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got this in a email, enjoy! :)
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Q: Doctor, I've heard that cardiovascular exercise can prolong life. Is this true?
A: Heart only good for so many beats, and that it... Don't waste on exercise. Everything wear out eventually. Speeding up heart not make you live longer; it like saying you extend life of car by driving faster. Want to live longer? Take nap.
Q: Should I reduce my alcohol intake?
A: Oh no. Wine made from fruit. Brandy distilled wine, that mean they take water out of fruity bit so you get even more of goodness that way. Beer also made of grain. Bottom up!
Q: How can I calculate my body/fat ratio?
A: Well, if you have body and you have fat, your ratio one to one. If you have two body, your ratio two to one.
Q: What are some of the advantages of participating in a regular exercise program?
A: Can't think of single one, sorry. My philosophy: No pain...good!
Q: Aren't fried foods bad for you?
A: YOU NOT LISTENING! Food fried in vegetable oil. How getting more vegetable be bad?
Q : Will sit-ups help prevent me from getting a little soft around the middle?
A: Oh no! When you exercise muscle, it get bigger. You should only be doing sit-up if you want bigger stomach.
Q: Is chocolate bad for me?
A: You crazy?!? HEL-LO-O!! Cocoa bean! Another vegetable! It best feel-good food around!
Q: Is swimming good for your figure?
A: If swimming good for figure, explain whale to me.
Q: Is getting in shape important for my lifestyle?
A: Hey! 'Round' is shape!
Well... I hope this cleared up misconceptions you may had about food and diets.
And remember:
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!!"
AND.....
For those of you who watch what you eat, here's the final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting nutritional studies.
1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans...
5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
CONCLUSION:
Eat and drink what you like.
Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Finally, a thread on the Forum about food and health matters that I agree with.
Like Jesus said to His disciples when they asked Him about eating with unwashed hands, " It goes in one end and out the other." Matt 15:17 and Mark 7:19 (Translated from the original Greek by JFK. ;D)
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*smiles* good stuff...the medicine....is laughter!
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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!!"
Stacey, that's the best statement I have ever seen you make on this forum ;D
That sounds as powerful and as sound a teaching as Ray's papers 8)Just jokingbefore you guys accuse me of blasphemy. :-[
Don't worry, be happy. That's the second thread that has made me laugh out this week and we know that laughter is the best medicine, right :D
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I didn't write any of it JohnChris, received it as it is posted here, in a email. :)
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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!!"
Looking at how Ray suffered and how many people suffer with cancers, diabetes and all sorts of debilitating metabolic diseases I'd bet that most of them if they could do it over would of taken much better care of their temples when they were younger. Sow to the wind and reap the whirlwind. That is applicable to the physical as well as the spiritual. When your younger you can get away with bad nutrition but as you get older for most of us it catches up with you.
God has indeed predetermined your health through his foreknowledge and to that their is no argument. But because I don't know the future I do the very best that I can to exercise, eat right, do various supplements, ect. It is those very things that I do to take care of myself that God uses to give me good health. For those that are sick and tired of being sick and tired it can usually be turned around but there is a price to pay for it. How much do you want it? I realise that this is a playful and fun email and not meant to be real serious but there are some serious ramifications, poor health and early deaths for folks who really pay zero attention to what they stick in their pie holes.
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You're right it is just for fun but you make some good points there Arion.
I recently watched a video, Fat sick and nearly dead. It has inspired me to get on that band wagon because I am fat sick and very disgusted with my current health situation. I'm at 270lbs and feel and look like a blimp. I have high blood pressure and am on the highest dose of pill according to my doctor. It's time to make a change, God willing, and it all starts November 20th, right before Thanksgiving.
