[This is the second
email Ray received from a Florida Bible College student named Robert]
Just a note. I am sorry I did not mean to get you upset. But the
class of Comparative Religions is not only interesting but demanding. I perhaps should
have worded it better.
My professor says hello also. He had the other students visit other web sites also. We
view your web site directly in class.
But he did tell me to tell you that your doctrine is contrary to Billy Graham, Billy
Sunday, D.L. Moody, Charles Wesley, Charles Spurgeon, the Fist Apostles Creed that was
established in 70 A.D., but most important Jesus Christ and the Scriptures.
But your doctrine and he quotes your web site in class, goes along with Charles Taze
Russell, founder of Jehovah Witness, Joseph Smith, founder of Mormon or Latter Day Saints,
Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science and Sun Young Moon founder of the
Though you may not consider yourself a cult you have many of their doctrines that go
against the Scripture and that these known cults hold fast too. He uses your material on
power point slide presentation to show the manner people go completely off the Scriptures
by criticizing men of the Gospel.
He asked me to ask you if you have reached the Gospel as these men on the Internet that
you criticize. Or if you have led these many as they to the Lord. Your response, as the
last one was, will be read in its entirety to the class.
FLORIDA BIBLE COLLEGE
Hello again. I received your second e-mail. I admit I find it hard to believe that your
professor will actually read this reply in its entirety to the class, I will, nonetheless,
take him at his word.
Why did you think that you "upset" me in our last correspondence? Robert, if you
knew all that I have gone through the past sixty years, you would know for sure that it
takes more than an e-mail to upset me. I think maybe the succinct manner in which I
answered with a little sarcasm thrown in caused you to think I might be upset. Not so. I
welcome your inquiries and equate your professor's labeling me a "cult" as just
so much persecution for which I am prepared. Rather than get upset, I just want to praise
God and Sing a Hymn.
I was not, and am not upset, but I don't want you or your professor to think that I am
naive either. Your professor is interested in my web-site because he has met his match.
Not in me, but in the simple, straight forward way in which the truths of God are
presented. He cannot Scripturally refute what I say and that bothers him a lot. He is
using you as a go-between to possibly ferret out of me something incriminating that he has
not personally been able to find in the material on my web-site. He knows enough about the
Scriptures to know that all of my statements are Scripturally sound and cannot be
truthfully disputed. So he reverts to name-calling, labeling, and asking demeaning
questions which he thinks will either anger me or case me to give a stupid answer. That is
unless you, Robert, came up with these question all on your own--did you?
Since you want more information, I will give you more information.
Let's look at your questions again:
You asked: "Do you hold that you and you alone have the correct
interpretation of the Bible?"
If you actually read my web-site you would have noticed that I ...
- Quoted numerous books and sources of material that correctly
interpret the Bible.
- At the end of my paper I gave a couple of addresses for additional
material by writers who correctly interpret the Bible.
- I reprinted an entire poem by Dorothea Day entitled "My
Captain" and stated the following: "Wow! This girl should have been a
theologian. One can go to church for many, many years, and not hear this much SCRIPTURAL
TRUTH." In case any didn't understand this comment, it is an acknowledgment that
other people DO know how to interpret Scriptures besides me! Also, at the end of my
And yet you would try to entrap me with an incriminating question
like "do you and YOU ALONE have the correct interpretation of
Furthermore, most of my material is devoted to showing how God, not I, interpret words and
When we read in the Bible that there were "aions" in the
PLURAL, "aions" in the PAST, a PRESENT "aion," an "aion" TO
COME, "aions" TO COME, the "aion of the aion," the "ion of the
aions," the "aions of the aions," and the "ENDS of the aions,"
then it doesn't take a rocket scientist or a Biblical scholar to know assuredly that the
Greek word "aion" CANNOT be translated "evers" or
"eternities," "evers" or "eternities" in the PAST, a PRESENT
"ever" or "eternity," an "ever" or "eternity" to
COME, "evers" or "eternities" TO COME, the "ever OF the
ever" or the "eternity OF the eternity" [it is "of" not
"and"--Greek genitive], "ever OF the evers" or "eternity of the
eternities," "evers of the evers" or "eternities of the
eternities," and the ENDS of the "evers" or "eternities."
Anyone in your class can check this out with a concordance. I
challenge you to prove me wrong on this one point. This one point totally destroys your
"eternal torment in hell" theory. COMPLETELY DESTROYS IT! There are THOUSANDS of
theologians who refuse to acknowledge this easily provable fact of Scripture. Why? They
know how to use a concordance and lexicon. Call me a "cult" if you must, but
Greek "aions" are NOT English "eternities!"
