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rick

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the folded napkin
« on: August 12, 2007, 05:48:57 PM »

Joh 20:4  So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.
Joh 20:5  And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.
Joh 20:6  Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
Joh 20:7  And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
Joh 20:8  Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.

Why did Jesus fold the linen burial cloth after His resurrection?
This is very, very good!

The Gospel of John (20:7) tells us that the napkin, which was placed
over the face of Jesus, was not just thrown aside like the grave
clothes. The Bible takes an entire verse to tell us that the napkin was
neatly folded,and was placed at the head of that stony coffin.

Early Sunday morning, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the
tomb and found that the stone had been rolled away from the
entrance.She ran and found Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one
whom Jesus loved. She said, "They have taken the Lord's body out of the
tomb, and I don't know where they have put him!" Peter and the other
disciple ran to the tomb to see.The other disciple outran Peter and got
there first. He stooped and looked in and saw the linen cloth lying
there, but he didn't go in. Then Simon Peter arrived and went inside.
He also noticed the linen wrappings lying there, while the cloth that
had covered Jesus' head was folded up and lying to the side.

Is that important? Absolutely! Is it really significant? Yes!
In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin, you have to
understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day...
The folded napkin had to do with the Master and Servant,
and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.When the servant set the dinner
table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master
wanted it.
The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out
of
sight, until the master had finished eating, and the servant would not
dare touch that table, until the master was finished. Now if the master
was done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his
mouth,and clean his beard, and would wad up that napkin and toss it
onto the  table.The servant would then know to clear the table. For in
those days, the wadded napkin meant, "I'm done".  But if the master
got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his
plate, the servant would not dare touch the table, because the servant knew
that the folded napkin meant, "I'm not finished yet."
The folded napkin meant, "I'm coming back!"

HE IS COMING BACK!


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Beloved

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 06:31:07 PM »

Great.. interesting point.

Beloved
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Deborah-Leigh

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 06:41:48 PM »


Thank you for that Rick. 8)

Peace to you

Arcturus :)
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iris

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 07:02:07 PM »

Rick,

That was interesting.
Thanks for sharing.

Peace and Love
Iris
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DuluthGA

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 09:57:06 PM »

THANK YOU RICK!  Great!



Janice

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gmik

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 10:07:58 PM »

YAHOOOOO  YAHOOOOO   YAHOOOOO  YAHOOOOOOO
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John9362

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 10:36:55 PM »

Excellent post Rick.....many thanks....enjoyed it very much (unlike some of your jokes  ;D) sorry mate couldn't help my self !!

Love you brother ;)

John9362
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rick

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2007, 10:41:43 PM »

YOU ARE ALL VERY WELCOME! I LOVE YOU ALL! IN CHRIST.............RICK
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DuluthGA

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2007, 11:10:39 PM »

Great love to you too brother in Christ!!

I just have to ask something I've always wondered about regarding the following that is sort of related...

John 20: 17a    Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:

Does anyone know what the significance of not being able to touch Jesus although He had a form that could be seen?  Was it a physical form.  I presume so.  Then why couldn't it be touched?  Just curious, don't get it.

Thanks again!
Joyously, Janice  :)

Update to this post on 8/25/07:

Ray covers the topic of "touching Jesus" after His ascension in the following email:

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5343.0.html



« Last Edit: August 25, 2007, 05:51:05 PM by DuluthGA »
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LittleBear

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 10:35:44 PM »

I always wondered about that. I have no idea, but maybe someone does.

Love,

Ursula
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pylady

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 01:15:56 AM »

Just wondering -

Does the scripture in John regarding the folded up face covering tie in with these scriptures?

Ex 34:33 "And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a veil on his
             face."

Ex 34:34  "But when Moses went in before the Lord to speak with Him, he TOOK
               THE VEIL OFF, until he came out."