Here is a link to the trailer to Fat sick and nearly dead or if anyone cares to see the whole film its free on hulu and netflix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3vEXy_EwU
Really I just posted the email for JFK, knew he might appreciate it. ;D
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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!!"
stacy, one time i was reading the obituaries in our local paper and one contained a statement very similar to the one you posted above. i remember reading it and laughing because i had never read anything so funny in an obit before. no matter if we follow after wisdom in taking care of our bodies as the temple of the Holy Spirit, or if we follow after our carnal desires and pay for it later in life, we will all go to the grave, unless we are alive when Christ returns. and yes of course it would be best to do what we can to feed our "pie holes" only what is healthy and of nutritional value. but sometimes, life gets in the way, and we lapse. His will be done in all things.
thanks for posting it stacey.
claudia
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I thank God for all food nuts and fanatics. They are a constant source of humor and laughter to me. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They think if they get a handful of wild hickory nuts mixed in with a few blueberries, put this in a glass of fish oil and drink it down, then they will have physical health. Unless of course they enjoy the concoction. Any physical pleasure is bad. They must suffer if the "health" food is to work properly.
I could make millions if I went on the internet, called myself Dr. JFK, and sold health nuts a jar of Kentucky mud, and told them this would cure everything if they ate it every day. For best results, I could sell them a gallon of Kentucky mud, tell them to strip naked and smear the mud all over their body, and run down a street shouting A Rebel Yell. I would make millions.
The greatest humor is provided by those few who know God is sovereign in all things. That only God calls those who He wants to save, when He wants to save them. And yet, some of them believe that they can control their physical health by what they eat, when they want to eat. Meat, no meat. Some meat, no red meat. Eat fat, but no bread and potatos. And of course cows milk is poison along with salt and the greatest Satanic substance of all time-----white sugar.
Like I said, a constant source of humor. ;D
Jesus was sickly and had illnesses his entire physical life. I guess if he ate bugs like His cousin John the Baptist He would have been healthy. Unless of course, Jesus could only have been as intelligent as all the modern food fanatics. Jesus could have been healthy if He ate the right foods. 8)
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You're right it is just for fun but you make some good points there Arion.
I recently watched a video, Fat sick and nearly dead. It has inspired me to get on that band wagon because I am fat sick and very disgusted with my current health situation. I'm at 270lbs and feel and look like a blimp. I have high blood pressure and am on the highest dose of pill according to my doctor. It's time to make a change, God willing, and it all starts November 20th, right before Thanksgiving.
Here is a link to the trailer to Fat sick and nearly dead or if anyone cares to see the whole film its free on hulu and netflix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3vEXy_EwU
Really I just posted the email for JFK, knew he might appreciate it. ;D
Thanks Stacey, I appreciated it greatly.
But Stacey, you're going to start a diet two days before Thanksgiving? ??? ??? ???
I thought better of you than that. Dr. JFK's advice is to start the diet (if that is where you're led) the Friday after Thanksgiving. My advice is to eat a turkey leg and two slabs of pumpkin pie on Thanksgiving in order to give you the strength to endure the diet.
Best wishes on your health my friend. Take care. John
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The greatest humor is provided by those few who know God is sovereign in all things. That only God calls those who He wants to save, when He wants to save them. And yet, some of them believe that they can control their physical health by what they eat, when they want to eat. Meat, no meat. Some meat, no red meat. Eat fat, but no bread and potatos. And of course cows milk is poison along with salt and the greatest Satanic substance of all time-----white sugar.
Like I said, a constant source of humor. ;D
Jesus was sickly and had illnesses his entire physical life. I guess if he ate bugs like His cousin John the Baptist He would have been healthy. Unless of course, Jesus could only have been as intelligent as all the modern food fanatics. Jesus could have been healthy if He ate the right foods. 8)
JFK,
how do you see Ray having to eat very specific things, (plus all medicine pills) so he could be healthier and having lived a few more years and having blessed us all? Was he "controlling his physical health"?
God bless,
Levy
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Guys, Guys,
C'mon, this thread was originally a joke and it's posted under Off Topic Discussions.
Why are some of us getting so scholarly and serious? If we want to go into serious discussion of diet and Ray, maybe we should start a new thread that probably would introduce more contributions. Let's not derail the humor of the thread ;D 8)
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Guys, Guys,
C'mon, this thread was originally a joke and it's posted under Off Topic Discussions.
Why are some of us getting so scholarly and serious? If we want to go into serious discussion of diet and Ray, maybe we should start a new thread that probably would introduce more contributions. Let's not derail the humor of the thread ;D 8)
Ditto.
