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 61 
 on: October 05, 2018, 10:46:23 PM 
Started by Kenneth - Last post by Kenneth
This also from Ray's material :"And He [Jesus] is the propitiation [Greek: hilasmos, signifies "an expiation, a means whereby sin is COVERED and remitted" Strong', p. 121] "
My Strong's Concordance has only this for  Strong's #G2434 hilasmos; atonement,  i.e. (concretely) an expiator: propitiation. "
Mine does not have what Ray has quoted from Strong's # 2434 [ "an expiation, a means wherby sin is COVERED and remitted."]
I'm beginning to think that maybe  there are editions for Strong's Concordance and I have probably got an edition. Also my Greek Dictionary does not correspond to Ray's quote of pg numbers 121. Maybe I'm missing something here.

 62 
 on: October 05, 2018, 09:56:35 PM 
Started by Kenneth - Last post by Kenneth
Indiana Bob I've got this from Ray's material "God judges the world in a pond." : "And the word limen means "a harbor-haven, the fair havens" ( Strong's Greek Dictionary, p. 151)."
My Strong's Greek Dictionary at the back of my Strong's Concordance does not  correspond to the pg numbers that Ray gives as with the above quote.

 63 
 on: October 05, 2018, 06:29:39 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Dennis Vogel
Normalizing something means it has become acceptable, standard, regular, ordinary, typical, common, average, natural, conventional.

I looked it up.

Correct. But Normal doesn’t mean good. The scripture you quoted doesn’t say ‘woe to those who call evil normal, and normal evil’

Normal, acceptable, standard, regular, ordinary, typical, common, average, natural, conventional.... none of those words mean ‘good’.

Can you think of an example of homosexuality being called ‘good’ not ‘normal’ but ‘good’? Or heterosexuality being called ‘evil’?

Semantics. Homosexuality is not normal or good. But there are places in this country where homosexuality is normal. Does that make it good?

I'll bet if you go to the Bay Area and ask the question "is homosexuality acceptable, standard, regular, ordinary, typical, common, average, natural, and conventional" the answer will be 'yes'. But we know practicing homosexuality is evil. Semantics.

I don’t disagree with you. But that wouldn’t be the question to ask. The question to ask would be “is homosexuality good

Semantics is the study of the meaning of words, so yes, it’s semantics. Acceptable, standard, regular... none of those mean “good”.

Normal, standard, regular... death is all of those things. Death is not ‘good’.

The word 'semantics' can be used in a somewhat sarcastic way. It means playing with words that have similar meanings to prove a point. That's what I meant.

 64 
 on: October 05, 2018, 04:53:00 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by Tim Krantz
KJV Dan.12:4
But thou O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book even to the time of the end, many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.   

Youngs Literal Translation
  Dan 12:4  And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'

    Maybe the increase in knowledge will be about Daniels book. Hope so

 65 
 on: October 05, 2018, 04:50:01 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by ML
I don’t disagree with you. But that wouldn’t be the question to ask. The question to ask would be “is homosexuality good

Semantics is the study of the meaning of words, so yes, it’s semantics. Acceptable, standard, regular... none of those mean “good”.
What would you call adults making storybooks and costumes about homosexual and transgender relationships, and encouraging them to do the same? Or these "parades"(more like "charades") that they put on?

Not exactly related, but with abortion, they fight for "women's rights," a terrible euphemism blurted out over and over, to distract you from all the murders they do. They would probably say it is "good" for a women to have control over her own body. Problem is, is that it is not her body that is being killed, but another.

 66 
 on: October 05, 2018, 04:27:16 PM 
Started by Dennis Vogel - Last post by lareli
Normalizing something means it has become acceptable, standard, regular, ordinary, typical, common, average, natural, conventional.

I looked it up.

Correct. But Normal doesn’t mean good. The scripture you quoted doesn’t say ‘woe to those who call evil normal, and normal evil’

Normal, acceptable, standard, regular, ordinary, typical, common, average, natural, conventional.... none of those words mean ‘good’.

Can you think of an example of homosexuality being called ‘good’ not ‘normal’ but ‘good’? Or heterosexuality being called ‘evil’?

Semantics. Homosexuality is not normal or good. But there are places in this country where homosexuality is normal. Does that make it good?

I'll bet if you go to the Bay Area and ask the question "is homosexuality acceptable, standard, regular, ordinary, typical, common, average, natural, and conventional" the answer will be 'yes'. But we know practicing homosexuality is evil. Semantics.

I don’t disagree with you. But that wouldn’t be the question to ask. The question to ask would be “is homosexuality good

Semantics is the study of the meaning of words, so yes, it’s semantics. Acceptable, standard, regular... none of those mean “good”.

Normal, standard, regular... death is all of those things. Death is not ‘good’.


 67 
 on: October 05, 2018, 04:01:36 PM 
Started by Dave in Tenn - Last post by Dave in Tenn
Yeah, I know.  Fellowship by sharing you-tube videos is kinda "face-booky".  But this one I can't help.

Does this sound righteous?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTKEBygQic0

 68 
 on: October 05, 2018, 12:44:05 PM 
Started by Kenneth - Last post by indianabob
Friend Kenneth,

The numbers in brackets that you mention may be "Strong's Numbers" for each word rather than page numbers where a word is found. Please check a resource guide to using the Exhaustive Strong's Concordance for further help in your searches.

Regards, Indiana Bob

 69 
 on: October 05, 2018, 04:48:48 AM 
Started by Kenneth - Last post by Kenneth
Can anyone please help me?  Ray often quotes Strong's Dictionary with the page number in brackets. I have a Strong's Concordance but the page numbers do not correspond with the relevant page numbers that Ray would quote. Is there a way to get this in electronic format or do I need to get a hard copy? Thank you in advance for any help.

 70 
 on: October 04, 2018, 11:57:55 PM 
Started by Musterseed - Last post by Musterseed
Thanks Wanda, you are a research engine.🤓
I like Ibobs comment more than the people in the video. Thanks Ibob. ❤️

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