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 on: January 18, 2022, 07:28:06 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Wendy
Glad hell be getting the help he needs prayers for you Dennis and Brain  🙏🙏 God bless you both 😇

 on: January 17, 2022, 07:46:16 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by ralph
Glad you were able to get an appointment.   Yes of course.  Praying brother. 

 on: January 17, 2022, 07:31:52 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Dennis Vogel
FYI: I managed to get Brian an appointment next Monday. But he is very sick. Please continue to pray for him.

 on: January 17, 2022, 10:57:01 AM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Brian is still very sick. He has trouble breathing and is cold all the time. He's pretty much all alone in Payson.

He had an appointment last week with a heart doctor in Payson and as was on his way when they called and postponed his appointment until some time in March!

He ran out of his heart medicine some of which was high doses of potassium and magnesium oxide but he has managed with over-the-counter supplements. He figured the doctor would have given him something better at the appointment.

I panicked Wednesday night and ordered the supplements from the local Walmart Thursday but it takes them three days to deliver something unlike here in Mobile where you can get a delivery the same day.

But Walmart also lets you pickup items within hours but Brian was way too sick to drive. So I started calling anything that looked like a social service in Payson and got no-where (that type of service was not available at Uber). So I decided to call churches. The first guy I talked to at a church just hung-up on me mid-sentence. The next guy at the next church, a deacon named John got in his car and went to Walmart and picked-up the potassium and magnesium oxide which was waiting for him and delivered it to Brian. Brian said it's helped a tiny bit.

Brian's convinced all the MD's and specialist have long wait times because of COVID. He will not go to the hospital for a number of reasons one of which is hospitals get large amounts of money when a COVID patient dies.

I'm going to start calling heart specialist in Arizona a little later today when they open and then see if John can find someone at his church that will drive Brian to most likely Phoenix and wait then take him home.

 on: January 16, 2022, 07:43:31 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by ralph
Oh my, what a horrible situation your son is in Dennis. Man that's hard.  Praying with all my heart bro.   

 on: January 13, 2022, 10:30:06 PM 
Started by ZekeSr - Last post by lareli
I have a friend in England that noticed the same thing. I suspect it has to do with covid and the frustration resulting from the lock-downs, job lose, etc.

No politics please.

How certain events can trigger consequences and issues in a way that no one could have predicted.


The writing has been on the wall and people have been predicting/warning about all this for over a decade.

Hi Lareli,

What I find fascinating about all this is not the trend itself toward a certain general attitude or world circumstance, but the means by which it all comes about. I’ve been consciously observing these events since the early seventies. The best way I can describe it is that it’s like a staircase where we’re headed for the bottom one step at a time. There’s a pause at each step and sometimes we even take a step or two back up. But the general trend is downward, and you never know what’s going to cause that next step down. Who knows? Maybe someday we will stumble and take a fall straight to the bottom.


Step by step down the stairs or degree by degree in the boiling water.

There’s nothing new under the sun.

There’s a reason for the saying “those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it” and also “we learn from history that we do not learn from history”

 on: January 13, 2022, 04:22:10 PM 
Started by Joel - Last post by Porter
Thoughts and prayers for you, Joel.

 on: January 13, 2022, 11:37:16 AM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by AwesomeSavior

Thanks for sharing. Praying Brian gets the help he needs for him and his daughter in AZ!


 on: January 12, 2022, 09:54:56 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by indianabob
We are with you Dennis.
It is good to share our needs.

 on: January 12, 2022, 06:11:49 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Musterseed
I will pray for Brian Dennis. So sad when our children suffer.

May God Be With You

In Christ , Pamela

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