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Title: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on May 30, 2015, 03:58:13 AM
Hi everyone,
I am new here and felt like God was leading me to this Forum on Bibletruths.com i finally figured out how to post a question on here, after trying to find the new topic button. :/ Anyways, my prayer request is, that anyone reading this would pray for me because i am being very much persecuted in my neighboorhood. There is a car that is making loud engine noise and steering his motor really loud and keeps me up all night. I have lost sleep and almost a sudden fear over this. I know this does not surprise me. I am a believer and i know very well that i am a target to this persecuter. My heart is almost failing me from the terrifying noise. Not to mention as well living next to a antichrist heathen that seems to be partnering with the persecuter driving the car. This has been going on for 4 months. I have been kicked out of my room from this situation. :( i am a weaker vessel and only God knows what i am going through. So, please pray as i feel my heart failing me of fear. Thanks.

God Bless.

Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on May 30, 2015, 04:42:20 AM
Hi, Karen

Do you think you're going to be physically harmed by your persecutors and can you call the police?

Is it okay with you if I ask why you were kicked out of your room and by whom?
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on May 30, 2015, 05:15:10 PM
HI,

I have had difficulty breathing and heart rate slowing down. I haven't called the police but i might have to go to the sheriffs' office and file a report on this annonymously. If it does keep going on.

Thanks for replying to my post. You seem caring, and hopefully you prayed for me!
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Joel on May 30, 2015, 07:07:28 PM
Hi Karen,
I pray that GOD will provide a peaceful solution to your problem.
Some places have a noise ordinance so you can call say 10 PM or after and file a report, you may want to try that.

Joel
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on May 30, 2015, 10:28:34 PM
Thank you so much Joel! God bless you.

Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: repottinger on May 31, 2015, 12:38:57 AM
Welcome to the forum, Karen; I hope that the forum (and the site) proves to be as much of a blessing to you as it has to me in the short time that I’ve been a member. I’ll be sure to pray for you as you deal with the troubling situations of the excess noise and unkindness of others; I agree with what Gina and Joel said regarding your contacting the legal authorities (or maybe the management of your apartment):

13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. 8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
(Romans 13:1-8, AKJV)

Regarding your interactions with your neighbors and other people:

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
(Matthew 5:10-12, AKJV)

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.
(John 15: 18-21, AKJV)

Your brother in Christ,
Randy
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on May 31, 2015, 03:40:25 AM
Thanks so much Randy! I thank God for his Holy word that is able to guide us.!
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Mike Gagne on May 31, 2015, 11:35:25 AM
Hi Karen
This is what I pray all the time

Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Mat 6:11  Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12  And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Mat 6:13  And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Mat 6:14  For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15  But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

May God Bless you with peace in this matter in Jesus name.  Have a wonderful day Karen.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: repottinger on May 31, 2015, 06:58:30 PM
You're very welcome, Karen; I agree, and I thank God, too!
Randy
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: John from Kentucky on June 01, 2015, 03:32:40 PM
Hi Karen,

I have a pair of BOSE headphones.  When I want to tune any noise out, I put them on and there is peaceful silence.

BOSE headphones can be a little expensive.  You may want to try an inexpensive brand to see if they will work as well.

Of course, the least expensive option would be to buy some ear plugs.  Many workers in a high noise environment use them to protect their hearing.  There are different quality types of ear plugs.  Shop around and you can find some that will eliminate the outside noise.

Ear plugs may be an inexpensive way to take care of the noise problem and give you a quiet night's sleep. 

John
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on June 01, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
John, I have been putting cotton in my ears every night! Cotton does not seem to elimainate the noise...
Your right, i may buy some ear plugs instead. :)
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Mike Gagne on June 01, 2015, 11:34:12 PM
John, where is Karen to go where there is no heathen?

Karen maybe Jesus has you there because he's doing a work in you?

Count it all joy!

What did LRay say?  Getting saved will be the hardest thing you will ever do!  Are you in the fire Karen?

