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=> General Discussions => Topic started by: rick on September 10, 2014, 09:38:01 PM
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Something is horribly wrong with this translation from the E.S.V. bible.
Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"
Is this translation deliberate or a mistake ? ::)
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Something is horribly wrong with this translation from the E.S.V. bible.
Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"
Is this translation deliberate or a mistake ? ::)
Seem's legit ;)
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Hi Rick,
I think it is better understood as "has no forgiveness in the coming age and is in danger of the 'judgment' " e.g. the final judgment or evaluation.
I believe Ray Smith commented on this.
Indiana bob
Something is horribly wrong with this translation from the E.S.V. bible.
Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"
Is this translation deliberate or a mistake ? ::)
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Hello Bob,
Thanks for your reply to this thread, the wording of this scripture is leading the reader to believe that there is a sin that will never be forgiven which is outright wrong.
Christendom believes that some people will get saved while the rest go to eternal damnation.
We here at B.T. understand about the age/ ages and what the white throne judgement is about.
But what about those who know not the things we know here. The wording of this scripture is so deceiving its pathetic.
You know, if just one person does not get saved , then Jesus failed. But we know Jesus does not fail, Jesus is very good at what He does, and what He does is save.
Hello Alex,
I disagree with your statement ( seem’s legit ) because to lead anyone to believe they can commit a sin that will never be forgiven is a lie straight from the devil.
Jesus is savior of the whole world. ;)
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Every translation of the Scriptures contain errors, some more so than others. It takes study to find the errors. As the Scriptures say, Line upon line, line upon line, precept upon precept, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little.
Below is an email from Ray that discusses this unpardonable sin issue. Ray discusses the difference in the words not and never. We all need to read words carefully and study by the use of concordances and other aids how the words in the original scriptural languages are translated into our own languages.
http://bible-truths.com/email16.htm#unpardonable
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Is this translation deliberate or a mistake ? ::)
Its wicked Rick... this one is slightly more accurate or less twisted
Mar 3:29 but whoever may speak evil in regard to the Holy Spirit hath not forgiveness--to the age, but is in danger of age-during judgment;'
Or no forgiveness In this fleshly/earthly life, it will be rectified however at the white throne
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One thing is for certain, nothing happens in life that was not God’s intention, even the adding or subtraction of His word.
The wonderful thing for this sinner to know is that God has not left me or anyone else without hope, even those who have added or subtracted from His word.
Everything is done through an exceedingly weak heart and every sin has already been forgiven, some are learning repentance now all others will at a later time.
Its good to have some truth in my life as life makes sense to me now in a way the lie could not. :)
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From the ESV site:
The words and phrases themselves grow out of the Tyndale-King James legacy, and most recently out of the RSV, with the 1971 RSV text providing the starting point for our work.
As a rule, anytime you see the word "standard" in the name of a bible translation, it will be a 'variation' continuing the Tyndale-King James legacy.
As to 'why' they do this?
http://bible-truths.com/email2.htm#aion for a 'bible-scholarship (or lack thereof)' reason, and the whole of the LoF series for a spiritual reason.