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=> Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings => Topic started by: Deborah-Leigh on May 24, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
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Dear Mods and Forum Members
I have this small window of time to communicate to you all.
Last week on Thursday night, thieves came and cut and stole from the area in which we live, the telephone wires that connect the phone lines and internet connections. I am aware that in the USA or other first world countries, that this problem would be corrected with immediate effect. This is not the case here in South Africa.
For example, a five star venue in our area here in Magaliesburg recently won an International Award with a variety of European countries competing for the best venue for the year. This venue several months ago also experienced having their telecommunication lines stolen. The thieves have moved closer to the town centre and it was only a matter of time before we could also expect to be targeted.
The International and prestigious five star venue that I am talking about, was forced to install a satellite independent connection to keep their business in operation. There exists a huge gap between the vast telecommunications field in which there is a monopoly and the variety of massively more expensive ways to have communications via outside services. The cost and length of time to do this as a non-corporate and much smaller business entity, has not yet been determined though my husband and I are looking for options. Telecommunication Services in this Country are not likely to approve reinstallation of cables after they have been stolen and simply refer us to more costly methods of correcting our plight. They have no competition and they too are in no position to either curb or prevent the thefts. This is the reality.
You might be shaking your head from side to side by now wondering how on earth this can happen. Anti Trust laws that you have in the USA do not exist here in South Africa. The Telecommunication Services in this country still make billions of Rands profits while communication cables are being stolen and the copper wire sneaked over the boarders into neighbouring states that have established underground racketeers who purchase the metals stolen out of the telephone cables. The authorities know that this is happening. Some areas within five kilometres of us have been disconnected for more than one year and further a field others have never had telephone networks installed and are still waiting!
I have had to travel some two hundred kilometres in order to obtain this opportunity to link up and send this message to you. If I have to explain the circumstances surrounding why this has been so difficult and why for me, this message is such a blessing to send to you, well, that might take another book to explain.
The phone being cut off is only the tip of this iceberg. I asked our Lord what He was doing. He is in CHARGE. of EVERYTHING.! I was inspired with the thought that it was time that I began to focus on my immediate present more personal situation and bring into real life terms the wisdom of all that I have been fed, nurtured on and taught here in BT and that my circumstances are in fact all part of the Plan of my Lord for my life.
I believe that those who the Lord encourages to pray intercession for others, are those who He is training to understand by direct experience, that all good comes from His Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding and Love for us. I ask for your prayers.
I know that I have deliberately not disclosed my personal details to any of you. I have been in escalating trials and tribulations for eight years and since joining this Forum some two years ago I found a source of reprieve with great reinforcement and blessing. I have come to believe that no matter what cross we carry, no matter how deeply it hurts us, it is the same pain just with a different complexion. The intensity varies and the endurance also varies according to the plan of God.
I can say with absolute certainty, that if ever this story that I have seen unfold before my eyes, were to be captured in clear concise English as clearly and as concisely as it has happened in front of my husband and I, then it would make a block buster Movie. The bible has a description of the kind of corruption we have seen right before our eyes. The worst of human nature for me, can be summed up by what the Bible calls turning bitter to sweet and sweet to bitter. For me that describes the deepest most evil level of evil possible to Satan or any other deaf blind and depraved reprobate mind imaginable.
Our guidance has been without any doubt provided from our Lord and Saviour. What my husband and I and family have been suffering has not been for this worlds publication. I have great confidence that every word, thought, motive, sordid plan, greed, lust and envy will be exposed before the Great Judge at the White Throne Judgment. Before this happens I pray the through the goodness of God that many shall repent and turn to Him to erase this coming to pass. I shudder at what our enemies are going to experience. I absolutely shudder to my core for them. I really do. I am experiencing discipline and this is not wrath from God but His Power and Love that I acknowledge can lead me through death into glorious life with Christ who stands triumphant in victory. I am still sane and I believe this is why I have been caused to not seek refuge in human sympathy and have been held back because the story I have witnessed shall be announced from the Government that is not of this world. It is being reserved for the White Throne Judgement. I am not being melodramatic when I express this. I do measure my words and to say anything less would be to diminish or trivialise the vast scope and at times overwhelming evil and corruption that has been made very gradually but most plainly visible in parallel momentum to Gods protection upon us.