1Co 3:11  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13  Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14  If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

1Pe 1:7  That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ

Thats why this is my prayer...

Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Mat 6:11  Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12  And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Mat 6:13  And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

That prayer covers everything I need. 

In Christ Mike
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 12:56:14 PM
HI,

I have had difficulty breathing and heart rate slowing down. I haven't called the police but i might have to go to the sheriffs' office and file a report on this annonymously. If it does keep going on.

Thanks for replying to my post. You seem caring, and hopefully you prayed for me!

The other thing you could do is take your cell phone (since everyone has one these days, especially 22 year olds), and record them with the camera phone  since you're already awake anyway, and show that evidence to the sheriff when you go down to file the report.  (Can you file an anonymous police report if you physically show up at the police department?)  I'm sure they're going to ask you all kinds of questions, like, how do you know this person and what was the cause of them doing this.  If I were you, though, I probably wouldn't bring up the fact that you think they're "heathens" and that you're being "persecuted" by the "antichrist" for living Godly in Christ and all of that.  Their reaction might be one of disbelief. 

I'm surprised this has been going on for four solid months and no one else has bothered to call the cops.  To be honest, Karen, the whole thing sounds pretty bizarre but I don't have all the details or the facts.

Then again, I actually knew a grown man in his 50's who got his pride hurt by his next door neighbors over something very petty.  So this is what he did:  he got out his push lawn mower and placed it on his lawn in between his driveway and the window of his neighbor's house.  Then he would turn it on (and you know how loud and smelly those things are) and walk from it entirely and go inside of his house and leave it there with its motor running until the gas ran out of it.  The height of immaturity.

Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Dennis Vogel on June 02, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
Per John's comments. They are called Noise Cancelling Headphones. Some not very expensive. Read the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_7?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=noise+cancelling+headphones&sprefix=noise+cancelling+headphones%2Caps%2C146 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_7?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=noise+cancelling+headphones&sprefix=noise+cancelling+headphones%2Caps%2C146)
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 03:39:14 PM
I have a noise canceller.  It's called .... the cops and they're free.  Sort of.  ;D  What are you supposed to do if you're wearing noise cancellers and you don't hear your smoke or carbon monoxide detector going off inside your place? 
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: friendofJC on June 02, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
I turn on a fan to create "white noise" which helps cancel out barking dogs and cars driving by.  Also, try playing "soft" music in the back round such as the sound of waves crashing into shore or worship music.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on June 02, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
Gina, i don't have a cell phone, sadly. It's so strange because there are other people living in the nighbourhood and i'm the only one they are doing this to. Out of like so many houses. Wow, a surprise? No. But i am sure this person is keeping eveyone awake with the noise. They have showed me many ways that they are doing this to me only. i am a target to this person. On Febuary of this year i started hearing radiation energy coming from a car near our home. I ignored it thinking they would just go away. They would do it every night it was like they wanted to let me know. On March they started doing it during the day, Radiation energy movements using their car engine. I would get so dizzy. I thought it was energy weapons they were using on me. I would move to the guest room they would drive their car toward that room, then i would go to the living room they would drive their car toward the living room etc.... I could not escape the noise,and radiation they were sourrounding our house. How did they know what room i was moving to in my home?? It is frightening.

I do not know as of today who this is. I still hear their car except they turn up their car engine so loud to scare me. Can't explain the pain of this more but, the neighbours next to our house know we are targets to this and they don't care. No one has called the police after knowing just what is going on. ... I am even too afraid to call the police because they may do something dangerous. They seem to follow me everywhere i go as well. So if i file a report they may know i am at the sheriffs office.

Dennis: They are really expensive! But, well i'll have to just buy some ear plugs for now.!
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 06:22:56 PM
Radiation movements using their car engine?  Wow, I have never heard of such a thing.  Using energy weapons on you?  I see.

