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 on: October 11, 2018, 04:33:25 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by Wanda
quote]Since Cannabis is being legalized in Canada in about a week, how should it be dealt with?

Dealt with how,  could you be more specific?

 on: October 11, 2018, 04:06:28 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by lareli
“Woe to them who call good evil and evil good”

We (society) don’t even attempt to discern between “good and evil” for ourselves anymore.. but instead we discern between “evil and lesser evil” instead. We think the “lesser evil” is “good”. At least in politics. We don’t even try to hide this either.

If I vote for the lesser of two evils then society tells me I’ve done “good”. But I haven’t. I’ve done “evil”.

If I say I will not vote for either of the two evils then society tells me I’ve done “evil”. But I haven’t. On the contrary I have refused to do evil.

This, to me, is calling good evil and evil good.

 on: October 11, 2018, 01:50:21 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by ML
Since Cannabis is being legalized in Canada in about a week, how should it be dealt with? I have no intention of using it, but I know people like their money, and expecting a lot of people to eat this stuff up.

Do you think if someone has problems, causing them pain, etc. they can use it safely? Or is that a myth?

We cannot play the "its not legal" card anymore, because now it is.

 on: October 11, 2018, 06:32:38 AM 
Started by jeetkunejimi - Last post by Prune Soleiado
Everybody know homosexuality is an abomination. Even the homosexual married ones. For we all are God’s creatures, we all come from God through Christ, so even non believers, deep inside their hearts, disagree with homosexuality.
They’re just being hypocrites, they lie about their acceptation of what is unacceptable. They are Satan’s children.
God’s children don’t buy this lie for the price of their nowadays judgement and salvation is too high.
God’s children live by the Word of God which is Truth.
The Word of God is Spirit because God is Spirit.
God’s children live by the Spirit of the Lord, the spirit of wisdom and the spirit of understanding, the spirit of counsel and the spirit of might, the spirit of knowledge and the spirit of the fear of the LORD.
Are we still talking spiritual ?
Are we really living in peace among non believers ?
Let our Yes be Yes and our No be No. Let’s tell frankly but with calm and love and peace to people when our hearts are troubled with their ways of living if they want to yoke us with them.
What do you fear? To be hated when you love? To be rejected when you forgive? To be mocked when you want to share?
Remember agapeo love. Remember that God « agapeo » the world so much He gave His Son as a sacrifice to show His Pure Love.
God’s children don’t have to go to a lesbian wedding if they feel it doesn’t serve the glory of their Father.
But who are we humans to choose? Are humans to decide where the spirit of the Lord should bring them?
If you have Christ in you, then He will decide for you so God is glorified. All is according to God’s marvelous plan through Christ.
God’s children are to be in the world even though they don’t belong to this world anymore. They are a living testimony of God’s salvation through Christ.
So if we refuse to participate to those pagan celebrations, we can at least tell and show pagan people we agapeo them anyway, which is serving them the exact way the good samaritan takes care of the abandoned and wounded one.
Matthew 5:14:
“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. »
Let’s be that light full of God’s Love and don’t hide it when we disagree.

 on: October 11, 2018, 01:06:11 AM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by AwesomeSavior
Thank you lareli for quoting from Ray's Tower paper. It was nice to read that paper, and where he quoted Isaiah 30:25 to try and make sense of a literal tragedy, and his belief that this was a "very specific catastrophe" and "to make public to our readers the prophetic implications of this colossal disaster".

I agree. I believe that event was an omen of things to come, continuing the unfortunate downward spiral of America, evident all these years later.

My main focus is as Ray has taught, to compare spiritual with spiritual. My lesser, but not neglected focus is on any other truth.


 on: October 10, 2018, 04:00:12 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by lareli
Ray wrote his thoughts on who the Israel of prophecy is..

“According to virtually all Christian teachers and scholars, when prophecy mentions Jerusalem, Judah, or Israel, it is speaking of literal Jerusalem, Judah, or Israel. For them, if "context, context, context" is the god of theological interpretation, then "literal, literal, literal," has got to be their vice-god. If this is true, then when it speaks of "Abraham's seed," it must mean "literal" bloodline descendants of Abraham, correct? No, NOT correct!”

There’s more in the towers paper.

Maybe reread?

 on: October 10, 2018, 01:06:41 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by AwesomeSavior

Around one year ago, I posted a great lengthy reply in another thread. That thread was entitled, "Who are the Real Hebrew Israelites today". Mine is the 5th (and 3rd) reply to the original poster of that thread. The proof is there, for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear what God is doing in the natural realm, and not just the primary, spiritual realm of our heavens. I did not go into detail on this current thread out of respect to Dennis, and not wanting anything political mentioned.

I apologize for offending you.

Happy Birthday to you!


 on: October 10, 2018, 01:04:52 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by indianabob
Hi Mike, (ZekeSr)

Thanks for the explanation. Valid points to consider.

One of the things we who's eyes have been opened are supposed to have come to understand is that it really doesn't matter how long the end may take to arrive. I'm 83 and could last another ten years.(?)
But what I know is that a few seconds after I take my last breath, I will awake with our Lord Jesus and that date and time is when I will begin at last to understand more fully whatever it is that I am given to know.

I'm looking forward to my last breaths as the beginning of the rest of my life and I have no fear whatsoever that it will be with our Lord. May that day come soon.

ole, well worn, Indiana Bob  ::)

 on: October 10, 2018, 09:12:55 AM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by ZekeSr

If God were causing you to pay attention to the significance of what is happening all around you, in this nation and the world, you would not be in such ignorance.

But so be it.


If my response was overly blunt, I apologize. But I don’t believe it required your “I’m holier than thou” insult. I would have much preferred to see an explanation of your viewpoint.
As far as my stance goes on hurricanes: There have been over 290 storms that have hit the U.S. mainland since 1851. Only a very-very small percentage have been a category four or five. And despite the media hype and ranting of certain entities with an agenda, there is no substantial proof of an increase in the frequency and intensity of these storms over a period of time beyond a natural 60 – 70-year cycle.

I do not take any of these storms lightly. Michael could be another terrible disaster for those in its path. But we have to be very careful not to make assumptions based on natural events. Galveston in the year 1900 is still the worst loss of life at 8000. That doesn’t mean these storms may not pan out differently in the long run, but one must look from afar to gain the big picture.

Also, I am 68 years old today and painfully aware of national and world events (much to my wife’s chagrin  ::)). I’ve lived through and seen a lot of tumult. And I have watched my nation and the world change right before my eyes. It is not an encouraging picture.
I do believe we are entering the end of the age. And I contend that the morning of July 16, 1945, the day of the first nuclear bomb detonation in the New Mexico desert, could be considered the opening salvo of the end time. But, obviously, the end is not yet. And no man knows when that will be.   


 on: October 10, 2018, 04:25:52 AM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by octoberose
Normalizing something means it has become acceptable, standard, regular, ordinary, typical, common, average, natural, conventional.

I looked it up.

Correct. But Normal doesn’t mean good. The scripture you quoted doesn’t say ‘woe to those who call evil normal, and normal evil’

Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, the richest company in the world , said
 “ I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me”.

So yes, he believes it is good . 

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