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Title: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 26, 2015, 03:58:35 PM
Ray said, salt and light don't argue or make noise.  haha!  It's true.

Well, Kat brought out a great topic about stars and the numbers of them and how many people have lived, and I think that is fascinating stuff!  I hope we can stay on topic here.  I was going to ask Kat to do a search about salt and what it does because she always finds the most fascinating facts and interesting things.

Matt 5:13 "You are the salt of the earth

I've heard here and there a little of what salt does.  It doesn't really add flavor to food at all.  But it does bring out flavors as well as bring them together, that is what one chef said. 

(I love salt by the way.)  I'm interested in the facts about salt.  Anybody have any other than those that Ray mentioned?
 
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Dave in Tenn on September 26, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Salt makes you thirsty too.

Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 26, 2015, 10:38:50 PM
Thirsty for righteousness.  Great point! 
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 26, 2015, 11:14:38 PM
Salt of the earth

1. A person or group considered as embodying simplicity and moral integrity.

2. Archaic A person or group considered the best or most worthy part of society.

Source:  http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/salt+of+the+earth

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Colossians 4:6 Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt,

Luke 14:34  Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? 

Hebrews 6:4-6  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.

Mark 9:49-50 "For everyone will be salted with fire. "Salt is good; but if the salt becomes unsalty, with what will you make it salty again? Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with one another."

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10.  Before Biblical Judaism ceased to exist, salt was mixed with animal sacrifices. This originated from Moses in Leviticus 2:13 which states: “Whatsoever sacrifice thou offerest, thou shalt season it with salt, neither shalt thou take away the salt of the covenant of thy God from thy sacrifice. In all thy oblations thou shalt offer salt.” The salt was a symbol of wisdom and discretion.

12. It is the only family of rocks regularly eaten by humans.

Source:  http://listverse.com/2009/05/11/15-fascinating-facts-about-salt/


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If you say that someone is the salt of the ​earth, you ​mean that they are a very good and ​honest ​person.

Source:  http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/be-the-salt-of-the-earth


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Food without salt becomes insipid:

in·sip·id - adjective
lacking flavor.
"mugs of insipid coffee"
synonyms:   tasteless, flavorless, bland, weak, wishy-washy;
lacking vigor or interest.
"many artists continued to churn out insipid, shallow works"
synonyms:   unimaginative, uninspired, uninspiring, characterless, flat, uninteresting, lackluster, dull, drab, boring, dry, humdrum, ho-hum, monochrome, tedious, uneventful, run-of-the-mill, commonplace, pedestrian, trite, tired, hackneyed, stale, lame, wishy-washy, colorless, anemic, lifeless
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: indianabob on September 26, 2015, 11:58:12 PM
Hi Gina,

Gina said " food without salt becomes insipid"

I like salt too, but I have cultivated a taste for the natural foods of the vegetable and fruit variety. Apples, pears, oranges, bananas etc. Raw cabbage, lettuce, carrots, onions, radishes, taste good just as they are.
We use almost NO salt in our home.
I do occasionally eat potato chips that already have salt.

Of course I understand that many natural foods already have some sodium/potassium  chloride in them from the soil in which they grow.
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As a young child my mom would give me raw potatoes to much upon as she was preparing supper. (could be dangerous today due to how they are grown)
For salad dressing one can use vinegar and oil with spices other than salt.
This is not to criticize salt users, just an interesting observation.

Morton's Salt "when it rains, it pours". Also contains Iodine to prevent goiter.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 27, 2015, 12:34:17 AM
Everything in moderation, of course.  I prefer sea salt, personally, but that's me.  I heard table salt isn't all that good for you, but whatever you prefer.  I think it is better to be grateful for what God places before you, and that a thankful spirit with little does a body more good than an unthankful one with lots of good food.

Food without salt becomes insipid (dull, boring, tasteless, useless etc.) was quote but I was thinking of it in terms of us being the salt of the earth.  Ray was perty salty.  Jesus was perty salty. Paul was perty salty.  The others were too. :-)

Salt is also good preservative.  It's interesting that there is so much of it in the sea and the oceans, though, you know?  I buy reverse osmosis water because California puts fluoride in their municipal water supplies.  And RO takes out fluoride.  Anyway, I add sea salt to my water because RO takes out not just fluoride by every other mineral you can think of. 

Old people in New York City were dying in the heatwaves one year as I recall because they were on all kinds of high BP medications and because of that (High BP meds are diuretics) they didn't have enough water in their bodies to produce sweat to cool  and regulate their body temperatures, and so they overheated and died.  But again, everything in moderation.  As Ray said, salt is sprinkled on food not caked on it, much like it is in the earth -- there a salt mine here and there but the earth itself isn't doused in salt.