The first bit was a bit of fun with as much to laugh AT that 'wisdom' as with it. The second bit has a seed of truth in it, even though it reached a humorous and absurd conclusion. Absurd conclusions shouldn't be taken seriously. Let's not burden one another.
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The greatest humor is provided by those few who know God is sovereign in all things. That only God calls those who He wants to save, when He wants to save them. And yet, some of them believe that they can control their physical health by what they eat, when they want to eat. Meat, no meat. Some meat, no red meat. Eat fat, but no bread and potatos. And of course cows milk is poison along with salt and the greatest Satanic substance of all time-----white sugar.
Like I said, a constant source of humor. ;D
Jesus was sickly and had illnesses his entire physical life. I guess if he ate bugs like His cousin John the Baptist He would have been healthy. Unless of course, Jesus could only have been as intelligent as all the modern food fanatics. Jesus could have been healthy if He ate the right foods. 8)
JFK,
how do you see Ray having to eat very specific things, (plus all medicine pills) so he could be healthier and having lived a few more years and having blessed us all? Was he "controlling his physical health"?
God bless,
Levy
The last time I spoke with Ray was on the telephone in August 2011. We discussed many things.
One topic we discussed was health foods and supplements. I told Ray I totally disagreed with him on all health matters, and I thought Dr. Steger was completely in error. We talked back and forth on this. We ended our discussion in peace and were in full agreement on this scripture in Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
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The greatest humor is provided by those few who know God is sovereign in all things. That only God calls those who He wants to save, when He wants to save them. And yet, some of them believe that they can control their physical health by what they eat, when they want to eat. Meat, no meat. Some meat, no red meat. Eat fat, but no bread and potatos. And of course cows milk is poison along with salt and the greatest Satanic substance of all time-----white sugar.
Like I said, a constant source of humor. ;D
Jesus was sickly and had illnesses his entire physical life. I guess if he ate bugs like His cousin John the Baptist He would have been healthy. Unless of course, Jesus could only have been as intelligent as all the modern food fanatics. Jesus could have been healthy if He ate the right foods. 8)
JFK,
how do you see Ray having to eat very specific things, (plus all medicine pills) so he could be healthier and having lived a few more years and having blessed us all? Was he "controlling his physical health"?
God bless,
Levy
The last time I spoke with Ray was on the telephone in August 2011. We discussed many things.
One topic we discussed was health foods and supplements. I told Ray I totally disagreed with him on all health matters, and I thought Dr. Steger was completely in error. We talked back and forth on this. We ended our discussion in peace and were in full agreement on this scripture in Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
Hello JFK, guys,
sorry for the unnecessary burden today. Still much to learn and understand in all matters, specially this one.
God bless you all and have an amazing week,
Levy
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the worst thing you can do for your body is to be under too much stress. So write a little note and put it on your mirror Jesus is in control of the day and people. read often
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Hi Stacey,
I just had to share your original post on this thread on my FB page...Hilarious! I also read your post regarding your goal to get in better shape and thought I might share my personal story as an encouragement for you:
I am a 63 year old male. As you can tell by my member ID, Jack Lalanne is a personal hero of mine as he wonderfully demonstrated that we can be/get fit at any age.
My story:
At 58 I was over-weight at 5'7" 216 lbs. On blood pressure meds (Ziac) My blood sugar ran between 275-350 daily and my A1C was 10+ When the Dr told me I was diabetic, I thought: "OK, no problem, they have medicine for that. I set about losing some of my weight, but did nothing else regarding exercise or dietarywise to control my diabetes or hypertension. In October of 2007 I met my wife. She was four years widowed. She told me about her former husband. He became diabetic, but like myself did nothing about it other than medication. In time he got to the point where he had to begin insulin shots. He lost his legs to the disease. He lost his vision to the disease. His kidneys shut down and he had to begin dialysis. He lost control of his bowels as a complication of diabetes. If you're thinking about now that it was a: "Here's your sign" "Come to Jesus" moment for me, you've pretty much got the picture. I owe my life to her. To say that conversation changed my life is not an exaggeration. I have not been on meds for either condition for two years now, have lost over 70lbs and am in the best shape I've been in my life. I'm excited about my progress as I was told by some "In the know" not to expect too much muscle gain at my age due to the "natural" depletion of HGH in my system. I didn't listen for one second, but set out to unleash my potential. I am a work in progress, always will be (in many ways) but still interested in cutting, sculpting, toning and bulking. I have another 5lbs to lose to reach my weight-loss goals, but wouldn't mind gaining a little if I can do it in the right places. The one message I would like to leave with you is: Don't listen to anyone who says you can't do it...If I can, you can.
