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=> General Discussions => Topic started by: jackson on June 13, 2007, 12:51:00 PM
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Hey everyone,
OK, I've got a question. As I'm sure this has been discussed here before I tried searching it but couldn't find any thing relevant. So I'm sorry for bringing up old topics ... But I just gotta know ;D
I was reading in 1 Peter last night and as I got to the end I found something I'd never taken notice of before. In Peter's final greetings of his letter he writes:
1 Peter 5:13 She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.
Just a few questions:
1- Who is this "she" that Peter is talking about?
2- Why is she "chosen together" with God's elect (that is who the letter is addressed to)?
3- Is the "Babylon" he speaks of here the literal physical address from which he was writing (as in the Egyptian Babylon, which was a military post, the Mesopotamian Babylon; or maybe he was talking about Jerusalem or Rome)?
4- If Peter was using the name "Babylon" symbolically as it is used in Revelation then why is he there?
Again, sorry if this is redundant but I couldn't find anything in my Bible or here to explain this. Of course its completely possible that I didn't know what to look for :-\
Questions are the easy part, answers raise the doubt ???
In His Grace,
Jackson
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Hi Jackson,
King James reads;
1Pe 5:13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Mark my son.
Amplified Bible reads;
1 Peter 5:13 She [your sister church here] in Babylon, [who is] elect (chosen) with [yourselves], sends you greetings, and [so does] my son (disciple) Mark.
and Young's Literal Translation is;
1 Peter 5:13 Salute you doth the [assembly] in Babylon jointly elected, and Markus my son.
I believe the translation you quoted Rotherham's, which is normally the one I consult most especially when a question of contradiction arises, it appears Peter was addressing his letter from the church that was established in physical Babylon and is not a reference to spiritual Babylon the harlot.
His Peace to you,
Joe
PS To my knowledge this is the first time I heard this question asked.
Congratulations! ;)
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Hello again Jackson.
Sorry I didn't address the question of "she." The church is referred to as a woman, a clean and chaste virgin in the true church and a harlot or whore in the Synagogue of Satan.
Hope this helps a bit.
Joe
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Joe, that was fantastic! Thank you.
The King James and the Amplified version makes much better sence. I was quoting from the NIV which usually gives a good read but that verse really confounded me last night. I went to bed thinking "what in the world is Peter talking about? Maybe he has a girl friend??? ;D".
Any way I'm glad it's not so sinister. It appears as though I've been a victim of a bad interperation or possibly clouded thinking on my part. :-[
Which ever the case, thanks again Joe for the clarity :)
Jackson
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is d@ it??,
JokEs!!!!! welL donE JOE lol! :D GOD is GOOD!.
muchLOVE!! Pera
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Thanks guys, Ray has said many times he uses multiple translations in his research, if you don't already have a link to Bible Gateway here it is; http://www.biblegateway.com/
It is a very handy tool.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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That's why I like using e-sword. I've got tons of translations on it and can parallel them or compare them, have concordances, dictionaries, commentaries, maps, all at my fingertips, it's great!
Matt
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Hi all,
It never occurred to me to compare bible translations before coming to Bible-Truths.com. As a JW, we were encouraged to use the New World Translation only. Growing up as a Baptist, I recall using the King James bible only. Now that I'm out of Babylon, I see clearly how important it is to use various translations as a study tool. The light keeps getting brighter! :)
Rene'