood the earth again, so I have sworn that I will not be angry with you or rebuke you.
Isa 54:10 Though the mountains move and the hills shake, My love will not be removed from you and My covenant of peace will not be shaken," says your compassionate LORD.
I see how “sin begets sin” too. However, I can't help but to see the underlying message of “the Lord must be coming soon” because certain sins are increasing. I'm not so sure if that is what Jesus meant concerning the days of Noah and Lot, especially if Jesus only taught in parables.
Like Lot, can you see the Son rising in your heart after escaping the filth in the world? It looks like a rainbow, so you can't miss it. Keep “watching”, keep seeking, keep knocking, and you'll find it Dynamo.
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Porter,
Yes, the Kingdom of God is here, at hand, for a very select few. But I was really referring to Christ RETURNING with His Kingdom (world ruling government with as much iron as is needed for each person) to END this tragedy of mankind trying to direct their steps, usually in opposition to God’s will (but not His intention as Ray points out).
Ray points out the scripture plainly states Christ is preparing His Kingdom (government) and will return when he has completed preparing the saints. May it be soon.
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I knew exactly what you meant, Dynamo. I guess I just wanted you to know that I believe Jesus is here now preparing His Kingdom in you and me. When Jesus appears to the world, we will be at His side. Like a bride and groom on their wedding day celebrating their unity.
Apologies, if it seemed like I was trying to correct you or something like that. I was just very eager to share the excitement I felt when talking about this stuff. I, too, can't wait for that day.
Peace.
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:)
It is all good Porter!
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I to can't wait for that day it can't come soon enough praise God for all he's done for us .I love reading all the stuff everyone posts so much info very encouraging.
God bless
Wendy
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They are killing children
Transgender kids OK for hormones at 14, surgery at 15 https://youtu.be/hCh7ZRi4fVU (https://youtu.be/hCh7ZRi4fVU)
Transgender Adolescent Suicide Behavior:
"Nearly 14% of adolescents reported a previous suicide attempt; disparities by gender identity in suicide attempts were found. Female to male adolescents reported the highest rate of attempted suicide (50.8%), followed by adolescents who identified as not exclusively male or female (41.8%), male to female adolescents (29.9%), questioning adolescents (27.9%), female adolescents (17.6%), and male adolescents (9.8%). Identifying as nonheterosexual exacerbated the risk for all adolescents except for those who did not exclusively identify as male or female (ie, nonbinary). For transgender adolescents, no other sociodemographic characteristic was associated with suicide attempts."
"Other studies revealed that 28% to 52% of transgender people have attempted suicide"
"community-based studies have revealed that female to different gender and female to male adolescents report higher rates of suicide ideation (ie, 73.9% and 62.5%, respectively) and previous suicide attempts (46.4% and 18.4%, respectively)"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6317573/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6317573/)
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Myanmar Military are torturing children .
Isaiah 13:11, I will punish the world for its evil.
Come Lord Jesus, they will be done.
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Well said Ralph.
Believe me , if you want to see these things , come to Canada.
Everything on that list and more than you could stomach is legal here.
Suicide is rampant from overdoses and now the government has decriminalized
the most dangerous of drugs and given the user a safe place to shoot up.
And also their own little sheds where they are taught by ex users how to use
safely while they are given food.
They just made a law that if you harm or even kill someone while high on drugs
or alcohol, you can use it as a defence.
Every sin you can imagine is already legal and they are legalizing more and more at a rapid
pace . The elementary schools have signs on them saying Happy Pride Day and the children
are encouraged to participate. Yes , there are drag queen story telling in our libraries,
drag shows for families, but I am also witnessing more people wondering why all these things
are happening. It’s all the same sin , crime and corruption as Ray stated, but we were warned
that lawlessness would increase.
In Two Judgements by Fire , Ray said that Babylon is rising once more. Is this what this is?
I D K but I would like to see us not be divided. God deals with us differently, but we have to
put it all together, TOGETHER.
Num.: 13:30… but Caleb quoted the people before Moses and said , “ let us go up at once and occupy it
for we are well able to overcome it.
Num.13: 32… The land for which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants,
and all the people that we saw in it are of great height.
Is this scripture talking about height as in Haughty, high minded, self centred, do as I please in my own eyes, freedom fighting loves of themselves, my body my choice towering above their heavens
of their own minds lust of the eyes lust of the flesh pride of life carnal minded people?
Humanity is special to God. But it is a beast, a freedom loving , godless, deep seated hatred( enemies
of God) and God will tame that beast in His own time on His own schedule. But we have to abhor
evil and endure. We cannot spiritualize away what we are witnessing, Ray warned just like
Noah warned. All evil is framed but honestly guys , I put my head down in shame and cry to our Lord
repenting for what we are and what we are capable of as Gods children . Humans are monsters
and ONLY BY THE SAVING GRACE OF OUR GOD DO WE DO ANYTHING GOOD .