BTW, If you are interested, I can tell you what permanent lifestyle-changes (I'm sure you already realize that simply "dieting" doesn't work) that I made to reach this point let me know and I will be happy to share and encourage any way I can. Peace, Russ
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Hey Russ, nice to meet you! I really enjoyed your story and find it very encouraging. Congratulations on your success of getting in great physical condition and taking on a life style change for healthier living.
I don't know much about Jack Lalanne so I had to Google him and wow, what a life he lived. From just the wiki page on him it's easy to tell he was a ball of fire! One of the quotes mentioned there,
He also dismissed warmups, calling them "shtick" and "something else to sell": "15 minutes to warm up? Does a lion warm up when he's hungry? 'Uh oh, here comes an antelope. Better warm up.' No! He just goes out there and eats the sucker."
that probably sums up very well how he lived on the daily basis; get up and go at it, the it being life.
For clarification, I am a 45 year old male. I have not had a "come to Jesus" moment exactly but definitely feel the "push" to make a serious adjustment in my health and fitness. I think just talking about it here is encouragement and induces to some degree a sense of accountability. Ive already mentioned my starting weight, my height is 5'10, so yeah I have a shape, the round kind, :) but with intentions of changing that.
I'm gonna take measurements and pictures :o along the way to track and record my progress. I promise not to post any bare skinned side photo's here mods, lol!
Thanks to everyone that has replied and if anyone has a success story to share, please post or PM.
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Hi Stacey,
Nice to meet you as well. I should have mentioned the taking pictures and measurements...I have before and afters on my fb page and while perhaps is a little narcissistic(sp), it is a great way to stay motivated and receive encouragement. And anything that helps us stay motivated is a plus.
Yes Jack Lalanne was a fascinating guy. I think the History Channel has an hour show about him on one of their links and I would think there are probably a number of YouTube vids as well.
Getting fit really is its own reward. When I pick up 75lbs now to do my kneeling bench rows and think that I used to carry at least that much extra around 24/7 it is amazing to think about. No wonder we feel so much better and have high energy levels when we shed the extra weight. I say Unleash your potential! Stay in touch and let me know how things are going. My PM addy is: hecame4u2@facebook.com
Kind Regards,
Russ
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I'm gonna take measurements and pictures :o along the way to track and record my progress. I promise not to post any bare skinned side photo's here mods, lol!
If you can blank out the naughty bits, it should be OK. ;D
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I love talking nutrition. I'm a hobbyist at this point. My daughter is raw vegan (not pushy about it at all) and now I'm looking into enzymes (which we lack as we age and I'm turning 48 soon) and how they are absolutely essential to good health.
Now I'm on this kick of trying to incorporate more enzymes in the form of fruits and raw vegies into my diet. It is amazing to not only see, but experience the difference in the way your body looks and functions when you're eating more raw fruits and vegies. My favorite fruit just happens to be . . .
kiwi. ;)
Enzymes 101:
Enzymes are things that God put in fruits and vegies. Enzymes break down the food it is in and this makes digesting it (and meats and dairy) easier on our bodies
Anything containing enzymes and heated above 118 degrees is considered dead food since the vitamins and enzymes (that God put in the foods to break down its flesh to something more easily digestible) were cooked out if it. (Nutritious as thorns and thistles, come to think of it.) For instance, nuts. Nuts are always roasted when you want to really bring out their flavor, but you can go into convulsions if you don't chew them (add enough saliva) enough before you swallow them. Happened to my father in his 20s.
When we're young our bodies produced enzymes in quantities we need to break down our food (if our bodies were in proper working order); not so as we age -- when we age we manufacture less enzymes.