Welp!  Gotta go now.......................
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 06:25:28 PM
p.s.  I will still pray for you, Karen.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on June 02, 2015, 06:54:55 PM
Thank you. I appreciate everybody's prayers on here! :)
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 06:56:13 PM
You're welcome, hon.  :)
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 07:42:58 PM
Karen, I have a question:  were you under any sort of stress before this all started?  I don't want to sound like I don't believe you're experiencing something, but I'm not ready to believe that someone "out there" is trying to harm you with radiation or weapons.  If someone was trying to harm you, your neighbors would not be so uncaring, especially since it could harm them too, couldn't it?  But they're not worried at all.  And that tells me your perception is off -- maybe because you're suffering from exhaustion from not sleeping.  Have you taken any medications in the recent past?  Are you under the care of a doctor or anything?  If so, you might want to look up the contraindications of the medication just to make sure that you're taking them in the proper dosage and not mixing them with things like alcohol or other drugs or whatever.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on June 02, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
No, i have not been stressed before this situation. I am not surprised Gina, and it should not surprise you either seeing that we are fighting a spiritual battle. Satan is working in the lives of his people.. I believe demon possesion is rampant amongst the unsaved. Christ warned us we would have enemies.

I get some sleep. I don't take any medication. I don't know if the neighbours are worried in their hearts. Only God knows.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: lilitalienboi16 on June 02, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
No, i have not been stressed before this situation. I am not surprised Gina, and it should not surprise you either seeing that we are fighting a spiritual battle. Satan is working in the lives of his people.. I believe demon possesion is rampant amongst the unsaved. Christ warned us we would have enemies.

I get some sleep. I don't take any medication. I don't know if the neighbours are worried in their hearts. Only God knows.

Hi Karen,

Welcome to the forums. Have you read through Ray's material on the home page? The reason I ask is because of how you speak of "unsaved."

No one is saved in their lifetime and those that have fallen asleep and run the race faithfully still await their change to come. Salvation is a lifelong process for a chosen few. For the vast majority of humanity this will occur in the next age; Nevertheless, no one is yet "saved."

God bless,
Alex
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 09:57:49 PM
No, i have not been stressed before this situation. I am not surprised Gina, and it should not surprise you either seeing that we are fighting a spiritual battle. Satan is working in the lives of his people.. I believe demon possesion is rampant amongst the unsaved. Christ warned us we would have enemies.

I get some sleep. I don't take any medication. I don't know if the neighbours are worried in their hearts. Only God knows.

You can say that again, Karen.  Satan certainly is.  I'm sorry but I had to ask.  It was either that, or an eight-year-old fooling around on his parents' computer.  :-)
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 09:59:18 PM
I only mean that people give Satan WAY too much credit.  As Ray said, evil's really stupid.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: gk@rivervalley on June 02, 2015, 10:15:43 PM
"For the vast majority of humanity this will occur in the next age;"--alex

What next age?

When?

How long?

Where?

Why?

Isn't this 'age' enough to prove the depravity of the human mind and heart?
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
"For the vast majority of humanity this will occur in the next age;"--alex

What next age?

When?

How long?

Where?

Why?

Isn't this 'age' enough to prove the depravity of the human mind and heart?

ha!  For the elect few, yes!  But the depraved?  Not so much.  They need a lot more time.  And then once they've been convinced, they have to still be transformed.  Hello?  For the seriously depraved, this could take eons upon eons.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 02, 2015, 10:25:08 PM
.... kinda like this thread is going to wind up going on for ... eons and eons....  I just know it!
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: lilitalienboi16 on June 02, 2015, 10:48:57 PM
"For the vast majority of humanity this will occur in the next age;"--alex

What next age?

When?

How long?

Where?

Why?

Isn't this 'age' enough to prove the depravity of the human mind and heart?

Hi GK,

You're asking me to answer all of these questions? That's essentially what bible-truths home page is for. Ray did a very good job explaining God's plan for the salvation of all creation.

