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Title: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: geokuhns on July 03, 2011, 01:35:13 AM
Want to give 101%?  :o
Check out this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=h60r2HPsiuM&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: cjwood on July 03, 2011, 02:01:40 AM
very interesting stuff george. 

claudia
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 03, 2011, 06:04:54 AM


There are no accidents!

Great symmetry to human limitation, may appear as chaos, yet there remains the signature of great Design, Purpose and Order that comprise the thoughts of our Creator who is Love.

Rom 5:20  Now Law was brought in later on, so that transgression might increase. But where sin increased, grace has OVERFLOWED;
Rom 5:21  in order that as sin has exercised kingly sway in inflicting death, so grace, too, may exercise kingly sway in bestowing a righteousness which results in the Life of the Ages through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Thanks George!

Arc
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Craig on July 03, 2011, 09:07:59 AM
I hate to rain on the parade but  Love of Satan equals 130%.  Babylonian gobbledygook.  Some minister in some church in the last week has given a sermon with this message and all the people were amazed.

Craig
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 03, 2011, 09:55:11 AM
LOL Craig ~         


"..rain on the parade" over takes hard work, knowldege, attitude, the love of God and even leaves the love of Satan in the dust in a wopping lead of 149% ! ~ :D   

 ~ light hearted banter! ~ .... 187% ~

SEVEN MEANS COMPLETE ~  LOF 7 ~  :D :) ;D

Arc


Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Rene on July 03, 2011, 12:59:47 PM
I hate to rain on the parade but  Love of Satan equals 130%.  Babylonian gobbledygook.  Some minister in some church in the last week has given a sermon with this message and all the people were amazed.

Craig


IMO, there is a lot of "seduction" in this video.  It pulls you in, frame-by-frame, with mathematical facts which ultimately are used to seduce you into accepting its final message.  Even the music is perfectly inserted to add to the build up. :D

I receive emails, on almost a weekly basis, with beautiful, loving messages from well meaning "Christians" that usually instruct me to forward on to someone I love or want to bless.  I never forward these "chain messages" on, because IMO, they are full of superstitions. :P

René
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 03, 2011, 02:58:21 PM
Going off topic a little here George ~ :)

Rene raises a very important issue!

Some of the most beautiful heartfelt messages I’ve seen, carry the sting of the superstition hook at the end of them that if snagged, can do more damage than good tempting attention to  issues of superstition in religious hobbyist mode of offense.

To return the complement and sentiment in corresponding to some of the magnificent messages I received, I recently sent back a response by forwarding something I found insightfully useful which, not on purpose, went not too far over the head of the recipient hitting the apple on their head, right to the pip! I tried not to hit too far over the head into the tree! Lol or too far down into their feelings to gouge out an eye or hit them in the heart to kill the friendship.

Sure, it’s great to drop the bow and arrows and sit under the tree to indulge in the fruit of the Spirit, yet that can only be enjoyed where there is the purged and purified absence of even the slightest stain or whiff of hypocrisy in us.

 Messages with tag on superstition, are to be overcome by us Godly Marksmen and women of the Kingdom of Christ.
After all, we have a lot of arrows we can tag onto some of those meaningful cries for fellowship crying out of bondage in Egyptian persecution.

After getting my response, the person who sent me the heart felt message with the sting attachment, did not return back and stand under the tree with another apple of superstition on their heads waiting for me to shoot . To my happy surprise, feelings weren’t hurt and the next message I received had no sting to be seen and I didn’t even have to lend focus upon the word suspicion or seduction!
I think what can happen is they can leave the tree and go find someone else to shoot at them or what happened in my case, the next message was really perfect...no sting attached and really sweet and endearing and might I say, very humbling.

Few know what we know. Fewer know how to know what we know. There are even less who even want to know.
 We with gladness, lay our lives down for the sheep. ~

It took me a very long time to get this strategy under my belt. I had to ache and grieve under the insidious tags put upon some of the most beautiful messages! It wasn’t easy.