I have no doubt at all either, that my connections to this Forum are also being radically reduced if not cut off completely, in order to keep concealed what has still to happen in my life and to protect us all. It appears as if the worst is just around the corner and this present communication shut down which also coincides with other major conditions that have been threatening, changing and putting pressures on the lives in my immediate family, could be the aesthetic in the Lords time out plan to accomplish His Will. I believe this is how it is because of the Mercy and great Wisdom of my God the Lion of Judah, the Rose of Sharon, the Morning Star, my Comfort and Lover of my soul my Sovereign God and Creator. I have not been at liberty to disclose to you what the other conditions that have been pressing us and threatening my precious family and this small blip of cut off phone lines is my brief window of opportunity through which I am sending you this bigger picture now, which I hope makes some sense to each one of you personally. I know you by name. I feel that I could recognise any of you anywhere by the Truths we mutually embrace and revere that we have in common in our acceptance and appreciation of the gifts of council, wisdom, edification, fellowship and teachings here in BT.
May each of you come to more deeply appreciate the privilege, blessing and healing comforts of the Truth and be aware of the great wonder of each and every word you type for other eyes to see, other hearts to hear and other souls to savour when you write in this Forum.
This is not good-bye I do not think. This is Adios! As and where ever and when ever I can, I shall visit, read, laugh, cry, think, reflect and write as inspired in the plan of God and His most Glorious Will for us all.
Peace to you ALL
Arcturus/Deborah
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Deborah,
You and your family are in our prayers. Thank you for contacting the forum and updating us on your circumstances. We have been very concerned about your welfare.
What you have described is most disturbing, but I must say that your faith inspires me in many ways.
Peace, mercy and His grace to you.
René
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You are loved, Deborah!
Praying for your strength and safety....
we will miss you until we hear from you again....
May His Peace be upon you as you walk boldly into whatever He has planned for you now.
God be with you, sister...friend. :'(
Joyce
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Arcturus-My hope and prayer for you and yours is to be strong and courages,and to stay under the wings of our loving father.I know you will finish the race not in weakness but in the srenghth of our lord and brother Jesus.
Till we meet-Peace and love to you!
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WOW! I know she is probably gone by now, but I just want to "testify" (remember that? :D) That I loved her as a sister in the Lord and valued her great insight into God's Word. This forum was blessed by her presence and I will miss her company here!
Lets remember to pray for Deborah and her family.
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I just read the other thread about "where has Arcturus been?" I had no idea that there were any troubles going on in South Africa!! Now in re reading her post I see how precious getting a message to us was.
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Dear Deborah,
My words fail to describe how I feel in this moment. All I can say is that I will pray for you, and God be with you and your family. Thanks to God for all that you have been, and still are to us at this forum.
Love and peace,
Eirik
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Deborah,
Even under such grave circumstances you are giving to us a gift of love and wisdom, and building us up and encouraging us as evil circumstances can happento any of us at any time. We all stand by the mercy of God. Thank you for your gracious gift of love and courage. May our Father keep you and your family in His loving care, and turn this evil into good.
As we look to the time His Kingdom brings peace to this earth.
Cindy
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Hi there Deborah/Arcturus!!!!
I have not been on the site for quite sometime now , b/c as you say, ...'the Lord has me putting into practical use the things that I am learning here!' (I have been studying with a local home school mom and she is now SOOO RECEPTIVE to all that Ray has written here! She has copied (in order) the diff teachings of Rays'...now we are praying for her family to come to understand these things as well. Anyway, God has given me a real live person in my city in which to share these truths with and for that I am thankful. I have missed all of you hear too! :-*
Since being gone for such long intervals anymore, when I came to the forum, I immediately read your email first Deborah! I am PRAYING for you dear sister! I trust that you will come out of this trial triumphantly!!! You mean SO MUCH to SO MANY of us here sis, so you keep us informed at every chance that you get; we will be waiting to hear from you! Would it be easier for you and your family to move from there, or does HE have you planted there for now? I love how you say that 'you have never met any of us here on the forum (in person), but that you could tell who we are if you met us on the street b/c of the unique spirit that is in each of us separately!" I feel the same about you too girly!!! :)
If you ever need a place to stay, I am here for you!!! :)
We love you and miss you already...
till we meet again, KEEP YOU EYES ON HIM AND HE WILL GIVE YOU THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART!!! ::)
MANY BLESSINGS FROM TEXAS!!! ;D
PS -sounds like those evil ppl need some good ole' Texas justice'...., until then, God will take care of them!!!! :-X
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Hi! Arcturus
I can't express in words how deeply moved I am after reading your heart rendering posting on your present predicament at the hands of some evil people. My prayers will accompany the prayers of all your dear friends and new family in Christ round the world for your safety and that of all your biological family. We miss you and your inspired insights and pray that you will soon be back to as normal as possible under the circumstances, and renew your much appreciated contribution to this forum.
