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;D to be a believer,do u really need god ,or u only want to get eternal of life from god?
please be honest,ask your self and don't answer my Q,answer yourself.
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Hi soberxp,
John 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own.
v. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
v. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
v. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand.
v. 30 I and My Father are one."
Salvation and eternal life only comes by and through Jesus Christ. God has a plan that He is working out, a process. Jesus Christ was resurrected as the First-fruit from the dead, at the first resurrection will be those that are begotten by the Holy Spirit of God in this life.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all will be made alive.
v. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first-fruit, and afterward they who are Christ's at His coming;
Joh 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
The only way to have 'life' is from the indwelling of the Holy spirit. At this time this Holy Spirit/Helper/Comforter is only given to a very few, a small number of people He is preparing and will use to bring to rest to salvation later in the great white throne judgment period. So God is not trying to save the world now, only the few that God is drawing to Him (John 6:44) will receive salvation and be in the first resurrection. He chooses those He desires (actually "the base things" (1Co 1:28) and we can not in any way qualify, deserve, earn, win or have a right to this life-giving spirit of begettal and salvation of our own accord. We all have sinned just as the first man Adam did and just as he died we also shall die and be gone.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
1Cor 15:46 But it is not the spiritual which is first but the physical, and then the spiritual.
So the way of this world is that all must die and return to the dust, this is the physical. Without Christ's resurrection there is no hope of anything else beyond this physical life.
1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised.
v. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins.
v. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
v. 19 If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied.
Jesus Christ came in the flesh to give mankind hope that this physical death is not the end of it all. Now He is only giving the begettal/earnest of this spirit-life to a very few, the chosen/Elect.
1Co 15:47 The first man (Adam) was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man (Christ) is from heaven.
v. 48 As was the man of dust(Adam), so are those who are of the dust(all mankind); and as is the man of heaven(Christ), so are those who are of heaven(Chosen/Elect, now).
v. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust(Adam), we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven(Christ).
v. 50 I tell you this, brethren: flesh and blood (physical/carnal) cannot inherit the kingdom of God(spiritual), nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
So it's all up to God... if we are seeking the truth, He caused us to... if we understand this truth, it's by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that He gave us... if we endure to the end, then we will be in the first resurrection and that was His plan from the beginning.
Mat 25:34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
v. 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
v. 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
v. 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Bull's eye Kat!~ :)
Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the Purpose of Him Who Worketh All things after The Counsel of His Own Will:
Arc
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I do believe in God, I do believe in God, I do believe in God.
Longhorn
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I believe there is God and I believe I am not him ;D
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Soberx?, I saw your question a bit differently. Yes, I need God but even if He did not promise my ressurrection, I would still love Him because once you have experienced His love it is impossible to forget it, and living one's life without it you just know would be a life lived superficially, ignorant, judgemental and hateful and certainly NOT abundantly!!!!
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Soberx?, I saw your question a bit differently. Yes, I need God but even if He did not promise my ressurrection, I would still love Him because once you have experienced His love it is impossible to forget it, and living one's life without it you just know would be a life lived superficially, ignorant, judgemental and hateful and certainly NOT abundantly!!!!
yes!cuz somehow I found the chinese version a little bit upset,.so I was focused on the scripture,and I heard something new which I never heard.
mar 10:28 Peter said to him, "We have left everything to follow you!"
mar 10:29 "I tell you the truth," Jesus replied, "no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel
mar 10:30 will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life.
cuz if a sentence's punctuation having different uses in different means.
1.no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life.
2.no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel !!!!!!!(a sentence's punctuation having different uses in different means. ),,,, (no one for me and the gospel)will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life.(this is a strange idea,IMO,why did Jesus focus on it)
and another point to proof it.
Joh 13:36 Simon Peter asked him, "Lord, where are you going?" Jesus replied, "Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later."
Joh 13:37 Peter asked, "Lord, why can't I follow you now? I will lay down my life for you."
Joh 13:38 Then Jesus answered, "Will you really lay down your life for me? I tell you the truth, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times!
Correct me if I am wrong,thx
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Soberxp, are you just wondering WHYJesus focused on this OR do you wonder WHAT Jesus meant??
There are rewards in this life for following Jesus but there is also a price to pay. You will have to die to yourself and that isn't easy to give up your life unless you love Him very much because He first loved you.