Arc
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 03, 2011, 03:08:49 PM

I'm still practising! ~ :D

I think it is worth it though if the apple is a hang mans noose around the neck of the person standing under the tree!

Arc
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Dennis Vogel on July 03, 2011, 03:14:13 PM
The first part is fun and made possible by the number zero.

The second part? If you don't speek English, you're ...
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 03, 2011, 03:25:50 PM


lol Denny...Zero is not a number ~  :D...it's a placer! ~but so what! ~ :D :D

As for the not speaking english...maybe this is true...

According to the linguists, all human languages obey Law. It's a really weird law, but it's not that hard to understand. Start off by getting a big fat book. Then, count the number of times each word appears in that book. You might find that the number one most popular word is "the" (which appears 2,000 times), followed by the second most popular word "a" (which appears 1,800 times), and so on. Right down at the bottom of the list, you have the least popular word, which might be "elephant", and which appears just once.
Set up two columns of numbers. One column is the order of popularity of the words, running from "1" for "the", and "2" for "a", right down "1,000" for "elephant". The other column counts how many times each word appeared, starting off with 2,000 appearances of "the", then 1,800 appearances of "a", down to one appearance of "elephant".
 
If you then plot on the right kind of graph paper, the order of popularity of the words, against the number of times each word appears you get a straight line! Even more amazingly, this straight line appears for every human language - whether it's English or Egyptian, Eskimo or Chinese! Now the DNA is just one continuous ladder of squillions of rungs, and is not neatly broken up into individual words (like a book).

So the scientists looked at a very long bit of DNA, and made artificial words by breaking up the DNA into "words" each 3 rungs long. And then they tried it again for "words" 4 rungs long, 5 rungs long, and so on up to 8 rungs long. They then analysed all these words, and to their surprise, they got the same sort of Zipf Law/straight-line-graph for the human DNA (which is mostly introns), as they did for the human languages!

There seems to be some sort of language buried in the so-called junk DNA! Certainly, the next few years will be a very good time to make a career change into the field of genetics.

So now, around the edge of the new millennium, we have a reasonable understanding of the 3% of the DNA that makes amino acids, proteins and babies. And the remaining 97% - well, we're pretty sure that there is some language buried there, even if we don't yet know what it says. It might say "It's all a joke", or it might say "Don't worry, be happy", or it might say "Have a nice day, lots of love, from your friendly local DNA".
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2001/04/04/133634.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience

It might also say God's Love is the more than 100%....lol ~ :)

Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 03, 2011, 03:31:23 PM


~...should have said Zero is a "placer" ~ as I understand or IMO ~

Arc
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Dennis Vogel on July 03, 2011, 03:40:03 PM

Quote
lol Denny...Zero is not a number ~  ...it's a placer! ~but so what! ~ 


But Wikipedia say zero is a number: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number))

And as a programmer I'm forced to start most of my counting from the number zero (0 thru 9 = 10 places). That's why zero is a number to me.
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: geokuhns on July 03, 2011, 03:42:36 PM
I have reviewed the video several times before and after I posted it. I cannot find anything wrong with it. I am BLOWN AWAY by how a positive message could generate so many "negative" comments.  ??? ??? ??? I could go on and on but it might only produce more negativity. Oh well. It's the 4th of July weekend and I guess some want to just blow things up.  >:(

Peace and goodwill - I hope,
George
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 03, 2011, 03:56:01 PM

You're right Denny ~ :)

"Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still ~ :)

Zero, for me, is not a quantity ~ it's more like a Space not a Volume. I get what you are saying and sure, from where you are evaluating the Zero, sure, it's got to be a number for you, and I get that.

You say potatoe and I say potatoe...

George...no one got blown up ~  :D

Happy 4th of July!

Arc

Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Foxx on July 03, 2011, 07:09:31 PM
I hate to rain on the parade but  Love of Satan equals 130%.  Babylonian gobbledygook.  Some minister in some church in the last week has given a sermon with this message and all the people were amazed.