May the good Lord grant you, your husband and family the courage to meet whatever lies ahead of you in His predestined plan for you all, and help you to overcome it to His glory.
Always remember dear lady that: "And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? " (Rom.8:28-31). With this in mind dear sister take courage for the Lord goes before you:
"No man will be able to stand before you all the days of your life. Just as I have been with Moses, I will be with you; I will not fail you or forsake you." (Josh.1:5).
We love all of you(http://dl7.glitter-graphics.net/pub/265/265947v59bl0120s.gif) (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)
God bless you sister and all your family in your walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
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Gods protection and Mercy be with you and your family.......
Its with a heavy heart I write this... :'(
What a blessing you are to us and a loved child of God.....
Your light that shines so bright is missed every second.
My prays are with you as our God is with you and your loved ones.
Joshua 1;9
Have I not commanded you?
Be Strong and of good courage;do not be afraid, nor be dismayed,
for Jehovah your God is with you wherever you go"
Be safe my Sister,
God save you and yours.
Your brother in Christ.
Randall
dis•may
Pronunciation: (dis-mā'), [key]
—v.t.
1. to break down the courage of completely, as by sudden danger or trouble; dishearten thoroughly; daunt: The surprise attack dismayed the enemy.
2. to surprise in such a manner as to disillusion: She was dismayed to learn of their disloyalty.
3. to alarm; perturb: The new law dismayed some of the more conservative politicians.
—n.
1. sudden or complete loss of courage; utter disheartenment.
2. sudden disillusionment.
3. agitation of mind; perturbation; alarm.
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Dearest Deborah,
200 Ks. to write to us.....Thank the Lord for that small window. My words can only echo the words that have been written before me..you are an inspiration to many......you and yours are in my prayers......and we shall keep the coffee pot ready for you...peace....Ellie...
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Dear Deborah,
My heart is so heavy reading your post. I am dumbfounded....absolutely speechless. Africa, oh Africa, land of my birthplace......... :'(
I have always enjoyed your posts. Being a new member I did not really get the chance to get to know you....but I thank my Lord and King that like you I know the truth now and if I do not get to meet you on this side of things, it will definitely be on the other side...he-he-he
God bless you and your family
Love in Christ
Heidi
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Hi Deborah,
Your posts are always very inspiring and insightful. I enjoy seeing your confidence in God and it is a privilege to learn from you. I pray that He will keep you close.
Steve
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Hello Sister Deborah,
Glad your okay, I just returned from Gettysburg. Pa on Vacation and wasn't aware of your situation until this Morning, didn't realize those kinds of problems were occurring in your neck of the woods. My prayers go out to you and your Family, my wife and I enjoy your comments and your Fellowship is missed in the meantime and if it's God's Will(Matt.6:9,10), you'll survive these trials and return to this forum in full force, although your with us in Spirit. :) :) :)
Your Brother in Christ, Samson(Brad)
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My Dear Friends
A big hug to you all with precious thanks for your expressions of faith and love. THANK YOU.
Again...I have a very narrow window of opportunity to get a message out to you....
Sampson thank you for the Word of God in your post to me.
I have had experienced praying to God to deliver me from my wickedness. Rays teachings radiate with such intensity the voice and presence of the Spirit of Christ as I experience lapses into carnal unconsciousness and being raised up again to perceive that I am really a baby in spirit delivered into HIS hands and will! It is so vast what I am experiencing that I am at a loss for words and at the same time SO grateful that I have the gift of expression that can at least vent some pressure off me in producing words and thoughts and sentences that I hope water, nourish and console those reading this.
From Rays paper on "How hard is getting Saved?" ....start doing what's right. always. You can't do it unless you regenerated, born again, converted, spiritually in your heart, and have God's Spirit....God is the one who is going to see you through it. ....
These words of teaching via Ray, should be weighted in GOLD...they are heavy, precious and perceiving them for the worth they express has been made accessable through fire and pain and suffering. They remain an intellectual dainty that entices and temps to gratification if read by the carnal mind but they are POWER and conviction that GOD alone is the ONE who is to deliver us from vanity, pride and bondage of corruption.
My time has run out and I regret being unable to read the other posts that have come in. Suffice to say, I return all your good feelings and concerns and prayers. THANK YOU ALL.