The rewards are just what he said, family (like a missionary or a minister who have a congregation or what we have here on this site)
Joy (because we know Him and our future with Him)
Lands ( those who follow Him into other lands to serve the gospel, (feeding, educating, helping)
I think he made it clear what we will have and what we will suffer. He doesn't want anyone to decide this in a hasty manner. He is warning us and giving us encouragement, making us seriously decide and weighing everything which is always the best thing to do. He is a good boss! He wants us to succeed by understanding what will be required and also alerting us that we will have persecutions. judy
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I wonder WHAT Jesus really meant.did u get that a sentence's punctuation having different uses in different means.I ask this,cuz I'm not good at english language,I'm not sure I understand it right.but it's really upset in chinese version,cuz spoken language no punctuation,the translator seemed to translated mar 10:29 and mar 10:30 as a whole sentence.I don't know whether you also thought mar 10:29 and mar 10:30 as a whole sentence.then I ask and wonder WHAT Jesus really meant.
rember
Daniel 6:4 [niv]At this, the administrators and the satraps tried to find grounds for charges against Daniel in his conduct of government affairs, but they were unable to do so. They could find no corruption in him, because he was trustworthy and neither corrupt nor negligent. ....ETC Dan 6:24
no one for me and the gospel will persecutions ;D that's what I got from word of god .
P.S:all the translator focused on eternal life,they Rather get persecutions but only focused on eternal life,LOL~!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
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Thank you for remind me.
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Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My Name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 8)
Arc
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;D to be a believer,do u really need god ,or u only want to get eternal of life from god?
please be honest,ask your self and don't answer my Q,answer yourself.
Soberxp,
I looked at Your Thread similar to Judy, but it's not the aspect of Eonian(Eternal) Life from God. Besides, only God's Chosen Elect get Eonian(the life of the age) life. Everyone else, believers, Non-believers, the despicably wicked, etc. will have to wait for God's Judgements after being Resurrected and cleaned in the Lake of Fire. It seems your question Is: Do we want or need God only because eventually He will save us and give us Immortality in the future. I believe like the Apostle Paul when considering the Resurrection, you wanted an honest opinion. If this Life was Our only hope, to be followed by Endless Death(Nonexistence) without a Hope of eventually being Resurrected, the Scriptures would be broken, God wouldn't be love and He would be a Liar. Why ? Because it wouldn't be loving to create us in the physical, put us on the Earth with the prospect of only dying, after 70-80 years of life and allot of people don't even get to live that long.
Here's my honest opinion ! The Resurrection of the dead is the most important teaching in the Scriptures for all Humans, without it, We would all eventually die and remain in that state. Everyone that is dead, except Jesus, are still dead without consciousness and need God to Resurrect them in order to live again. Here are some Scriptural examples that give us that hope: Elijah and Elisha performed some Resurrections(Read 1kings. 17:17-24; 2Kings. 4:32-37 & 13:20,21). Jesus Resurrected Lazarus, the widow of Nain's Son, Jairus Daughter, (Read:Luke. 7:11-15; 8:49-56; John. 11:38-44.) Some Resurrections were performed by The Apostles, notably Eutychus, the guy who fell asleep at the window listening to Paul and fell to His death, Acts. 20:7-12. Read 1Cor. 15: 12-19, some of these points: Verse 17: If Christ has not be raised up, your faith is useless; Verse 14: If Christ has not been raised up, Our preaching is in Vain, Our faith is in vain. Paul also said we are to be pitied, if there isn't a Resurrection.
So, All of the Resurrections that were performed according to the Scriptures give us Hope and even though all those Resurrected died again, except Jesus, We have that Hope of eventually receiving a Resurrection(Acts. 24:15). Either way, God is Sovereign, Resurrection or no Resurrection, but I don't think We could ever truly love Him, if this Life is all there is. A Life of suffering, trials, tribulation and pain followed by endless death without a hope of a Resurrection. That is not Love !
My Honest Opinion, Samson.
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Hi Soberxp,
yes!cuz somehow I found the chinese version a little bit upset,.so I was focused on the scripture,and I heard something new which I never heard.
mar 10:28 Peter said to him, "We have left everything to follow you!"
mar 10:29 "I tell you the truth," Jesus replied, "no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel
mar 10:30 will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life.
Mark 10:29-30 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's...
What Jesus is saying here to me, is that when your eyes are opened to this truth usually you are the only person in your sphere of family and friends that is being called out. Your whole life changes, you are now on a different path, the narrow path, while all those you know continue down the same path as the rest of the world. The Holy spirit drives those that are called to seek this truth above all other things, which may put us at odds with others. As many have attested to here this new way of life can lead to tension as our family, that is still blind believe we have forsaken the church. Which we have, so we must go our separate ways from them to some degree.
...who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life.
But as Jesus goes on to say, those that are called out are not really all alone. God is bringing others out of the church too, maybe not in our own neighborhood, but there are others in this world being called out just like us. I don't know about pass generations, but right now here on this forum we do have contact with other believers, this is a great blessing.
Now for believers there will be persecution, it is just the way it is when you are different than the rest of the world. People have always picked on (hated) someone who stands out as different.
So Jesus is saying He knows that believers will have friends and family that will turn away from them and they will also suffer persecution. But never forget no matter what we suffer in this life, no matter if everybody turns away from us now, our ultimate goal is to enter the kingdom at His return, which is eternal life.
1Cor 2:9 But as it is written:
"Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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I value what we have all shared. For me, it reveals that....
1Co 2:10 For us, however, God has drawn aside the veil through the teaching of the Spirit; for the Spirit searches everything, including the depths of the Divine Nature.
and.....
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My Voice, and I know them, and they follow Me:
Arc
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I've come to accept death so much on this site i really don't care if i am resurrected. I will be dead and not know it anyway!
Honestly just to get through this life with the backing of God is fine with me. I don't want to rule anybody or come back to this world. I surely wouldn't mind a heaven where there are no more tears or suffering but I won't know anyway if I am dead!
I used to put my hope in eternal life but not since coming here with no heaven to look forward to for maybe even thousands of yrs.
Whatever He wants to do is O.K. I don't need some great reward, I have seen with my own eyes the goodness of God and am quite satisfied.
I have done an excellent job of accepting death.
Judy
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Samson
my Q is do u really need god ,other way or do u only want to get eternal of life from god ?
my purpose is, if I only want to get eternal of life from god ,I may indulge myself,why?cuz I don't even know real god for sure.but if I really need and want to understand our god,I will never fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age and in the age to come, eternal life! and I will never (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions)!!
and Jesus replied to peter :"for me and gospel",not only for Jesus.if peter really lie down his life for Jesus how about gospel,we should don't have the chapter "1Peter" "2Peter" even any chapter from 12 apostle,and if anyone who for Jesus and gospel will get persecutions,how can it be?we should don't even know bible.
did you get my point?
1st sentence as a whole sentence.(no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel)
!!!!!!!(a sentence's punctuation having different uses in different means. ),,,,
2nd sentence as a whole sentence. will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life.
who will fail to receive a hundred times ? (not for Jesus and the gospel)
as much?(as what?who will fail to receive a hundred times,and then? homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields--and with them, persecutions)
will fail to receive a hundred times(fail to receive for what? eternal life , the gospel and Jesus)
what's the persecutions?(they left homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields)
why they got the persecutions?(cuz they not for Jesus and fail to receive the gospel)
why they not for Jesus and gospel?(cuz they got the persecutions for lack wisdom,for pagan,for false teaching as the jewish community center did it befor,but not for Jesus and fail to receive gospel)
and why?(cuz you know,god of gods,lord of lords.what a wisdom and love is beyond words by Jesus.)
P.S:
can you say proudly:"OOOOO I LEFT MY HOME ,brothers, sisters, mother, children and fields for the gospel and Jesus" to anyone who didn't LEFT HOME, brothers, sisters, mother, children and fields but still for gospel and Jesus.
rember at that time,Jesus said:"for I come,not bring peace......etc".did you think that means today china and America should fight for war? ;D of crous NO!!!! Jesus said that means in the certain place(promised land) at that time that place that race(Israel),the specific situation was total not for peace at all.
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8) and for Peter,I didn't want to blame him for what he was doing.let us see his scriptural.
2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
2Pe 1:2 Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord. (Making One's Calling and Election Sure )
2Pe 1:3 His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
2Pe 1:4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
2Pe 1:5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness;
2Pe 1:7 and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love.
2Pe 1:8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.
2Pe 1:10 Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall,
2Pe 1:11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (Prophecy of Scripture )
2Pe 1:12 So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have.
2Pe 1:13 I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body,
2Pe 1:14 because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.
2Pe 1:15 And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember these things.
2Pe 1:16 We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
2Pe 1:17 For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
2Pe 1:18 We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.
2Pe 1:19 And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
2Pe 1:20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
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2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
2Pe 2:5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
2Pe 2:6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
2Pe 2:7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
2Pe 2:8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
2Pe 2:9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
2Pe 2:10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority.
2Pe 2:11 Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
2Pe 2:12 But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
2Pe 2:13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
2Pe 2:14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed--an accursed brood!
2Pe 2:15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness.
2Pe 2:16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey--a beast without speech--who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's madness.
2Pe 2:17 These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them.
2Pe 2:18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
2Pe 2:19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity--for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
2Pe 2:20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.
2Pe 2:22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."
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2Pe 3:1 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking.
2Pe 3:2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.
2Pe 3:3 First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.
2Pe 3:4 They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."