God is only saving a very few in this age whom He will use in the next age to judge the world and teach its inhabitants righteousness.

The scriptures never specify how long any 'Aion' lasts, only that it is a period of time that begins and ends. Your life can be looked at as an Aion.

Judgement will occur on this earth after the resurrection.

Why you ask. That's interesting. The only answer I can give you is because this is God's plan and His plan is perfect. He declares by the prophet Isaiah that His work is strange and that His ways are higher than ours as the heavens are to the earth. His thoughts are not our thoughts.

Proving the depravity of the human mind isn't enough to complete the process of transforming man into the image of God but its definitely one of the pieces along the way in this process.

God bless,
Alex
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: lilitalienboi16 on June 02, 2015, 11:01:05 PM
Here is a chart you might find helpful which ray put together.

------------------------------------------------------------ http://bible-truths.com/hagee1.htm
CONCORDANT VERSION vs. ROTHERHAM (1896)

BEFORE the aions:

I Cor. 2:7--

... before the eons ...

... before the ages...

God MAKES the aions

Heb. 1:2--

... makes the eons.

... made the ages.

PAST aions:

Col. 1:26--

... hid from eons...

... from the ages ...

PRESENT aion:

Gal. 1:4---

... the present wicked eon ...

... present age ... an evil one

END of present aion:

Mat. 24:3--

... conclusion of the eon ...

... conclusion of the age...

The NEXT aion:

Lk. 18;30--

... the eon to come ...

... age that is coming ...

FUTURE aions:

Eph. 2:7--

... the oncoming eons ...

... ages that should come ...

CONTRASTING aions:

Eph. 3:21--

... the eon of the eons...

... age of the ages ...

ENDS of the aions:

I Cor.10:11-

... the consummations of the eons ...

... the ends of the ages ...

-------------------------------------------------

Now the above list is by no means an exhaustive one but perhaps it will help you get a better sense of the eoans in scripture as inspired by God. You can read that whole paper for a much more in depth discussion on this subject if you'd like.

God bless,
Alex
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: lilitalienboi16 on June 02, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
From the same article I linked here are rays own words on the topic.

----------------------------------------------------------------- http://bible-truths.com/hagee1.htm

"See its simplicity: There was a time before God made any eons (I Cor. 2:7). Then God made the eons (Heb. 1:2). There were eons in the past (Col 1:26). We are living in this present wicked eon (Gal. 1:4). Satan is the god of this eon (II Cor. 4:4). Christ, not Satan, will reign a thousand years in the next eon (Lk 1:33). The thousand years will come to an end (Rev. 20:3). Christ will reign in the eon that follows the thousand years (Rev. 22:5 and Lk. 1:33). Hence, He reigns for the "eons" (the next two) "of the eons" (all others).

Then the last eon comes to an end (I Cor. 10:11). Christ ceases to reign after the eons come to an end (I Cor. 15:24:28) because He turns over the Kingdom to God His Father and God becomes "all in all." The eons end, but that which is of the Kingdom continues (Lk 1:33 & Isa. 9:7). We all continue "living" after the eons because, just like God, we will then all have been given immortality."

----------------------------------------------------------------

God bless,
Alex
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Karen_7 on June 06, 2015, 06:31:56 AM
Yeah, thanks for clarifying that Alex.Your a blessing!
And
May, God bless you!

I still have yet to study on Rays' website. What grand truths we have been given! Truly, we should be very thankful. Because not many actually know of this website, in the church But well, God will lead his people that care enough to seek his truths! As he did with me. And you, And so many others.
Title: Re: Persecution
Post by: Gina on June 06, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
Yeah, thanks for clarifying that Alex.Your a blessing!
And
May, God bless you!

I still have yet to study on Rays' website. What grand truths we have been given! Truly, we should be very thankful. Because not many actually know of this website, in the church But well, God will lead his people that care enough to seek his truths! As he did with me. And you, And so many others.

When you study this site, you will be very blessed. :)