Blessed Peace be to you in each one of your individual circumstances.
Deborah.
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Deb--
Before you leave....quickly....here's a coffee for you to take with you!
Be safe, my friend, my sister.....thinking of you EVERY DAY!!!
Joyce :)
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;D OOOPS! almost forgot the coconut flavoring!!!
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There now, isn't that better?
Joyce :)
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I will keep you in my prayers Deborah.
1 Peter 1
7That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
8Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
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Dear Deb,
There is little I can add to all the wonderful responses your message inspired, you and your family are in my prayers.
You are missed Sister, but I know that whatever God has in store for you (and all of us) will be for our betterment and eventual perfection.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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Hi! Deborah
You and your family are in my prayers daily and will be till you return to us on this forum, you are truly missed.
Be strong all will workout in accordance with His will; “No man will be able to stand before you all the days of your life. Just as I have been with Moses, I will be with you; I will not fail you or forsake you.....Only be strong and very courageous; be careful to do according to all the law which Moses My servant commanded you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, so that you may have success wherever you go." (Josh.1:5,7).
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God bless you sister in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
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Hello All:
I actually saw Arcturus logged in this morning, June 4th, around 7:00am EST. I don't know if anyone else noticed but at least we know she is doing well enough to read the forum for inspiration and fellowship.
Marques
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Arcturus,
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as well as for your country. Although, I never condoned the old political system I have always been concerned that the new could be much worse.
I do fear the United States is headed toward a breakdown within it's political system and wonder how long it will be before we experience the trials of South Africa.
I so admire your quiet courage and your acceptance of GOD'S total involvement in the circumstances you face. All of us could use your courage, insight, and spiritual strength. I will very much miss your posts on BT as I always find them a source of renewing strength. Many will be praying for your safety and a return to sanity in South Africa. I know you have complete trust in GOD and that HE is in total control. I pray that you will soon have unencumbered access to the Internet as your input is very highly valued by so many.
In HIM.
Phil3:10
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Hello All:
I actually saw Arcturus logged in this morning, June 4th, around 7:00am EST. I don't know if anyone else noticed but at least we know she is doing well enough to read the forum for inspiration and fellowship.
Marques
Hey Marques,
Yes I saw her logged in also.
She was logged in around the same time yesterday.
I pray every night all is well with her and that its the Lords will for her to return to us soon.
Love and Peace to all,
Suzie
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:D Marques and Suzie....I saw her too.....anyone hear from her?
Joyce :)
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Hi all,
Deb sent me a PM.
She's safe but somewhat troubled.
I know she can use ours prayers.
She didn't say what it was but its more than just the loss of her net connection.
She is going to answers the post made to her but not at this time, I really know she is in heavy thought and concerns but her faith seems to be growing stronger.
I know your concerns touched her heart and thats worth more than money can buy, much as I'm sure we can all relate.
Gods peace and mercy to all.
Randy
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Hello Arcturus. Here is a word for you.
1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation. Psalm 91.
Hope that helps. You are in my prayers. Love from Australia
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Oh that is one of my all time favorite scriptures!!! The rich imagery just glorifies and magnifies His Goodness to us!
Picture dwelling in the SECRET place, only known to HIM, and under the SHADOW of the ALLMIGHTY!!!!!!!
Whooooo, gives ya goosebumps!!
Godspeed dear Arcturus.
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Hello Phil 3 : 10
thank you for your encouraging words. There is no higher compliment for me than a person recognise the Spirit and qualities of Christ that He gives to us. There is hope in Him alone.
Mharell08
I am not able to read the Forum as I used to. I have limited access. I am delighted that the time I am spending now is in digesting and integrating the teachings that Ray has shared with us to deeper levels and much much boarder significance. I have noticed spending two days just contemplating the ramifications of a single sentence in Rays writings! It is a new level with the luxury of conversations now drastically curtailed.
Hi Joyce
thanks for the coffee and that favorite cup that you sent some time back! I did have a cup of coffee with you specially in mind as I said I would!
Randy
Thank you for keeping the members calm and secure in the truth that God is in charge of everything!
Geoff
those scriptures are wonderful and it means a lot that you are in Australia. We certainly are scattered! The Scriptures can not be broken.
Hey G
It is good to see you! Hope the grand children are doing just fine!
Peace to you all
Deborah
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:D Hi Deb....it's always a better day when I come here and see you've posted! How is your situation now? Do you believe it is getting worse, better or the same? Do you have food and shelter? Are you able to get medical attention if need be?