2 Cor 3:13  "And not as Moses who put a veil over his face, that the children
                of Israel could not steadfastly look to the end of that which is
                abolished.
          :14  "But their minds were blinded: for until this day remainith the same
                  veil untakeneth away in the reading of the old testament; which
                  veil is done away in Christ."
           :15  "But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their
                  heart."
           :  "Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken
               away."



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pylady

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 01:27:39 AM »

OOPS!  ::)

Forgot to say thank you, Rick, for explaining the significance of the face covering being folded.  Understanding the customs and traditions of the times
can certainly aide in our study of the scriptures.  Do you have any particular book or website you use?  I'd love to get my hands on a book like that!

Thanks again. ;D

 With Christian love,
               Cindy
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rick

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2007, 07:45:29 AM »

I received that from my mom. i will ask her how she knew when I call her this week. she is always studying and sends me wonderful tidbits at times...........rick
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cjwood

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2007, 03:49:06 AM »

Joh 20:4  So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.
Joh 20:5  And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.
Joh 20:6  Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
Joh 20:7  And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
Joh 20:8  Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.

Why did Jesus fold the linen burial cloth after His resurrection?
This is very, very good!

The Gospel of John (20:7) tells us that the napkin, which was placed
over the face of Jesus, was not just thrown aside like the grave
clothes. The Bible takes an entire verse to tell us that the napkin was
neatly folded,and was placed at the head of that stony coffin.

Early Sunday morning, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the
tomb and found that the stone had been rolled away from the
entrance.She ran and found Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one
whom Jesus loved. She said, "They have taken the Lord's body out of the
tomb, and I don't know where they have put him!" Peter and the other
disciple ran to the tomb to see.The other disciple outran Peter and got
there first. He stooped and looked in and saw the linen cloth lying
there, but he didn't go in. Then Simon Peter arrived and went inside.
He also noticed the linen wrappings lying there, while the cloth that
had covered Jesus' head was folded up and lying to the side.

Is that important? Absolutely! Is it really significant? Yes!
In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin, you have to
understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day...
The folded napkin had to do with the Master and Servant,
and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.When the servant set the dinner
table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master
wanted it.
The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out
of
sight, until the master had finished eating, and the servant would not
dare touch that table, until the master was finished. Now if the master
was done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his
mouth,and clean his beard, and would wad up that napkin and toss it
onto the  table.The servant would then know to clear the table. For in
those days, the wadded napkin meant, "I'm done".  But if the master
got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his
plate, the servant would not dare touch the table, because the servant knew
that the folded napkin meant, "I'm not finished yet."
The folded napkin meant, "I'm coming back!"

HE IS COMING BACK!



the analogy in your posted story regarding the significance of the folded napkin is another example of the little things in God's awesome scriptures that carry such large important meanings.  it is things like this that caused me to cry out to God so many nights ago asking Him to show me the Truths, the hidden gems in His scriptures, that are there for the finding if we will only dig deeper.  Nothing in His amazing scriptures is insignificant.  like ray says, "pay attention to the words".  all the words lead to His Word.  thanks rick again for your wonderful posts.  i always get excited when i see your name in this particular section of the forum because you always have something great to share.

cheers to you bra,
claudia
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D Student

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Re: the folded napkin
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2007, 06:50:17 AM »


  CJ, great post. And make sure you tell Mama Wood thanks for sharing the info...


   This reminded me of when I ran into something very helpfull to me.

   Matthew 27:51
                        "At once the curtain in the TEMPLE was torn in two from top to bottom."

   To any Catholic that has doubts, this is like a Mega Bomb of Scriptural Hints.
It truely does show even the minor things written, make a major difference in peoples lives
when they are in search of the TRUTH.

    It's even more amazing that I've seen this " vail ripping apart " in movies, but they don't mention
the meaning of it. There they go every Sunday/Saturday, going to service giving thanks and happy that
the old ugly curtain was done away with because,,, because,,, hummm, they don't know why...

                                                                                         D Student

P.s.  I'm pretty sure this has been coverd several times,
      but this will be something new to somebody...


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