No one in your class will now be able, for the rest of his life, to deny that he has ever
been presented with the absolute Scriptural and etymological PROOF that there is no
eternal hellhole of torture mentioned in ANY SCRIPTURE OF THE BIBLE! If you continue to
teach this damnable heresy, it will be on your own head. Trust me when I tell you that you
will give an account one day to Jesus Christ for what you do with the information in the
And you thought that you could ridicule the very truths of God on my
web site and make great sport of me in front of the class and no one would ever be the
wiser. "Take heed when you think you stand...!"
You asked: "When you started your religion and new doctrine,
did you have any form of schooling or advanced training in the Bible?
That's one of those "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" questions. One is
guilty if he answers "yes" and guilty if he answers "no." What
religion and what doctrines do I have that are not Scriptural? Which ones did "I
START?" You didn't list a one. By the way, Have you stopped beating your wife? Just
You asked: "Do you believe that Jesus rose from the dead and is
the Messiah the son of God?"
That question is so incredibly inane in the light of all the material I have written on my
web-site that it hardly deserves an answer. But for the benefit of your class I will.
Letter to Dr. Kennedy, Page one,
"I LOVE the Scriptures..."
"Whatever we teach must 'GLORIFY' God."
"Whatever we teach must not detract one iota from Christ's
[Christ--the Anointed One, the Messiah] sacrifice for all humanity."
Page 5, "Now, if Christ has not been roused, vain is your
faith--you are STILL IN YOUR SINS." (Acts 15:16-18).
That is just how important the resurrection is, but according to you
and most Christian theologians, it isn't necessary at all, because you teach that man has
an immortal soul that goes directly to Heaven or Hell without resurrection and thus make a
mockery of the very Word of God."
My writings make it abundantly clear what I believe about Jesus
Christ and the importance of His resurrection from the dead. Robert, the question is not
do I believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that He rose from the dead.
The question is rather do you and your professor believe that Jesus was actually dead, and
that He rose from the dead?
I meticulously go through the Scriptures showing when Christ died, where His body went,
where His soul went, and were His spirit went. But, now I would be interested in seeing
the Scriptural proof for your belief that Jesus only partially died and will only
partially save humanity! I quoted dozens of Scriptures showing that in sheol (KJV's OT
- there is NO works,
- NOR device [NO contrivance,
- NO intelligence,
- NO reason]
- NO knowledge,
- NO wisdom,
- NOT anything,
- NO thoughts (Ecc. 9:10).
These things do not continue to function at a different location
during death: they PERISH in death (Psalm 146:4). I believe Psalm 146:4 that in death
everyone's "thoughts perish." That is, no one who IS dead, HAS THOUGHTS! I
believe that Scripture--do you? Or do you believe Satan's lie to Adam and Eve that man has
an "immortal soul" that never dies?
Must I denounce God and His Word and turn to Satan for doctrinal
truth regarding "death" and then I will be a member in good standing of
Christendom? NO THANK YOU!
Can you or your professor now show me any Scriptures that would contradict these verses by
showing that there really is "works, devices, intelligence, reason, knowledge,
wisdom, thoughts," etc., in either sheol, death, hades, hell, or the grave? (Lazarus
and the Rich man is, of course, a parable. See my letter to Mr. Hagee. I have forty pages
on this parable). If you could find such a Scripture, we would then have a contradiction
of the Scriptures, and I for one REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT GOD'S WORD CONTRADICTS!!!
Do you believe in Scriptural Contradictions? Dr. Frederick Price of
TBN fame does. He sent me a letter and a little booklet explaining that, "not
everything in the Bible is true," even when it is properly translated! Dr. Price is a
minister in good standing in the great institution of Christendom. He is not a
"cult" because he believes that not everything in the Bible is true. No,
apparently it is when one believes that everything in Scripture IS TRUE, that you label
him a "cult."
I believe that CHRIST ONLY has immortality! Do you believe that man
has an immortal soul?
I believe that dead people have NO THOUGHTS (Psalm 146:4). Do you
believe that dead people (in hades, sheol, the grave or wherever) have thoughts?
I believe that Jesus Christ will SAVE THE WORLD (Jn 3:17, 6:51, I Jn
2:2, II Cor. 5:19, Rom. 5:18, I Jn. 4:14, etc.)! Do you believe that Christ will save the
world? No, of course you don't.
Do you believe that God only "wants or wishes" to save the
Do you believe " ...our Savior, God, Who wants and wishes that
all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth" is a proper
translation of I Tim. 2:4?
Do you believe that "Who WILLS that ALL MANKIND BE
SAVED..." IS the proper translation?
Do you believe Isa. 46:11? "I have spoken it [as in He has
spoken it in I Tim. 2:4 for example] I WILL ALSO BRING IT TO PASS: I have purposed it, I
WILL ALSO DO IT."
And here is a double witness for the stubborn in heart:
"I AM GOD, and there is none like me. Declaring the end from
the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My COUNSEL
SHALL STAND, and I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE" (Isa. 46:9-10).