I've watched the refugee camps being run in such a hap-hazzard way....I can only imagine what you've been through...and I understand if you cannot answer this question directly....
You know that I can't drink coffee without thinking of you, right? :)
Be safe, my sister, my friend! :)
Joyce :)
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...still praying here Arcturus!! Let us know what the condition of your family and your environment is. MUCH LOVE SISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-* A HOLY KISS FOR YOU!!! :-*
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Greetings!
Thank you Joyful1 and Susan for the welcome and happy thoughts!
Please know that my circumstances are SPIRITUAL more than PHYSICAL. Not one hair on my head has been harmed. I am in the boat in the storm, I am in the prelude to the Shadrech Mishack and Abendigo furnace!!! I am not in physical harm I m surrounded by forces of a spiritual nature that are manifesting in a threatening physical, emotional and sentimental threat to my world as I have known it.
Your prayers and fellowship in the knowledge that Christ has Planned everything I am experiencing is a HUGE support like YOU are the BOAT because YOU have the unison of Spirit in Truth and in Wisdom. THIS is a great blessing, comfort and encouragement to me.
Blessed Peace to you
Deb
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Hi Deborah,
It is great to see you are still with us! And no doubt Jesus is with you.
Love and Peace,
Lisa
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Thanks for keeping in touch, Deb....I know it must be hard for you to be able to do this or you would be here everyday! You will remain in my prayers and thoughts. It probably is easier for you to receive your messages in one place, to be able to access them quickly, so I'll remain to post here rather than in PM, if that is ok with you?
Be strong my friend, sister.......I wish we could see you!
Joyce :)
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Hey Joyce....looks can be deceptive...very deceptive ;D I know that how I appear physically is not how I am in the spirit and hope to be better looking in spirit!!
Sure it is okay to keep posting here. Thank you.
Lisa
Thanks for the words! I know that Jesus IS dealing with me!...and those of my household too....
Blessed peace everyone
Deb
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Hey Arcturus/Deb,
How great it is to see you post.
I continue to pray all is well with you and yours, and that it's the Lord's will you return to us again in full force. You wisdom and encouragement are sorely missed.
Peace and Love,
Suzie
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Hi! Arcturus
It's great to hear that you're not in any serious life threatening danger and I pray we will soon be having your welcome insights again on this forum. Take care and God be with you and your family.
God bless you sister in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
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Hi Arcturus,
Great to hear from you. You and family are in our prayers
God Bless You
Sandie x
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Deb/Arcturus,
It is wonderful to see your posts, and to hear you and your family are well physically. And spiritually strong! I miss your insightful posts, and look forward to the time when you can speak freely and share your experiences with us as you always see circumstances from a spiritual viewpoint. Meanwhile I pray our Father keep you and your family in His loving care.
Your sister in Christ,
Cindy
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:D Deb--
what I meant was...I wish that we could "see" you....as in.....you come here for a visit! or to live! Just a thought! Have they got any idea when the power cables might be restored? If ever? Can you recommend a particular online paper for news of what is going on in your area? I check "Gauteng, South Africa News" for updates now....but maybe there is something better?
Joyce :)
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It's good to see you Arcturus.
I hope God opens the door so you can join us again soon.
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Hello everyone
Thank you for your posts and thoughts.
I am by no means out of the woods yet and the furnace is still up ahead. Your prayers have been a great comfort and I know that Jesus Christ hears you and responds accordingly! Thank you.
The lines will not be replaced. An alternative is possible in short wave communication that is independent of cables. The news here on the political front has already been covered in the book of Revelations. As prophesied, all is getting worse not better and we are thankful to be in the palm of His Hands and in His unalterable Purpose. It is very difficult to the flesh but there is reward for the soul and Spirit. I am assured daily in searching the Scriptures which He has blessed and caused me to continue.
I am leaning things that are not very easy to put into words.....like the difference between the profile of MY mind and the Mind of Christ. The difference is stagerring!
Today I am thankful that the carnal man will die.....
Peace to you all
Deb Arcturus
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Dear DebArcturus
Your words "The difference between the profile of your mind and that of Christ is staggering!" is a profound statement and very much on the lines of what my current post "I Was Just Thinking" is all about. Yes the prophesies are being fulfilled and at a staggering rate for the worse and not for the better not only in South Africa but all over the world. All is of God and ALL will be accomplished as He has spoken.
God bless you sister and your family in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK