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Is Jesus an equal part of the “godhead”?  Was he ‘ALWAYS’, like ‘just forever’?  Where did Jesus come from?  Did he have a “beginning”, a start?  GOD’S “begotten son”.  When?  Before or after birth in this evil world?

Recently I went back to the 2006 mobile conference. 

“Ray: Now we get into the Trinity business, and oh I thought Christ was God and He existed with God for all eternity. No, He did not. “ ….”The right order of the words in the linear is, ‘and God was the word.’ “and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning WITH God.” Now it’s pretty hard for something that is something, to be with itself, see what I’m saying, that does’t quite work grammatically, does it?
Ray: “So in John 13:3  "and that HE CAME FROM GOD,” that’s where Jesus came from, GOD. Not from the Godhead, not from the Trinity, FROM GOD.

John 16:27  for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I CAME OUT FROM GOD. (Just like Eve came out from Adam)
v. 28  I CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER, and have come into the world.”

“Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, ……..THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD;”(Caps mine)……..
“The beginning was the Word of God, what did God began with? Jesus Christ, right? The Word, that’s what God began with, Jesus Christ is the beginning.” ……

Revelation is a hard read.  But the pearl was there.  ‘Spiritual matches’ that Ray emphasizes.  A little here, a little there. 

REV 3:14 “The beginning of the creation of GOD. says this“……”NASB)

WHEN did that get put in there? 

You have to love Ray.  “Pay attention to the words, ALL the words”.  “Don’t just read over the words”.  “Weigh GOD’S words very carefully”.

GOD is good. 

Such a blessing is L Ray Smith, Pennsylvania farm boy.

Hi again Pamela, you said: Do things happen outside of God’s foreknowledge? I am
not trying to be disagreeable, I just have confidence that whatever it’s being used for is in Gods plan .  what should I be careful of, I need to know.
In Christ, Pamela.
  Copy and paste the above to Gemeni,  it might help with it's answer. Have fun with AI as I do.

There is nothing new under the sun, this stuff is primitive.
It is a reflection of the human behind it yes, but All Is Of God.
I asked it if was evil. Here’s the answer.
AI is considered a tool , rather than inherently evil or good.
Like a hammer or other tools , its potential for harm or benefit
depends on human intention, design and application.

Its potential for harm or benefit depends on human intention?
Excuse me but what happened to God’s Sovereignty? It’s answer
is the typical answer of a true free willer that exalts itself above
all that is called God, 2 Thes.2:4

Do we know what God’s intention is for AI? Maybe it’s exactly what it’s doing
already, I don’t know. Do things happen outside of God’s foreknowledge? I am
not trying to be disagreeable, I just have confidence that whatever it’s being used for is in Gods plan . Ok , what should I be careful of, I need to know.
In Christ, Pamela

High musterseed,
What we need to be careful about is how it’s used and trusted. AI doesn’t “think” or have judgment—it relies on data created by humans, which means it can reflect bias, make mistakes, or be misused. Over-reliance on AI without human oversight, loss of privacy, and the spread of misinformation are real concerns.
take care, Bob

100% agree Bob

High musterseed,
What we need to be careful about is how it’s used and trusted. AI doesn’t “think” or have judgment—it relies on data created by humans, which means it can reflect bias, make mistakes, or be misused. Over-reliance on AI without human oversight, loss of privacy, and the spread of misinformation are real concerns.
take care, Bob

Thank you Maddie. My son is doing better, slowly but surely as he put it.

God Bless you and all BT

AI Jesus
Have you guys seen all of the videos on you tube about Germany and Switzerland
using AI preaching and taking confessions in their churches? I just discovered them.
I enjoyed reading the comments. And yes they call it AI Jesus.

Knowing God is Sovereign is such an amazing and wonderful gift when seeing
these things happening. Some of the comments were humorous
There were instructions in the confession box, if you accept you have to push a button before getting started. I think it said not to confess your darkest sins, at least not yet. I might have misunderstood that , I’m not sure 🤔

Anyway , one comment was “ AI Jesus, I only sold two bags of weed today “
AI Jesus replies,” try harder next time” and two hours later the cops are at my door.😁

Another one said, “ it’s blasphemy and putting our ministers out of business”
😀 I say Amen to that.

I like this one… religion is sitting in church and thinking about fishing,
relationship is going fishing and thinking about Jesus.
This reminded me….

And Jesus will make you fishers of men, the parable of the dragnet comes to mind
and also when Jesus helped His disciples catch a very huge haul and then are separated good from bad. Our Lord is so awesome .

I used Google, I think it’s called Gemini. I was curious about AI . It’s quite interesting.I fed it many scriptures and quotes  .I just gave it chapter and number of verse and it automatically gave me the verse, that’s convenient. Our subject was AI barons and their purpose and intention
for AI. The Ai used the scriptures and I interpreted them as we have learned from
the LOF series. The conclusion was that they, the AI barons were trying to replace
God and we’re ultimately setting a trap for themselves. I thought about Ester and
Mordacai and how Hammon was hung on his own gallows.
I don’t know if this is what will happen but it is very interesting to watch. I pray you are all doing well. Any thoughts on this subject as it is speeding up quite rapidly.

God is not mocked, He sits in the heavens and laughs

I heard the Bernie Mac line too 😅😂

I'm praying for your son Pamela.

Of course I don't know the logistics, but I think there is some value to considering just "how" things will work.  I think that, because the very act of "considering" reveals and hones the Spiritual underpinnings of our "considerations", not because we're going to out-think God.

We have this--"...the dead in Christ shall rise first, then after that those who are alive and remain...".  That sure sounds to me like the fullness of "HIS" church.  Given other Scripture that talks about the ultimate work of this Church, it's going to all be about the Ministry of Reconciliation.  I believe the great masses of humanity will be next, though I lean towards the thought that the "order" mentioned (each in their own order) will be from chronologically last to chronologically first through the generations.  Generations are family.  So I think it's an honest, scripturally based thought that His Church begins it's Ministry "honoring their fathers and mothers" and "training up their children" not just personally, but in that generation.  I tend to think that process will continue in and with each generation until the first is last. 

And then it is "the church's" turn to arise and be judged.  The "first who will be last" in the Spiritual sense.  Perhaps that is when Satan is released "after 1000 years" only to find an undeceived and undeceivable world.  There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, I reckon.  But Justice, and Mercy and overarching Love will win and reign, and "creating them in His image" will be fact, not just project.

Honest, and scripturally based...but not as good as what is yet to come.  Jesus, who loved us, is Lord.