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 61 
 on: December 01, 2018, 07:58:38 PM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Do you have a link?

There are a dozen or so other YouTube channels with Ray's material.

 62 
 on: December 01, 2018, 07:43:22 PM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by Musterseed
I just watched individual you tube teachings from the LOF series from a Mr. McKay.
Who’s that?

Evil in the church, hell , etc. The first video I watched had a pic of a big earth on it.🌏

Have you guys seen these already or am I a slowpoke?
I was very excited. This is fire from heaven. I remember Ray saying , in one of his papers, (don’t ask me where, I don’t remember ) “ this will make them very angry”   Any thoughts? 😀

In Christ, Pamela

 63 
 on: November 30, 2018, 10:07:54 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by ML
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personal freedom is a good thing. If I don’t have the freedom to put whatever I want into my body so long as it doesn’t harm another person, than I do not have ownership over my own body. And if I don’t have ownership over my own body than someone else does and I am not free.

I wish freedom for all of you to do what you want with your own lives as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. Even if you want to ruin your own life. Every person should have the right to ruin their lives if they so choose.... to their own master will they rise or fall.
I personally don't see freedom in "making any possible choice, regardless of consequences." Freedom is found in Christ, not apart from Him. How would hurting yourself, no matter how much or little it affects others, be glorifying God? It is not glorifying God.

I think God would hurt the most by His child hurting themselves.

1 Corinthians 3
16Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1 Corinthians 6
19Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

 64 
 on: November 30, 2018, 09:41:45 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by friendofJC
I think discipline is needed.  Most behavior is habitual, and they say chains of habit are too weak to be felt until they are too strong to be broken. 

 65 
 on: November 30, 2018, 09:22:54 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by John from Kentucky
What do the Scriptures say about this issue?

The Scriptures do not condemn drinking alcohol, but strongly condemns intoxication.
After all, Jesus's 1st miracle was creating hundreds of gallons of good wine.

I have never had marijuana or any kind of any illegal drugs.

So if marijuana causes immediate intoxication, I would say the Scriptures would condemn it.

Also, if smoking tobacco causes harm to your body, wouldn't the smoking of marijuana cause similar harm?

An overall principle of Scripture is to cause no harm to yourself or others.

So how can smoking marijuana be O.K. just because you think it is right?  Only God decides right and wrong.

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil has bitter fruit.









 66 
 on: November 30, 2018, 07:18:39 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Back in the 80's Cannabis was 10% as powerful as it is today.

If you are an island and have no one that will deeply mourn your passing then ...

No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

John Donne

I can't say that the above is biblical - It's a poem


Poet's Notes about The Poem
These famous words by John Donne were not originally written as a poem - the passage is taken from the 1624 Meditation 17, from Devotions Upon Emergent Occasions and is prose. The words of the original passage are as follows:

John Donne
Meditation 17
Devotions upon Emergent Occasions

'No man is an iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee....'  'Google'


 67 
 on: November 30, 2018, 05:31:29 PM 
Started by ML - Last post by lareli
The 1930’s and 1980’s drug war propaganda was very effective in deceiving the masses and influencing the opinions of people for decades. But the truth can never be hidden forever and I’m thankful to God that more and more people are awaking out of their ignorance of what Cannabis is and what it isn’t.

I smoke Cannabis daily. The THC kind. It has been a blessing and I give thanks to the Almighty Creator for creating every seed bearing herb for the service of man. It serves me well.

Regardless of your thoughts on Cannabis, personal freedom is a good thing. If I don’t have the freedom to put whatever I want into my body so long as it doesn’t harm another person, than I do not have ownership over my own body. And if I don’t have ownership over my own body than someone else does and I am not free.

I wish freedom for all of you to do what you want with your own lives as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. Even if you want to ruin your own life. Every person should have the right to ruin their lives if they so choose.... to their own master will they rise or fall.

God Bless you ALL.

 68 
 on: November 30, 2018, 01:44:43 PM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by indianabob
Interesting comments all.

I have to wonder?

When I was growing up my friends and family included members of several religions.
Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, & none of the above.
Now I am sincerely wondering why any of the members of these and other religions are so afraid when one of their family takes an interest in some other religion. Is their "god" so weak that their "god" cannot allow anyone to disagree for fear that their "god" will lose members.

Seems to me a real GOD would be able to motivate belief in anyone...they chose.

Is their "faith" so weak and fearful that they will go so far as to kill a friend who disagrees?

That is "sick"... >:(

 69 
 on: November 30, 2018, 12:06:02 PM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by Dennis Vogel
I just read an article that for the nativity scene this year, the vatican is shipping in
700 tons of sand and international artists from all over the world to sculpt it .😂😂😂



There is a Pakistani woman in Pakistan named Asia Bibi. She is, strangely enough, Catholic. In 2010, she was sentenced to death and fined $1,100 for the major crime of blasphemy, because she was allegedly critical of Mohammed. She appealed her case in 2018 while spending eight years in prison. The Supreme Court bravely overturned the decision for a gross lack of evidence with indications that her accusers lied. There have been major protests in Pakistan over the Supreme Court decision, as the people want her hung.

Asia has requested asylum in the U.K., but has been turned down because: “the UK government had concerns that her moving to the UK would cause security concerns and unrest among certain sections of the community and would also be a security threat to British embassies abroad which might be targeted by Islamist terrorists.”  Germany has done the same. Other countries like the U.S., Canada, and Australia are (deliberately?) dragging their feet while she is in hiding with people actively searching to kill her.
Meanwhile, Italy’s Foreign Minister Matteo Salvini, said that he’d do “everything humanly possible” to bring Bibi to Italy and grant her asylum. He said Italy is also working “discreetly” with other Western governments to make that possible. Back in Feb, before she was acquitted, the pope met with her husband and daughter and said, he “thinks a lot about your mother and prays for her,” defining Bibi as a “wonderful martyr woman.”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but now that she's been acquitted, I don’t believe he has become involved with this ‘wonderful catholic martyr woman’s’ need for asylum. After making that comment, I suppose it would be much simpler for him if she truly becomes a martyr. Then again, maybe he’s just too busy playing in his giant sand box.

Mike

I read that she was let out of jail on condition she would not leave Pakistan.

 70 
 on: November 30, 2018, 10:20:57 AM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by Musterseed
The Whole Babylon religious/ political system is build on sand and the storms and winds
and the rains come ,,,,breaking it down.

Proverbs 16:4-5
The Lord has made everything for its purpose,
even the wicked for the day of trouble.
Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord;
be assured ,he will not go unpunished.

Amen, Come Lord Jesus

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