2Pe 3:5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water.
2Pe 3:6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.
2Pe 3:7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
2Pe 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
2Pe 3:11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives
2Pe 3:12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
2Pe 3:13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
2Pe 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
2Pe 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
2Pe 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.
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1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To God's elect, strangers in the world, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia,
1Pe 1:2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. (Praise to God for a Living Hope )
1Pe 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1Pe 1:4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade--kept in heaven for you,
1Pe 1:5 who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
1Pe 1:6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials.
1Pe 1:7 These have come so that your faith--of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire--may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.
1Pe 1:8 Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy,
1Pe 1:9 for you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
1Pe 1:10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care,
1Pe 1:11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.
1Pe 1:12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. (Be Holy )
1Pe 1:13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action; be self-controlled; set your hope fully on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is revealed.
1Pe 1:14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance.
1Pe 1:15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do;
1Pe 1:16 for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."
1Pe 1:17 Since you call on a Father who judges each man's work impartially, live your lives as strangers here in reverent fear.
1Pe 1:18 For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers,
1Pe 1:19 but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.
1Pe 1:20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
1Pe 1:21 Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.
1Pe 1:22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart.
1Pe 1:23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
1Pe 1:24 For, "All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall,
1Pe 1:25 but the word of the Lord stands forever." And this is the word that was preached to you.
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1Pe 2:1 Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind.
1Pe 2:2 Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation,
1Pe 2:3 now that you have tasted that the Lord is good. (The Living Stone and a Chosen People )
1Pe 2:4 As you come to him, the living Stone--rejected by men but chosen by God and precious to him--
1Pe 2:5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 For in Scripture it says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
1Pe 2:7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, "
1Pe 2:8 and, "A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall." They stumble because they disobey the message--which is also what they were destined for.
1Pe 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
1Pe 2:10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
1Pe 2:11 Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul.
1Pe 2:12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us. (Submission to Rulers and Masters )
1Pe 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority,
1Pe 2:14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.
1Pe 2:15 For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men.
1Pe 2:16 Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God.
1Pe 2:17 Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.
1Pe 2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
1Pe 2:19 For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God.
1Pe 2:20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.
1Pe 2:21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
1Pe 2:22 "He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."
1Pe 2:23 When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly.
1Pe 2:24 He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed.
1Pe 2:25 For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
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벧전 3:1 Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives,
벧전 3:2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.
벧전 3:3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes.
벧전 3:4 Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.
벧전 3:5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands,
벧전 3:6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
벧전 3:7 Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers. (Suffering for Doing Good )
벧전 3:8 Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble.
벧전 3:9 Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.
벧전 3:10 For, "Whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech.
벧전 3:11 He must turn from evil and do good; he must seek peace and pursue it.
벧전 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil."
벧전 3:13 Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good?
벧전 3:14 But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. "Do not fear what they fear ; do not be frightened."
벧전 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
벧전 3:16 keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
벧전 3:17 It is better, if it is God's will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
벧전 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,
벧전 3:19 through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison
벧전 3:20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
벧전 3:21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also--not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
벧전 3:22 who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand--with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
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1Pe 4:1 Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin.
1Pe 4:2 As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.
1Pe 4:3 For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do--living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.
1Pe 4:4 They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you.
1Pe 4:5 But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
1Pe 4:6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.
1Pe 4:7 The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray.
1Pe 4:8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
1Pe 4:9 Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling.
1Pe 4:10 Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms.
1Pe 4:11 If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen. (Suffering for Being a Christian )
1Pe 4:12 Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you.
1Pe 4:13 But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed.
1Pe 4:14 If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.
1Pe 4:15 If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler.
1Pe 4:16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
1Pe 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
1Pe 4:18 And, "If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?"
1Pe 4:19 So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.
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彼前 5:1 To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder, a witness of Christ's sufferings and one who also will share in the glory to be revealed:
彼前 5:2 Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseers--not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve;
彼前 5:3 not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.
彼前 5:4 And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
彼前 5:5 Young men, in the same way be submissive to those who are older. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."
彼前 5:6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time.
彼前 5:7 Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.
彼前 5:8 Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
彼前 5:9 Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
彼前 5:10 And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
彼前 5:11 To him be the power for ever and ever. Amen. (Final Greetings )
彼前 5:12 With the help of Silas, whom I regard as a faithful brother, I have written to you briefly, encouraging you and testifying that this is the true grace of God. Stand fast in it.
彼前 5:13 She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.
彼前 5:14 Greet one another with a kiss of love. Peace to all of you who are in Christ.
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I think this has gone beyond a question and turned into teaching. Let's close it up and remember why we've gathered together.