Craig

 

  -_-'  ...Yeah, I think I'll agree with Craig this time. I don't see the spiritual usefulness in taking human expressions such as "give 101%" proves mathmatically any measure of God's love. It just seems really cheesy and drummed up nonsense that is contrived by much of the church as being cute, quaint or to some awe-inspiring...

I mean, there is nothing amazing about this sort of thing to me. At first the person took single words that added up to less than a 100% and then he combined as many words as possible to get 101% ?? So if we take out the conjunction in his final phrase God's love would only be 99% ?!Sorry...pointless.

Am I off base here? Not trying to be rude or disrespectful, just trying to be on the level with everyone here.

Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: cjwood on July 04, 2011, 02:03:46 AM
well george, for what its' worth (and it appears lately my opinion isn't worth even 2 cents  :D), i enjoyed the video.  it was fun.  i guess at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter one way or the other about this video, but, i do believe there is a language of precision, evident in all of the Grand Designer's creation, and that is interesting to me.  amazing to see His handiwork in all things.  :)

claudia
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: grapehound on July 04, 2011, 06:36:21 AM
Excellent number-play George! I think the guy that pulled it together should find himself a hobby though!
Whilst we’re about it, how about this one:

For sake of simplifying the arithmetic, let’s say a year, for this purpose has 366 days.
Well, we don’t actually work all day. On average I think the figure is 8 hours.
Can we conclude then, that we work for 1/3 of the day(24 hours)?

OK. So we really only work for 1/3 of 366 = 122.
So we work for 122 days in every year?

Not so fast!

There are 52 Saturdays and 52 Sundays to take into account. Two 52’s = 104.

We work 122 days minus 104 days. 18 days !

A couple of weeks vacation?  14.

Oh! So we only work 4 days a year?

Don’t be silly; we get those off through sickness or bank holidays.

Nobody really works at all!

It’s ALL in the MIND !


Grape, (Still taking medication.) x
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 04, 2011, 07:56:51 AM


Excellent analogy Grape!

There is a conclusion.

We work whilst we are sleeping ~ :)

Arc
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: grapehound on July 04, 2011, 10:37:00 AM
Amen
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Deborah-Leigh on July 04, 2011, 03:09:46 PM


 ~ Amen
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Stacey on July 05, 2011, 04:52:12 AM
George I enjoyed the video. The first part of it especially. The second half of it not so much. By the authors alphabetical calculator it makes it possible to come up with outrageous conclusions.

However, by Grapes analogy I have come to realize that I may be sleeping 122 days out of the year and for another 122 days I am doing something else  :)

Wait just a minute here,  ;D Not so fast there Grape!

What about the work we do while we are at home? IF you gonna include only the working hours of the work day than why not the working hours of the off time? I wish to exercise my right to include the working part of the off time too!

For every Saturday or Sunday yard work or honey do lists were handed out, those hours must be included.

How many of us have worked on our paid vacations, hmmm? Oh yeah buddy, those hours must be included in the calculation also. What about the hours of the day we think about work? The planning to work?

I have conveniently took a little time out of my working day (although I am still thinking on the job at hand) to re-calculate the calculation in a manner I will not disclose here. My figures are correct as you can clearly see by viewing the results only.  ;)

Results are from a 365 day year to be more accurate.  :)

Days of the year we work = 273.75  :o

Days of the year we rest  = 91.25  

See? Now that's better.  8)

On another thought. Who would dare to tell their wife or significant other that all the hours of the days she has spent raising children amongst all the other work she does through out the day, while the man of the house was away at work could not be considered as working hours? Not me.  :)

Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: grapehound on July 05, 2011, 07:45:28 AM
Ya got me there Stacey! But are you on the same medication?

Try this  one:
Three guys sit down in a restaurant and order the same meal @ $10 a plate.
When the $30 bill arrives, they each pay $10.
As the waiter is tilling the money, the manager tells the waiter that they are good regulars and to give them a $5 discount.
The waiter takes 5 X $1 bills and heads toward them.
He slips $2 into his pocket and tells them that they get 10% off !