You CANNOT both believe that God "wills" to save all
mankind and that He will perform all His "pleasure" and bring about all that He
has "spoken," and yet...and YET believe that He will NOT save all mankind and
will NOT accomplish all His will and will NOT do all His pleasure and His counsel will NOT
stand!!! It is your doctrine that is one of enormous Scriptural contradiction, not mine.
I would like for you to explain that contradiction of major proportion to the class. I
would like to you explain it to me! And in the meantime be a little more careful who you
call a "cult!"
You asked: "Do you have another work other than the Bible that
you accept as inspired?"
I quote between one and two THOUSAND Scriptures on my web-site, and you think maybe I have
another book that I think is inspired? Like what? Maybe the Book of Mormon? Give me a
break! But on the other hand, you apparently believe that unscriptural manmade creeds are
You asked: "Do your followers hold you as a prophet or
First of all, I don't have "followers." I do, however, have a large pile of
e-mails sent by people thanking me for opening up their understanding of the Scriptures
for the first time in their church-going lives. For once in their lives they don't have to
agonize over whether Aunt Martha, daughter Crystal, or Grandpa Jones are frying in some
fabled eternal hellhole of fire. And although I am a priest in training (I Peter 2:9), I
am not a prophet.
You might conclude that some of my remarks are a little sarcastic, but then again I think
a little sarcasm is good! I love the way Elijah used it. Sarcasm has a way of cutting to
the chase! Jesus Christ used it too--see my examples of Christ "answering a fool
according to a fool" and "not answering a fool according to his folly" in
my letters to TBN.
I have a question: Has anyone actually read the material on my web-site in its entirety
and checked every Scriptural reference and documentation? Can anyone prove wrong
(specifically) what I have written? Can anyone show where I lied or told a falsehood? And
I don't mean like the person who e-mailed me and stated that I said there is no hell, and
then proceeded to list a dozen Scriptures from the KJV that had the word "hell"
in them. What kind of scholarship is that? I had already explained in some detail
(probably no less than 50-60 pages dealing with the doctrine of hell) that
"hell" is not a proper translation of any Hebrew or Greek word, and NOWHERE in
Scriptures is there a place where God burns the flesh of most of His children for
I don't claim to know it all by any means, so I will accept responsible criticism. The key
words being specific, detailed, reliable, on the subject, and to the point.
Your professor says "tell you
[that's me] that your doctrine is contrary to Billy Graham,
Billy Sunday..." etc., etc. Is he suggesting that that is a bad thing? Woe be
to me if my doctrine (I would rather believe that it is God's doctrine) is not contrary to
some of the more strange doctrines of these fine men. I'm sure all these men were fine,
however, their teachings are not always so fine.
Maybe just one or two comments on the above statement. First, Billy Graham. It was
reported years ago that in a Billy Graham crusade when Mr. Graham called for people to
come to the altar to accept Jesus Christ he make a statement similar to the following:
"Don't pray for these people who are making their decision for Christ at this time.
It is fine if you prayed for them before and it is fine if you pray for them afterwards,
but right now the decision must be theirs and theirs ALONE." Statements like that
from the clergy overwhelm me--completely overwhelm me! As though a man or woman could
actually make such a decision to "come to Christ" on their own without God.
Not only are such teachings foolish, they are unscriptural. Is not the time when one makes
a decision to accept Jesus Christ as his lord and savior the most important moment of
one's life? If ever there was a time when one absolutely needed God's help to make the
right decision, it would have to be right then and there. But Mr. Graham would suggest
that this is a time when one must not have God's help. People were instructed not to pray
for someone in the hour of their greatest need!
What Mr. Graham suggests should be done at such a time, the Scriptures clearly show CANNOT
BE DONE! That we make a conscious decision to "come to Christ" is indeed true.
That we make or can make such decision on our own WITHOUT God's intervention is sheer
foolishness. And Mr. Graham is not alone in this unscriptural nonsense. I heard John Hagee
say, "I'm not saved because my grandmother believed ... I am saved because I found
Him [Jesus Christ] BY MYSELF." Let us see if God agrees these carnal statements of
self-assurance and supposed free will:
"NOT ONE [not even Billy Graham or John Hagee, independent of God] is seeking out
God" (Rom. 3:11).
"Now what have you which you did not obtain? Now if you
obtained it also, why are you BOASTING as though NOT obtaining?" (I Cor. 4:7).
"Ye have NOT CHOSEN ME, but I have CHOSEN YOU, and ordained
you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit ..." (John 15:16).
"NO MAN CAN come to me, except the Father which hath sent me
DRAW HIM: and I will raise him up at the last day" (John 6:44).
And, "Therefore said I unto you, that NO MAN CAN COME unto me,
except it were GIVEN unto him of my Father" (Ver. 65). Why steal credit for what God
has freely given?