Salt also puts out fires.  Sodium chloride (salt) is one of the principle extinguishing ingredients in fire extinguishers.  I just learned that.  And I just learned that sodium is highly reactive.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: indianabob on September 27, 2015, 03:26:36 AM
Hi Gina,

I think that we will find that most household dry chem. extinguishers contain Sodium Bicarbonate or Potassium Bicarbonate or Carbon dioxide gas.

common salt or Sodium Chloride compound is reserved for commercial applications based on class D combustible metal fires.

Correct; Sodium metal alone is highly reactive, household salt is not.  8)   ::)   ;D
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: rick on September 27, 2015, 04:18:41 AM
Hi Gina,

Good to see your back Gina, I agree about the sea salt thing, its all I use.  ;)

God bless.  :)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 27, 2015, 10:20:35 AM
Well, I don't know about that, Bob --  try putting some table salt up your nose or in your eyes or on a wound and see if you don't jump through your skin. :-)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 27, 2015, 10:22:12 AM
Thanks, Rick!  Yeah, I love sea salt.  I use this celtic stuff that really wakes up the flavor of my food and the funny thing is, I use less of it than I would table salt.   :)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: indianabob on September 27, 2015, 02:28:40 PM
Salt burns in a wound. Sea salt would too...??

Well yes you are correct, but that is temporary and it helps us to heal, but the pain is partly due to salt absorbing the moisture out of our skin/flesh and our nervous system telling us that a little goes a long way.

Also, I have used a prescribed salt solution spray up my nose to relieve symptoms of a head cold. A dilute solution by the way... (smile)






Well, I don't know about that, Bob --  try putting some table salt up your nose or in your eyes or on a wound and see if you don't jump through your skin. :-)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: octoberose on September 27, 2015, 04:39:33 PM
We recently were on a road trip to Washington state and stopped by the Great Salt Lake. I took off my shoes and walked in it.  :) It's an amazing sight, and of course they mine the salt. Sea life in the lake  is very limited but does exist.
 When I think of salt I think of flavor and preservation and healing. And of course in Jesus' day it was a precious commodity.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 27, 2015, 08:20:50 PM
We recently were on a road trip to Washington state and stopped by the Great Salt Lake. I took off my shoes and walked in it.  :) It's an amazing sight, and of course they mine the salt. Sea life in the lake  is very limited but does exist.
 When I think of salt I think of flavor and preservation and healing. And of course in Jesus' day it was a precious commodity.

Hi Octoberose,

Yes, the Great Salt Lake is amazing.  I've only driven past it decades ago also on road trip to Montana which took me through the State of Washington, beautiful state!  And I think of the same things re salt.  Why was it a precious commodity in Jesus' day?  I thought they used it to preserve the fish or something and that the dead sea was basically right there.  I read in one place that the Romans used it as payment or something and therefore that's where the word "salary" comes from, but then I looked at another site and they debunked that silly myth.  hehe   The things people say haha!!
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: octoberose on September 27, 2015, 08:28:06 PM
Well, I'm finding that "salary goes back to the Latin word that originally denoted a 'allowance given to a Roman soldier for buying salt'. This was 'Salarium, a derivative of salt. " So you may have understood it right in the first place- I'm going with that! "
 
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 27, 2015, 08:30:42 PM
Salt burns in a wound. Sea salt would too...??

Well yes you are correct, but that is temporary and it helps us to heal, but the pain is partly due to salt absorbing the moisture out of our skin/flesh and our nervous system telling us that a little goes a long way.

Also, I have used a prescribed salt solution spray up my nose to relieve symptoms of a head cold. A dilute solution by the way... (smile)






Well, I don't know about that, Bob --  try putting some table salt up your nose or in your eyes or on a wound and see if you don't jump through your skin. :-)

he he, iBob of course it has to be diluted in your nose.  Yes, even diluted sea salt stings like a mo-fro.  I learned that when I thought it would be wise to open my eyes underwater in the ocean....once and only once.  :-D 
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 27, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
Well, I'm finding that "salary goes back to the Latin word that originally denoted a 'allowance given to a Roman soldier for buying salt'. This was 'Salarium, a derivative of salt. " So you may have understood it right in the first place- I'm going with that! "
 

I guess I was thinking of Mark 15 - where someone was testing Jesus about paying taxes to Caesar (a Roman emperor) and Jesus asked for a denarius and said, Whose image is on this coin? 

Yes, I went to the ancient history encyclopedia and maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything in there about currency made of salt or anything like that being paid to Roman soldiers.  http://www.ancient.eu/Roman_Coinage/  Before the denarius (which I think was made from silver?) there was a bulky bronze currency and other things. 

But I have heard the expression worth their weight in salt (maybe I'm dreamin'). 