Thank God our Father for His mercy and love and for what He sees at the end of all this horror
and is giving us a glimpse of His amazing plan. I have to admit that it is disturbing but also
It is justified, because all is of God.
Psalm 11:7… For the Lord is righteous, He loves righteous deeds. The upright will behold His face.
hang in there.
Thanks my friend. Hello to my northern neighbor! I'm in New York. I have been following Canada. You folks have your hands full up there. I pray the Lord keeps you and your loved ones safe and blessed.
I'm with you about doing this together. For me this forum is a huge blessing. An oasis in the desert.
"Is this scripture talking about height as in Haughty, high minded, self centred, do as I please in my own eyes, freedom fighting loves of themselves, my body my choice towering above their heavens
of their own minds lust of the eyes lust of the flesh pride of life carnal minded people?"
While I do feel I am a bit further along than those in the world, I know there is still a great deal that needs to be cleaned up, so I always look inwardly first to see how these scriptures apply to myself before I apply them to any particular person or group of people. I think it’s good to discuss and point out the evil in this world. I believe it’s even better to discover and confess the evil within ourselves.
When I reread that part of numbers just now, as it happens very often, I was able to glean something from it and apply it to myself.
There is this land with fruit, flowing with milk and honey, but there are also giants there as well. I think about what God has given me the ability to overcome and the spiritual fruit I now sometimes produce, but I also see certain sins that I still have to overcome, big giants in my land and I am but a grasshopper in comparison. There is no way I am overcoming those giants without Christ.
Num 13:27
Then they told him, and said: “We went to the land where you sent us. It truly flows with milk and honey, and this is its fruit.
Num 13:28
“Nevertheless the people who dwell in the land are strong; the cities are fortified and very large; moreover we saw the descendants of Anak there.
Then we have this. Again, I can relate to this. When my trials seem to become more than I can bear, I will complain and during times of great weakness and fear, I will ask God to have mercy and take me.
Num 14:1
So all the congregation lifted up their voices and cried, and the people wept that night.
Num 14:2
And all the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron, and the whole congregation said to them, “If only we had died in the land of Egypt! Or if only we had died in this wilderness!
Num 14:3
“Why has the LORD brought us to this land to fall by the sword, that our wives and children should become victims? Would it not be better for us to return to Egypt?”
I could be wrong with my understanding of these scriptures and welcome any correction and/or contribution, but that is how I study.
“Humanity is special to God. But it is a beast, a freedom loving , godless, deep seated hatred( enemies
of God) and God will tame that beast in His own time on His own schedule. But we have to abhor
evil and endure. We cannot spiritualize away what we are witnessing, Ray warned just like
Noah warned. All evil is framed but honestly guys , I put my head down in shame and cry to our Lord
repenting for what we are and what we are capable of as Gods children . Humans are monsters
and ONLY BY THE SAVING GRACE OF OUR GOD DO WE DO ANYTHING GOOD .
Thank God our Father for His mercy and love and for what He sees at the end of all this horror
and is giving us a glimpse of His amazing plan. I have to admit that it is disturbing but also
It is justified, because all is of God.”
Amen! Some great words of wisdom right there!
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Michigan Democrat Attorney General Dana Nessel Calls For "A Drag Queen For Every School" https://youtu.be/KYeCyqqtfik (https://youtu.be/KYeCyqqtfik)
This country is turning into, if not already, Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Hi Ralph
Well you are not far from Nova Scotia at all. Actually I think Canada and the US
is like Dr. Evil and Mini Me. 😂
Ray had said the Bible is one giant parable. I agree with that and I believe the scriptures
are multilayered. But throughout all the Bible there is one constant, the many and the few.
Numbers 13 :32… I believe this scripture is multilayered. Yes we must always see our own
Babylon and how God is destroying it, but I also know He is coming to destroy The worldly
Babylon, so my take on the word height is referencing FREE WILL.
Towers, high mindedness, arrogance, self- determination, of the beast within
all humanity. We have giant heads that live in the heavens of our own minds / hearts of unbelief
and we have to be brought low in humility by an experience of evil. We know that the natural
carnal mind of man cannot obey God right, neither is able. God has showed me through this
experience of evil what I am . I was driven to the edge so to speak. Anyway it shook me to the core.
I spend hours everyday studying the scriptures but God always leads me back to The Myth of Free
Will in the LOF. and I always learn something new in it. I see it as a false wisdom, a worldly wisdom,of stupidity,,,,,not
the true wisdom of our Lord. ( 1 John 2:15-17)
I am very thankful for God bringing me to BT, what an amazing journey this is, however
painful, suffering is necessary for everyone in this world, yes it is. But it brings about
peace, not in this world of a hog pen but in the next. So we wait.