Now then, according to the above Scriptures (not Billy Graham or
John Hagee, but the above SCRIPTURES), is it possible to come to Christ at a Billy Graham
crusade or anywhere else, WITHOUT the direct intervention of both Jesus Christ and God the
Father giving you the faith, desire, and ability TO COME to Christ in the first place? I
rest my case.
On this one point, professor, you are correct, my doctrine which I
get from Rom. 3:11, I Cor. 4:7, John 15:16, and John 6:44,65, IS "contrary" to
the teachings of Billy Graham and John Hagee (not to mention most of Christendom), who
have NO Scriptural support for their doctrine of humanistic self determinism.
Those lacking faith to even believe the Scriptures, are hardly in a position to criticize
After the terrorists' attack on September 11, Mr. Graham announced from the National
Cathedral in Washington D.C. to the entire world that, "God is NOT the author of
evil!" My jaw dropped when I heard that. Mr. Graham apparently wanted to protect God
from any association with "evil." But by doing so, he contradicted the
Scriptures and made God out to be a liar. Oh I am sure he didn't consciously think he was
doing such a thing, but that is the reality of his comment.
The Scriptures are clear:
"I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is NO GOD BESIDE
ME ... I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL: I the Lord do
ALL THESE THINGS" (Isa. 45:5 & 7).
I've heard people say that this verse means that God creates the
"potential" for evil. These are the same Christians that believe Jesus is the
"potential" savior of the world. God has something to say about adding
contradictory words to His Word!
The real problem with Mr. Graham's comment is that he does not understand the fact that
God is the creator of evil. And since he doesn't understand it he obviously doesn't
approve of God being the creator of evil, so he then contradicts the Scriptures in order
to make people feel good about a God Who has nothing to do with the authorship of evil.
Never mind for the moment that this is the same God that Mr. Graham believes will torture
most of humanity for eternity in FIRE (now that is evil far beyond anything that God has
declared in His Word).
For those of you who are just dying to know, Yes, God is the creator of evil, but God uses
evil always for a good and righteous purpose. Evil is a backdrop necessary for the display
of good. The word evil itself has no moral bias. Men sin when they do evils to others. God
never sins. Try to name a virtue that is not the result of overcoming some form of evil.
At the consummation, evil, just as death, will be abolished.
I noticed that Martin Luther was conspicuously missing from your "Who's Who in
Protestantism" list. Maybe that was because of his understanding of the Sovereignty
of God verses man's fabled free will?
Your professor's statement about the "Apostles' Creed" was intriguing.
Established in 70 AD was it? And I suppose their is Scriptural or historical documentation
to that effect? Is he choosing such an early date because he is suggesting that this creed
was actually written by the Apostles?
My Encyclopaedia Britannica has this regarding the creed:
"Scholarship has shown CONCLUSIVELY that the received text
given above [the one commonly recited today] is an elaboration of the baptismal creed of
the Roman church in the 3rd and 4th centuries. The text of the latter has been recovered
in Latin from Rufinus' commentary on the Apostles' Creed (c. 404) and in Greek from a
letter sent by Marcellus of Ancyra to Pope Julius I in 340. The FACT that the Greek almost
certainly represents the original is a testimony to its antiquity."
Big difference between 70 AD and the forth century AD, however.
Also, if you care to note, the original rendition of this creed did not contain the words
"descended to hell" as it does today. I have zero interest in
"creeds." If I am to be condemned or branded as a "cult" for not
believing in unscriptural, manmade "creeds," so be it! Why get bogged down with
unscriptural creeds when we have GOD'S WORD?
And just how serious is that little addition, "descended to hell?" Well, as I
stated in my last communication, if Christ was not REALLY DEAD during the three days and
three night that He was in the tomb, but as this Apostles' Creed suggests was rather
traveling about some fabled hellhole, then YOU DON'T HAVE A SAVIOR! If you students are as
"demanding" as you suggest, Robert, then I wish and pray above all things that
they will DEMAND THE TRUTH! Never, EVER, settle for less than the absolute Scriptural
But it is I who am a "cult," is it? I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe this
Easter heresy. Easter? EASTER? How is it Christians associate the resurrection of Jesus
Christ with "Easter" the pagan goddess of Spring, Easter, and the pagan goddess
of Babylon, Ishtar? Does anyone in their right mind really believe that pascha=passover,
should be translated "Easter?" (Acts 12:4). Easter has about as much to do with
the resurrection of our Lord and Savior as do Easter eggs or the Easter bunny.
I take great exception to the statement that my "doctrine is
contrary to ... Jesus Christ and the Scriptures."