And I cringe when I think of how most of my meals were all cooked, so obviously I wasn't getting the nutrients I needed. That's where the term "overfed and undernourished" comes from. I was basically starving my body (not intentionally) potentially leaving me vulnerable to all kinds of diseases.
Still, others aren't interested in eating healthy and I understand that too. I'm not judging. And I'm not saying a person has to be vegan to be healthy. Lord knows I love a good prime rib steak (and I'm not apologizing for it) with a little dollop of horse radish on the ssssiiiiiide.
Dinner tonite: raw smoothie of soaked cashews, spinach, and sliced banana and berries (with a side of egg salad). Surprisingly I didn't have to choke down the smoothie--though it didn't help that it's soooo green. I don't know why I don't like green food. It's actually a very nice color. I guess I don't like the way it looks at the end of my fork or in my smoothie. I tend to think it should stay right where it came from -- out in a meadow somewhere where Bambi and Thumper can enjoy it. ;-D
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I'm a hobbyist in nutrition at this point, as well. (since a couple moths ago I got a little bit more informed... so now I have better idea of how little do I know)
A couple fruits and more raw veggies is a key factor for people at all ages. If this would be an habit for the majority, then not many would complain, I think it also has to do with the culture of the place. So, I guess that each should build his own food culture :)
mm, my favorite fruit is,, mamey
Now days, we have to be a little more aware of food habits because there is so much food out there that is not really food at all. I bet you can't even compare the types of foods that are on the market today with the type of foods on Jesus times. On the other side, even when I see people don't caring at all, I stay quiet, because I am not in control nor responsible of them and because I still make mistakes.
Gina, I enjoyed your post. I heard this recipe the other day that I thought it was a cool one (I haven't try it yet): ''Lettuce Taco'' : Rather than using a 'tortilla' you put the beef on the lettuce (you can get some red lettuce), then you roll the lettuce, grab it--enjoy it... It might sounds silly, however, it's a good food combination since it helps digestion. I heard some taco places are already doing it.
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Well as a kiwi I thought I should reply about Gina's favourite fruit kiwi. Well then as a kiwi I don't actually like kiwi but I do like kiwi's even though they don't fly but they do live in every house down the street. Confused - I am. Of course kiwi here refers to the fruit, a bird and people that live here in New Zealand. My avatar picture is of a rather starved kiwi bird or is it me. Don't know if you have tried the Gold kiwifruit Gina but I prefer it over the green. A number of years ago I worked in a kiwifruit packing shed which may explain why I am not that keen on them. Bit like my brother who used to be quite a good chef but wouldn't cook for himself, after cooking fine cuisine he would have a hamburger from a fastfood place.
On the serious side of eating for me I eat more healthy now that I used to and generally feel a lot better now than I used to. Have always eaten a balanced diet but now is more towards healthy food as makes me feel better and have more energy. But as I see it there is a cause for our choices and we get to the point when we know we need to make some changes in our food choices. Well that's my view on it and seems to work for me and keep me from judging others. It's all God's will but when He created the cheese burger the Lord was well pleased and so was this kiwi. ;D
God bless to one and all
Rhys 8)
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Gina, I enjoyed your post. I heard this recipe the other day that I thought it was a cool one (I haven't try it yet): ''Lettuce Taco'' : Rather than using a 'tortilla' you put the beef on the lettuce (you can get some red lettuce), then you roll the lettuce, grab it--enjoy it... It might sounds silly, however, it's a good food combination since it helps digestion. I heard some taco places are already doing it.
Thanks, Moises. :) That recipe is famous at PF Chang's (restaurant). They call them lettuce wraps. Yummy. Every now and then I make wraps: slices of turkey wrapped around pepperjack cheese. Yummy-er.
That was a fun read Rhys. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Two in the year of our Lord - my first kiwi right here in California. Good shtuff. But boy are they funny looking? God chuckled when He made the kiwi. No, really!
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Thanks, Moises. :) That recipe is famous at PF Chang's (restaurant). They call them lettuce wraps. Yummy. Every now and then I make wraps: slices of turkey wrapped around pepperjack cheese. Yummy-er.
I love turkey and I like lettuce. It's very probably that I surely would enjoy wraps.. plus China's food is one of my favorites.