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Title: Freewill-Evolution
Post by: waarheid77 on November 17, 2010, 03:12:17 AM
Here is something that was told to me. What do you think?

It is my postulation that the theory of free will has in a very subversive way lead to many current theories that have polluted and corrupted other areas of learning.  For instance, the theory of evolution states, or at least it use to (they have since changed their theory from random selection to natural selection), that life came from a completely unguided, random, and mindless process.  For the longest time theoretic physicist have maintained that the universe originated from nothing.  Notice the common denominator: something from nothing.  It is logically incoherent and intellectually dishonest to believe that something comes from nothing.  How can it?  It breaks all rules of science, biology, and anything less than a sound mind.  You didn't come from nothing.  Your child did come from nothing, as you may well attest.  Scientist now say that the universe had a beginning, or in other words something caused the universes beginning.  Evolutionist have since "evolve" their theory from random selection, to natural selection, indicating an underlying scheme in which healthier or more well equipped creatures  survived and their counterparts did not.  In other words, there is a cause to how and why one creatures survives and why one does not.  So why are people still submitting to the theory that our thoughts and actions have no motivations or causes, but are "free" ?  If our thoughts indeed came from nothing(not from experience, education, language dictates, etc.) how could any coherent thought be possible?  Would not this lead to jumbled, incoherent, disjointed words and sentences.  How could you verbally communicate or write a book?  If our actions had no causes, this means you could function normally WITHOUT A BRAIN!!!  Does any of this make sense?  Neither does "will" without a cause and a motivator.   To use an old cliché, "nothing is free."


Blessings and love to all,
Ken
Title: Re: Freewill-Evolution
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on November 17, 2010, 06:10:31 AM
Hi Ken,

I enjoyed the quote you posted. I believe that whoever wrote it, can see Truth!

To see God THROUGH ALL and in ALL is an expression of spiritual liberty. God is in all, through all and with all.

Those dark dusty theories of man, are simply part of a God experience, designed to purge and purify.  :D :)

Blessings to you dear brother
Arc
Title: Re: Freewill-Evolution
Post by: daywalker on November 17, 2010, 01:33:25 PM

Sounds very well put.


Here is something that was told to me. What do you think?

It is my postulation that the theory of free will has in a very subversive way lead to many current theories that have polluted and corrupted other areas of learning.  For instance, the theory of evolution states, or at least it use to (they have since changed their theory from random selection to natural selection), that life came from a completely unguided, random, and mindless process.  For the longest time theoretic physicist have maintained that the universe originated from nothing.  Notice the common denominator: something from nothing.  It is logically incoherent and intellectually dishonest to believe that something comes from nothing.  How can it?  It breaks all rules of science, biology, and anything less than a sound mind.  You didn't come from nothing.  Your child did come from nothing, as you may well attest.  Scientist now say that the universe had a beginning, or in other words something caused the universes beginning.  Evolutionist have since "evolve" their theory from random selection, to natural selection, indicating an underlying scheme in which healthier or more well equipped creatures  survived and their counterparts did not.  In other words, there is a cause to how and why one creatures survives and why one does not.  So why are people still submitting to the theory that our thoughts and actions have no motivations or causes, but are "free" ?  If our thoughts indeed came from nothing(not from experience, education, language dictates, etc.) how could any coherent thought be possible?  Would not this lead to jumbled, incoherent, disjointed words and sentences.  How could you verbally communicate or write a book?  If our actions had no causes, this means you could function normally WITHOUT A BRAIN!!!  Does any of this make sense?  Neither does "will" without a cause and a motivator.   To use an old cliché, "nothing is free."


Blessings and love to all,
Ken
Title: Re: Freewill-Evolution
Post by: cjwood on November 19, 2010, 04:22:24 AM
i found this an interesting read.  wonder if the author has ever visited our awesome bt website?  thanks for posting it.

claudia
Title: Re: Freewill-Evolution
Post by: Akira329 on November 19, 2010, 01:48:25 PM
No matter how evolutionist spin it there is no way around the first cause.
Interesting read.

Antaiwan
Title: Re: Freewill-Evolution
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on November 19, 2010, 04:08:55 PM

It is always a pleasure, it is life, to reflect upon and enjoy our Lord and His Word and Truth.

Thank you for sharing Ken

Blessings
Arc
Title: Re: Freewill-Evolution
Post by: dave on November 21, 2010, 05:44:23 AM
Waarheid77 " If our thoughts indeed came from nothing(not from experience, education, language dictates, etc.) how could any coherent thought be possible?

If we didnt come from nothing [and I believe we did no come from nothing] where do you say we came from? As for what you stated, Im in the car and riding home with you. God Bless.