Get specific and show me were. No, not by comparing me with someone
else you disagree with, but by showing specifically in my writings--chapter, sentence,
verse, word, etc., that what I said is wrong or untrue and SPECIFICALLY prove from
Scripture that my statements are wrong. I have written hundreds of pages on my site so I
would think you could easily find at least two hundred examples of error. What do you
think? Tell you what. Let's just come up with twelve good, solid examples of where my
teaching is false and unscriptural. That should be a relatively easy task for you as you
state that, "...you have MANY of their doctrines that go
AGAINST THE SCRIPTURE ..." But I am not the least bit interested in how you
think I go against Billy Graham or Billy Sunday.
You used the phrase "against the
scriptures," so I want you to show me how my teaching goes against the
"Scriptures." And not the King James Bible either, but THE SCRIPTURES! The words
"hell," "eternal" "for ever and ever" and "Easter"
are "bible" words not SCRIPTURE! God never used any one of those words, and that
is very easy to prove. See my article: EXPOSING THOSE WHO CONTRADICT, Part 6.
Continuing what your professor said regarding my writings: "But
your doctrine and he quotes your web site in class, goes along with Charles Taze Russell
... Joseph Smith ... Mary Baker Eddy ... And Sun Young Moon ..." Not only is
that statement unfair, but it is totally untrue. Maybe there is even a point or two that I
would agree with one or even two of these religious leaders, but how does that equate to,
"But your [that's me] doctrine [singular--meaning my whole belief system, I guess]
GOES ALONG WITH..." This is a dishonest and vague generalization.
I'm sorry but I don't know your professor's name, however, if I where to ask him if he
believes in "honoring his parents, teaching his children, loving his wife, and
obeying God," would he not probably reply in the affirmative?
Now just what if, just "what if" mind you, I
then would produce a taped video of Usama bin Laden stating that he also believes in
"honoring his parents, teaching his children, loving his wife, and obeying God,"
and that I would then publicly state that your professor's doctrines go "RIGHT ALONG
WITH" the beliefs and doctrines of Usama bin Laden? Never mind the fact that he also
believes in the mass murder of innocent people! Would that be fair of me to make such a
comparison? Is that responsible scholarship? Then why does he do that to me? Let's now
look at something interesting and revealing concerning your professor's accusations.
I do not have the time nor the inclination to defend myself against such nonsense,
however, for the benefit of the class I'll pursue this just a bit further. I have a book
entitled Religions in America by Leo Rosten. It does not contain most of the
"cult" leaders you yoked with me, however the first one in this book that is on
your list is Christian Science. The information regarding that religions' beliefs was
written by George Channing and approved by the Mother Church, The First Church of Christ,
Scientist, Boston, Massachusetts. Let us now see if my beliefs "GO ALONG WITH"
that of Christian Science as your professor asserts. I will quote every tenant of their
basic premise listed on page 39:
WHAT IS THE BASIC PREMISE OF
"That God is divine Mind, the conceiver of man
and the universe, and Mind is all that exists. Mind expresses itself and its expression is
Comment: I don't believe that, nor do I teach it!
"Spirit is eternal and real; matter is an
unreal illusion subject to decay and dissolution."
Comment: I don't believe that, nor do I teach it!
"Evil has to do with matter--therefore evil is
unreal, an illusion."
Comment: I don't believe that, nor do I teach it!
"Spirit and its expression, man, are
indestructible. Death is an illusion of mortal sense, which may continue to appear until
destroyed by spiritual sense, either on this or the other side of the grave. The
individual continues to live [CONTINUES to live after death?--come on, Robert, Christian
theologians believe this unscriptural religious nonsense, NOT I] even though unseen by
persons on our plane of existence."
Comment: Need I say it? I don't believe that, nor do I teach it!
Contrary to Christian Science, God can and does DESTROY people. But contrary to Christian
teaching, God will also find those who are lost and save those who have been destroyed. It
may take get future ages of judgment and chastisement to accomplish this for the whole
human race and the whole heavenly host, but according to God's Word, it will be
accomplished (Isa. 46:10-11).
There is nothing that will prevent God from saving all of His children, which is His
heart's desire and His VERY WILL (I Tim. 2:4). Do not you Christians pray: "Thy will
BE done...?" I absolutely, with every fiber of my being, believe that I Tim. 2:4 will
be accomplished and God will save all MANKIND! Maybe that is why you call me a
Don't accuse my doctrine of "GOING ALONG WITH" this unscriptural fable when in
reality it is your doctrine that perpetuates this pagan doctrine of the ungodly Egyptians!
I Think we would do well to remember our Lord's admonition to Capernaum who's judgment
(correction, not eternal pain I fire), will be more severe than even Sodom's judgment
because of the great testimony Capernaum witnessed in the person of Jesus.
Likewise, the Egyptians were ignorant regarding man's mortality and
need for a Savior and will be judged less harshly than Capernaum in the day of judging.
You, however, have God's Word which tells us that man's only hope for life is a
resurrection from the dead and the receiving of immortality from God, and yet ... and YET
you cling to, follow, and teach the same old pagan Egyptian fable about immortal souls!