He hands each guy $1.

Question is:
Each guy has paid $9 for his meal.  3 X 9 = 27 + £2 in the waiters pocket = $29.

What happened to the other dollar?

Happy Landings

Grape x
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Stacey on July 05, 2011, 08:32:37 AM
30 – 5 = (the discount) =============== 25
25 + 2 =(the 2 in the thieving waiters pocket) = 27
27 + 3 =(1 to each customer) =========== 30

There is no missing dollar. Stop using the calculator with your meds Grape!  :)
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: mharrell08 on July 05, 2011, 08:45:25 AM
Ya got me there Stacey! But are you on the same medication?

Try this  one:
Three guys sit down in a restaurant and order the same meal @ $10 a plate.
When the $30 bill arrives, they each pay $10.
As the waiter is tilling the money, the manager tells the waiter that they are good regulars and to give them a $5 discount.
The waiter takes 5 X $1 bills and heads toward them.
He slips $2 into his pocket and tells them that they get 10% off !

He hands each guy $1.

Question is:
Each guy has paid $9 for his meal.  3 X 9 = 27 + £2 in the waiters pocket = $29.

What happened to the other dollar?

Happy Landings

Grape x


The 3 guys combined total was $25 (manager told the waiter to give them $5 discount, not 10% off) , the waiter pocketed the additional $2 for himself. That equals $27 and then you add the $3 each guy received as part of his discount. From the guys perspective they received a 10% discount, when in reality, they were supposed to receive more than 15% off.

That is one sneaky waiter...


Edit: Looks like you beat me to the punch Stacey.  :)
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Craig on July 05, 2011, 09:05:09 AM
I know Stacy and Marques are right but this riddle has always gave me fits.  The thing I can't wrap my head around is this, when you give the customers back $1 then they have only paid a total of $27, when you add the $2 the waiter kept it equals $29.  When you look at it this way were is the other dollar?

Craig
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: bpenelli on July 05, 2011, 09:51:46 AM
I know Stacy and Marques are right but this riddle has always gave me fits.  The thing I can't wrap my head around is this, when you give the customers back $1 then they have only paid a total of $27, when you add the $2 the waiter kept it equals $29.  When you look at it this way were is the other dollar?

Craig

They did each pay $9 which is the $25 plus the $2 in the waiters pocket. It's the adding of the $2 in the waiter's pocket a second time that causes the confusion.
Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: Stacey on July 05, 2011, 10:00:57 AM
There are 3 separate things happening here. Forget the 2 dollars the waiter stole for a minute.

The managers discount.

He gave a 5 dollar discount and the till received 25. Done deal in Managers eyes. The customers should have got back the 5 but the waiter’s lust for the money conjured up his own deal. 25 + 5 = 30

The waiters discount.

He gave a 10 percent discount. Now we have new numbers to work with. The discount is now only 3 dollars not 5 with the new deal. The till should have received 27 and 3 back to the customer and  figuratively speaking, it’s now another done deal but wait,  there's more! 27 + 3 = 30

The waiter’s theft.
 
The 2 dollars the waiter stole cannot be used in the waiters discount at all, it is only relevant in the Managers deal. He took the 2 from the Managers deal not his own. The customer never knew about the Managers discount and actually paid only 27. The waiter did not steal from the restaurant but he did steal from the customer, 2 dollars out of the Managers 5 dollar discount.

The figures are never 27 + 2

Title: Re: THE LOVE OF GOD
Post by: grapehound on July 05, 2011, 10:46:10 AM
OMG! What have I started here!
The prize goes to the dude bro from NJ. bpenelli.
but I'm with Craig on this one.

You can have anything from the top shelf!; if I ever get around to building it.

Come on guys, there must be dozens of these out there.
Whatcha got?

Grape

PS Hey George, you started this!  ;D ;D