You know, when God volunteered 😬 me to read the Bible, I read it backwards. Now I know there has to be a reason for that. God knows, I don’t. Remember the tv show Father Knows Best?
Ah yes , life is a parable. God will see us all through to the endless circle ⭕️ of life’
I believe We are in transition from the physical to the spiritual’ I Praise God in thankfulness ,
all in the name of Jesus for this experience. God Bless You All’
In Christ. Pamela
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They want us to feel pride for what is shameful. That’s what this is. Loving those in a world that is so so Lost is bewildering. Speaking the Truth in Love is what we have to do, but that requires that we Speak Truth and not be afraid of it. If we/ I deny Christ we are denying what He has taught us. It seems to me we can’t be His and not speak out. Some will be called to just love their neighbor, some to teach their neighbor, some to speak out in a public way and some in a private way. I’m still figuring this out in my own life. My husband teaches college courses, and he does not compromise what is True . He says thinks like, “ have you considered this…..” and tries to make people think.
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Loving those in a world that is so so Lost is bewildering.
Is it really THAT bewildering, though? Let's clear it up then.
Why does Jesus come to save that which is lost? Because, the lost that Jesus came to save, know they are lost. It's like the parable of the two sons.
Mat 21:28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
Mat 21:29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
Mat 21:30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
Mat 21:31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
Mat 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
The many called do not repent because they do not know they are lost. A few do know they are lost, and they do repent. That is why Jesus easily loves and saves them first. They that be whole need not a physician, and not everyone is lost.
You want to speak out against the sinners of the world, go for it, you do you. Maybe you've been called to teach like your husband or even Ray. However, they both studied and trained extensively to be qualified to teach, so they wouldn't cause some little one to stumble. Hence, why perhaps not everyone should be a teacher.
I've learned many good things here at bible truths from Ray and the members of the forum. I think it's good to share with each other what we've learned, and also to share each other's burdens. If something in the world is getting you down, or tribulation is affecting your faith, what better place than this forum to express that? We just need to remind each other what we have learned, to comfort and strengthen one another.
You know, guys and gals, if we repent now, we will have a chance at saving the godless world later. They will know God like we are getting to know God.
I wonder if Jesus is as excited at saving us as I am at helping Him save the world. People say it's getting dark out there, so be it, but hot dog if this isn't the most incredible time to be alive! It's like seeing Jesus in the flesh, like the Apostles did, but better! Those that have not seen truly are blessed!
Please don't take this personal octoberose, I saw your comment about the lost and couldn't help but to share how I see the lost from Jesus' perspective. I hope you see it too.
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Well, it feels a little personal.
The world now feels like a dark oppressive hole. I get what you’re saying- what a time to be alive - I’ve thought that. But, I have grandchildren and this is a sad scary world to leave them with. Some will have faith, and some not. It makes me sad.
I don’t want to speak Against the sinners of the world- I don’t feel much difference between me and them. I feel like God gave me an insight into His work and plan, and a desire to please Him and not live apart from Him. The difference is I don’t reveal in the sin.
I’m not Ray, and I owe him a lot, but I actually don’t agree with everything he taught but that’s ok. His life ended and we’re still here trying to find a way to understand. If he was alive God would probably further enlighten him. I’m not starting a website or working for a political campaign. But I might look into a crisis pregnancy center. I might let people know I have room at my house for a girl who needs a home while she’s pregnant. My husband and I starting talking about that given the Roe ruling.
My thought when I wrote what I did was Jesus saying in Matthew 10, everyone who confesses Me before men, I will confess him Before My Father in heaven. What I was wrestling with is how to confess Him before men in these times. If you think that’s not necessary I don’t think I’m in that same place. If you have more to say about that I don’t mind listening.
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What I was wrestling with is how to confess Him before men in these times.
1Pe 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
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What I was wrestling with is how to confess Him before men in these times.
The law came by/through Moses. Grace came by/through Jesus Christ. I reckon "confessing Him" involves honoring and obeying what He said. Following Him in His teaching and example. Leave the rest to the lawyers and judges. Their job is to confess Moses.
For the record, grace itself came with Jesus, not some theological concept called "grace".
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Well, it feels a little personal.
When I wrote that response to you, I was thinking about the parables of Jesus being quoted (in this thread), that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic. I, personally, do not mind if you or anyone wants to vent because they are afraid of their children being negatively affected by the world. However, the Spirit warns not to follow those claiming Christ is here or there, otherwise, one of us “little ones” might stumble and sin.
As for myself, I hate the thought of my children experiencing evil, and I often wish there was some other way. Nevertheless, I know it's the best way. That doesn't mean I don't try to protect them from getting hurt. What can I do for them spiritually? That's a sincere question.