But it is I who am the "cult?"
It is so sad that most Christians deny that God will accomplish His will of saving all
mankind. It is so sad that most Christians believe that Jesus Christ will UTTERLY FAIL to
save the world. He came for that purpose! Read I John 4:14,
"...the Father has dispatched the Son, the SAVIOR OF THE
WORLD." Other translations have,
"...TO SAVE the world,"
"...AS the savior of the world,"
"...to BE THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD."
Yet Christian theologians and clergymen say that IT WILL NEVER
HAPPEN!! Unbelievable. I BELIEVE God when He says He will reconcile ALL! He will save ALL!
He will be All in ALL (I Cor. 15:28) Why don't YOU believe it?
Most doctrinal differences are of little consequence in comparison
with the enormous consequence of teaching eternal torment. Hence, I spend a good bit of
time of this subject. I do write on other subjects too. I have recently written the
following: "Is God a Closed Trinity or an Open Family?", "Exposing the
Secret Rapture Theory," and "Tithing is Unscriptural Under the New
Dr. Kennedy who has a half dozen doctorate degrees has concluded that contrary to all such
Scriptures as I Tim. 2:4, John 12:32, Phil. 2:10-11, I Cor. 15:22 & 26 & 28, Col.
1:20, I Cor. 3:15, I Tim. 4:11, John 3:17, John 6:44, Jude 24, I John 2:2, etc., etc.,
that not only will God not save all mankind, but that He will not even reach all mankind,
He will not even call all mankind. He concludes that if people in India or Africa or the
islands of the sea don't even get to hear the gospel they will burn in hell for ever
anyway because they were sinners to some degree. He does state that they would be saved
without Christ (yes, that's what he said, WITHOUT Christ) if they would merely live a
Unbelievable! But it is I who am the "cult"?
Dr. Kennedy gives examples of some who "lie" and others who "steal chickens
by night" therefore deserving to be burned in hell with fire for trillions and
trillions and trillions of billions of quadrillions of centuries without end and without
hope and without mercy. This, says Dr. Kennedy, "IS FAIR!!!" This, says Ray
Smith, "is UNSCRIPTURAL INSANITY!!!" This is heresy in the highest! This is
BLASPHEMY against our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and our Loving Heavenly Father on a
level unparalleled in the annuls of the history of the universe! And it is this evil
unscriptural teaching that is causing God's name to be blasphemed among the nations today!
Let a Federal judge sentence a boy to life in prison for 'walking on the grass' and see
what an outcry one would get from Christians. Sentence that same boy to ETERNITY IN THE
FIRES OF HELL, for "telling a lie" and I guess those same Christians would
APPLAUD! Kennedy says if people go to hell and burn for eternity in FIRE, that it "is
fair." I heard him with my own ears, "HELL IS FAIR!" Certainly at least one
person in your class can see and feel how disgustingly evil and SICK is this Christian
doctrine of eternal torture in FIRE? Is there not even one of you who demands Scriptural
proof before parroting these unscriptural and evil doctrines of Dante and the Egyptians?
But the truly good news is that such an evil doctrine is NOT TAUGHT in the God's Word.
And, it is EASY to prove that this doctrine is not taught in God's Word. The peace of mind
that truth will bring is worth thousands of hours of Bible research, but in reality, you
can prove it in less than one hour--read the first ten pages of my letter to John Hagee. I
prove it there. No, it's not just my opinion or my doctrine. I PROVE IT! In fact, it is
EASY to prove! A ten year old child can understand it. I am serious. Read it. Study it. If
you have the Spirit of God you will just thrill at the assurance that God will accomplish
His Will and that Christ really IS the Savior of the whole world!
Did you all read the section in my paper on why Charles Darwin rejected Christianity and
devoted his life to turning the world into atheists? Oh, you have got to read that--it is
a real eye-opener!
Are you all ready to give an account in front of Jesus Christ and
all the holy messengers as to why you teach that Jesus Christ is going to utterly fail in
saving the world, and why His Father is then going to TORTURE, UNMERCIFULLY, WITH FIRE,
THE MAJORITY OF THE HUMAN RACE (INCLUDING BOYS, GIRLS , GRANDMOTHERS AND GRANDFATHERS, THE
INSANE, THE RETARDED, PREGNANT WOMEN, AND EVERYONE [see my second letter to Kennedy
answering his sermon, What About Those Who Have Never Heard] WHO HAS NEVER HEARD THE
"BELIEVE OR BURN" GOSPEL OF CHRISTENDOM?! Are you ready to face your maker and
Scripturally defend this depraved teaching?
After removing the unscriptural words "hell," "for
ever and ever," and "eternal" from your King James, what one Scripture is
left to support such a damnable heresy?