Every time I go to do a google search for "salarium," it comes back with "Did you mean:  solarium"    I don't know.  It's pretty interesting stuff though, that's for sure.

Nice to see you here, Octoberose.  I hope you're doing well and your family and everything's fine. :)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 27, 2015, 09:00:36 PM
And I guess my other thought was if the soldiers were paid in salt, who were they going to trade it with being so close to the Dead Sea?  LOL  The street vendors would have been all like, What's this?!  I pack my fish in this stuff, Buddy!  Got loads of it right out there in the sea, for heaven's sake! Who you think you foolin'?

haha!
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: indianabob on September 28, 2015, 01:57:25 AM
Dead Sea salt is not the same as our table salt.
You could bathe in it but don't put it on your tomato salad.  ::)  :P
See attached.
Indiana Bob

Best Answer:  The Dead Sea waters contain salts of magnesium chloride (53%), potassium chloride (37%) and only 8% sodium chloride, which is normal table salt. Magnesium chloride and potassium chloride give the Dead Sea salt a bitter taste that makes it undesirable to consume, but not poisonous.

However, since raw sewage runs into the Dead Sea it probably is unsafe to drink. The salinity may kill most of the bacteria, but there are trace metals that are hazardous that are found in these waste waters. Agricultural chemicals are another problem.

Some Dead Sea salts are mined for 'therapeutic" uses, likely because some of the minerals in the salts are thought to be good for the skin.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 28, 2015, 02:17:08 AM
Wow, interesting find, Bob.  Magnesium is really good for you.  Yes, I would imagine back in Jesus' day with all of the Jews' sanitary rules and regulations, there was no one letting raw sewage drain into the Dead Sea.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Doug on September 28, 2015, 07:48:38 AM
Check into Himalayan salt, it is simply amazing. Research Sole which is a concentrated form of the salt.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 28, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
Thanks.  I get my magnesium (epsom salt to bathe in) online at Amazon for about a dollar a pound (that Sole salt is $29.99 for 2.2 lbs).  Right now salt is all the rage.

I can also get my sea salt (imported from Italy!  ::) ) from the 99 Cent store for a dollar a pound. 

I prefer the celtic salt for cooking and drinking the best but it's just a personal preference and it is very expensive (not as expensive as the Sole salt you mentioned), but it lasts a very long time!

My sister and I were talking yesterday about salt.  She read that it is good to put a pinch of sea salt under your tongue and let it absorb slowly then drink some water afterwards, as opposed to putting the salt in the water and drinking it that way.  It's supposed to get rid of headaches and stuff like that.  You would think you'd get pretty bloated taking salt like that, but so far I have not.  It's really good and healing for your gums and gum issues.

By the way, I also read that the Roman soldiers were paid a "salt salary,"  meaning, that's all they could afford with what they were paid.  Much like our soldiers are pretty much paid peanuts - not literally in peanuts - just that they are given barely enough to survive on.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Dennis Vogel on September 28, 2015, 02:02:04 PM
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By the way, I also read that the Roman soldiers were paid a "salt salary,"  meaning, that's all they could afford with what they were paid.  Much like our soldiers are pretty much paid peanuts - not literally in peanuts - just that they are given barely enough to survive on.

"All through history the availability of salt has been pivotal to civilization. The word "salary" comes from the Latin word for salt because the Roman Legions were sometimes paid in salt, which was quite literally worth its weight in gold."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 28, 2015, 06:54:26 PM
I saw that, Dennis, but I don't believe it is true after the other things I have seen and read, but thank you for your response.
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 28, 2015, 07:06:25 PM
Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt, and so she was literally worth her weight in salt.  Poor thing.   
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: cjwood on September 29, 2015, 05:32:43 PM

Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt, and so she was literally worth her weight in salt.  Poor thing.





gina, your statement made me laugh so loud my dog just turned and looked at me funny.   ;D  ;D

i have missed you.
claudia
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Gina on September 29, 2015, 06:34:08 PM
That is fantastic - you actually saw the humor in that.  Thank you for your warm words and God bless you and yours. You're in my prayers for a bright today and bright tomorrows. :)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Joel on September 30, 2015, 01:10:38 AM
I really like salt, and have as far back as I can remember.
I use it on food on a daily basis, some people tell me I use it excessively.
During the hot summer months when I work outside, I tend to perspire a lot, and maybe that is my body's way of replacing salt I've lost through sweat. That's my excuse for over salting anyway.
Some businesses use to provide salt tablets in their medicine chests or first aid boxes years ago, I don't think they do that as much these days though.
I also drink a lot of water, but that's another story.