On September 11, I watched in horror and total disbelief as those American jet airliners
crashed into the World Trade Center! And when the towers began to collapse I just didn't
know what to think. This was not special effects in a Hollywood adventure film. This was a
LIVE news telecast. The horror of the people in the planes, the pain from the fire and the
crushing steal and concrete in the towers. Truly all sane people were emotionally shocked
beyond words to describe by the specter. How awful!!! Many times I heard the phrase
"those poor INNOCENT people."
What would you say to comfort the wives and husband and parents and
children of all those victims? Would you not try to console them with some words of
comfort and hope from God's Word? But what if the "innocent" victim was a
nonbeliever? What hope for their deceased loved ones would you give to the survivors of
nonbelievers? Would you tell them that although they were the "innocent" victims
of terrorists, they are now the guilty victims of the terror of God Almighty? Would you
tell them that their loved ones are burning in fire that is a thousand times hotter and
more frightening and painful than the fire that killed them in the towers?
What if the victim was Jewish? A lot of Jews were killed in that
terror attack. And Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ or His sacrifice for them. They deny
their Savior. Jesus said He would deny those who deny Him. Does that mean they are now
being tortured and will never be saved?
I sure know what I would tell them. And I could comfort them from the Old Testament or the
New Testament. I could comfort Jew, Gentile, Saint, or atheist! I know hundreds of
Scriptures of comfort and hope for both survivors and victims. Only in the shallow wells
of Christendom do we run out of hope and mercy were love then always FAILS!
According to your Christian doctrine God loved those nonbelievers
with all the love in the universe--while the towers were coming down. But if any
nonbelievers were too ignorant or too frightened to turn to God on the way down, then when
they hit the bottom God's love for them "failed."
According to Christendom, from that moment on, God's love turned to
the most ungodly hatred and sadism ever conceived in the deranged min of an insane demon!
Does anyone have a Scripture that says God loves His children one second and then hates
them the next second?
But I do believe there is a Scripture that says God changes NOT!
This is the DARK SIDE of the "Good News Gospel" of Christendom. This is heresy
and blasphemy of the highest magnitude!!! But it is I who am a cult?
And yet ... AND YET, theologians like Dr. Kennedy would have us believe that for the
unbelieving victims of that horror, September 12th would be a million times worse than
September 11th! According to Kennedy, the pain and horror of September 11 came to a quick
end, but the pain and horror of September 12 is eternal and will NEVER END!!! And he is
spending millions and millions of dollars teaching this garbage to the world! But if I
spend three hundred a month merely quoting God's Scriptures that show the truth regarding
these men's heresy, then I am a "cult" am I?
Who among you has the self-righteous audacity to tell all the children of those destroyed
Jewish fathers and mothers that their mommy and daddy are being burned in the fires of
hell for all eternity? Think about that, professor! Think about it long and hard, Robert!
Think about it, classmates. Think about it until your brains hurt! Think about this
damnable doctrine of Satan until God's spirit crushes your heart with sorrow for ever even
thinking that your heavenly Father would treat His children so inhumanely and insanely
with fire for all eternity!!!
Then read my letters to Kennedy and Hagee and see how clearly God's Word (yes, I said
God's Word--not my opinion, not my doctrine, but GOD'S WORD) teaches that Jesus Christ
really is the savior of all mankind, of the whole world. Then praise God like you've never
praised God before!
GOD ONLY knows how much I hate and despise this damnable doctrine of Christendom!!! This
doctrine of eternal torment is the most evil idea or concept that has ever entered the
mind of Satan. There is nothing conceivable in the universe that can equal this damnable
doctrine of eternal evil and suffering. One could think and meditate for a hundred years
and never come up with ANYTHING that approaches the vileness of this teaching. And for NO
redeeming value. It is so unbelievable that Satan could ever conceive of anything so
hideous! So sick! So frighteningly disgusting! But to think that the church would embrace
it and teach it as though it were Scripture is ... I don't know ... I don't have the
words. This is not just a false teaching. This is the epitome, the apex, the zenith, of
You can say that I believe contrary to Graham, Spurgeon, or Sunday, but I guarantee you
that the early church fathers did not believe in the unscriptural heresy of endless
torture. Among those who saw God' greater glory in the greater hope of salvation to all
are, Origen, Eusebius, St. Ambrose, St. Gregory, Didymus (of whom S. Jerome said,
"Didymus surpassed all of his day  in knowledge of the Scriptures). "The
Eastern Church of that time (fourth and fifth centuries) was permeated, from Gregory of
Nyssa downwards, with the wider Hope [that of universal reconciliation]. See Spirits in
Prison, Ch. iv. Also: Diodorus (378), Bishop of Tarsus, St. Chrysostom from the school of
Antioch, and the list goes on and on. And many of these men read the Scriptures in their
original languages long before the KJV started inserting such nonsensical incoherency as
"for ever AND EVER" into its pages.