Joel


Title: Re: Salt
Post by: indianabob on September 30, 2015, 03:08:57 AM
Hi Joel,

I worked in the Gary, IN steel mill when I was a little younger.
We took salt tabs from a dispenser at the control panel.
It was 110 degrees outside the furnace floor and about 3000 degrees in the furnace. We had to walk up to the furnace door and pitch a shovel full of dolomite into the furnace to patch the brick floor before the scrap metal could be loaded from the "charging car". To protect our skin we wore winter underwear which was soaking wet and then completely dry after a few shovels of patch. Lots of fun especially while I still had a vision of "hell" in my mind thinking of Daniel and his friends in the fiery furnace.
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I lasted only one year at that job before taking a vacation in the US Air Force guarding planes loaded with Hydrogen bombs.
Now there is a really big fiery furnace. (smile)
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: Joel on September 30, 2015, 11:54:04 AM
Hi Indianabob,
That's an interesting story about the furnace.
When I was in my late teens I worked a short time for PPG industries fiber glass plant.
My job was to pull a glowing stream of glass from a furnace bushing through a binder and wind it up onto a paper spool.
They used the product in the making of tire cord back when fiberglass tires were popular, I lasted there less than a year. It was common for workers to get what was called a bead strap of glass embedded in their hand or fingers and needed to see the plant nurse on that shift.
I later worked for commercial printing companies for 26 years, the presses I ran had up to 8 driers that cured the ink and UV coating.
Even though the building was well air conditioned, near the press could get very hot, I popped a few salt tablets in my day also. :)

Joel
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: theophilus on October 01, 2015, 04:00:36 PM
 Food for thought: Cutting back on salt may cause you to eat more

(BPT) - Our bodies naturally crave salt, a necessary nutrient, and research shows that we
gravitate to the amount we need for our bodies to function properly. Salt deficiency has been
linked to a host of health concerns, including insulin resistance, increased risk of heart attacks
and reduced cognition. But what if eating less salt also increases your weight by making you eat
more?

"Over the past 30 years, an interesting phenomenon has occurred: the rates of obesity have
dramatically gone up but the amount of salt we consume has remained fairly stable," says Mort
Satin of the Salt Institute. "Food producers have been lowering the amount of salt they use, under
pressure from the government and consumer activists, so we are either eating a lot more food to
get the salt we need or have drastically lowered our activity levels, or both."

In the U.S., research shows that people have been consuming about the same amount of salt on a daily basis for 50 years. And
around the world most people eat about the same amount of salt - about 3,500 mg/day, according to the World Health Organization. It appears that we all, when free to choose, eat enough to keep us in a "safe range" between 2,300 mg/day and 4,600/mg a day, according to medical researcher Bjorn Folkow.

"It stands to reason that if the amount of salt in food is lowered, we will eat more to get to our safe range," Satin says. "More food
equals more calories and that means more weight gain, unless we increased our physical activity to burn off the extra calories."-
This isn't news to those who raise livestock. According to Dr. Rick Rasby, professor of animal science at the University of Nebraska,
cattlemen intentionally control the amount of salt in cattle feed to either reduce the cost of feed or to fatten cows up before sale. If
they add more salt to the feed, the cows naturally eat less. If they reduce the amount of salt, then the cows will eat more.
This instinct is driven by the body's physiology designed to maintain an efficient cardiovascular system, according to researchers at
the Washington University School of Medicine. This vital life-sustaining system is found in fish, reptiles and all mammals. This system is so robust that it contains multiple failsafe mechanisms. The body will actually retain salt if you try and cut back too much. Of course any excess salt is simply washed away when you drink water through the natural process.

The irony is that for most of us there is no need to reduce the amount of salt we consume, Satin says. Years of scientific evidence,
including recent research by Canadian scientists published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), shows that
eating the levels of salt recommended by the American Heart Association or the U.S. government would actually cause harm.
Current recommendations from the American Heart Association are as low as 1,500 mg/day, an amount so low that European
researchers, also writing in JAMA, found it would increase the risk of heart attacks and early death.-

"The unintended consequence of the ongoing salt reduction experiment may be an increase in obesity," Satin says. "More research is needed, but meanwhile, individuals may want to focus on a balanced diet and regular exercise and remember that lowering the salt in food may make you want to eat more.

http://www.saltinstitute.org/publication/food-for-thought-cutting-back-on-salt-may-cause-you-to-eat-more/
Title: Re: Salt
Post by: judy on October 01, 2015, 06:53:43 PM
Dear everybody, "Iodized" salt is not always found in food. Iodized salt contains iron, people suffered goiter like Indiana Bob said in the middle west for yrs because they were away from the ocean. My mother did. My doctor told me to eat a teaspoon of Iodized salt a day because I have anemia problems. I found i like beer now because i put the salt in it. Funny!!! Or maybe not!!