The evidence is available in both secular history and the Scriptures. Most intoxicated
with the liquor of Christendom, however, have no desire to know the truth. "Indeed,
beside Origen, Gregory of Nyssa also, Gregory of Nazianzus, Basil, Abrose himself, and
Jerome, taught everywhere the universal restitution of things, asserting simultaneously
with it, AN END OF ETERNAL PUNISHMENT."--C.B. SCHLEUTER, pref. In Erig, (Migne.)
Read, Christ Triumphant By Thomas Allin.
This doctrine makes God out to be a LIAR when He said that it is His WILL to save all
mankind. This doctrine makes God and our Lord out to be FAILURES in accomplishing Their
wills. And far worse, this doctrine makes God out to be the most vindictive, hate-filled,
evil, alien monster in the universe.
It would more than behoove each and everyone of you to study this
doctrine in the light of those who have been graced to see the truth of this unscriptural
teaching. The truth is available. I am not the first or only to see and understand it. It is relatively easy to see and prove that the
Scriptures do NOT teach eternal torment for the unbelievers. Surely you all have enough of
the spirit of God to spend a few hours settling this issue of paramount importance. And
those with virtually no Scriptural knowledge who are eager and comfortable teaching this
doctrine of eternal torment only display the baseness of their unmerciful and unregenerate
Not one of you has ever meditated for even five minutes on the mind-boggling enormity of
suffering the torture of having one's eyes and face and arms and stomach and back and legs
burned with FIRE-NEVER-ENDING INSANE TORTURE WITH FIRE! For trillions and trillions of
ages without end. No, you never meditated for five minutes of the enormity of eternity.
Don't even try to tell me you have ever meditated on the enormity of eternal torture. Your
mind will close down after 5-10 seconds. One CANNOT continue to picture trillions and
trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of quadrillions of centuries of such
enormous insane torture and suffering! God is using this doctrine to show us just how LOW
our opinion of our Loving, Kind, Merciful, Heavenly Father can go! We should all fall on
our faces and cry in abject EMBARRASSMENT AND GUT-WRENCHING SHAME for ever believing our
Great God would ever torture most of His Children in fire for eternity!!
Benny Hinn said one day on TBN that there are people who will not be saved because there
is not enough money to reach everyone. He was making a plea for contributions, and idea
was that if some listeners did not send money there would be people who wouldn't be
reached with the gospel and would go to hell before getting saved. Now I have information
that leads me to believe that Benny Hinn is an extremely wealthy man. So what does that
really say in regards to what he teaches on international television. Did he not see
Schindler's List? Does he not realize how many hundreds of soul could be saved if he
converted some of his wealth into the printed page or radio waves? Does he really (I don't
know, I am just posing the question to get us to think) believe more dollars would save a
I heard just this week that Paul and Jan Crouch are purchasing a new home for $5,000,000.
Paul and Jan believe that people who aren't reached with the gospel and do not receive
Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will be tortured in hell fire for ever. What do you
think? No, of course not, I don't begrudge Paul and Jan having a nice home, a beautiful
home, an extravagant home. But, seriously, one can buy such a beautiful and expensive home
for $500,000 and that would leave $4,500,000 toward saving souls who their right hand man,
Benny, says will be spending eternity in hell because there isn't enough money to reach
I live in a $50,000 condo and I am most appreciative for it. I seriously don't believe
that the Apostle Paul had even a $50 hut. Maybe we should all put our money were our
mouths are. Can we imagine one of these multi-multi-millionaire evangelistic tycoons
musing in heaven over the suffering of those in hell by saying: "Yes, and it's sad,
but I don't think God ever intended for me part with my gold-gilded and emerald-encrusted
trash can just so a few more thousand souls could be in heaven and not suffering the
tortures of hell fire for eternity." What do you think? Or is anyone thinking at all?
Do you even care?
But I'm the crazy one? I'm the religious cook? I'm THE CULT? I don't think so.
Sorry, I always get carried away a little when I contemplate the disgusting modern day
horrors being taught in the name of God. Back to Christian Science ...
"Man and the universe are made in the image and
likeness of the divine Mind, God, which conceives them. Mind is synonymous with Spirit,
Soul, Life, Truth, Love, Principle which means cause or origin)."
Comment: The Hebrew and Greek Scriptures use a DIFFERENT word for
every one of these so who could they possibly all be the SAME? So, NO, I do not believe
that, nor do I teach it.
"Man, the idea and image of God, is immortal,
perfect, wholly good, untouched and untainted by evil because man expresses God.'
Comment: I don't believe that, nor do I teach it. Christendom,
however, does teach that man has "immortality" in his soul and only his body is
mortal. Never mind that Job said man is "mortal" or that Paul said that Christ
ONLY has immortality. I wonder what part of the word "only" theologians do not
So there it is. I do not believe one aspect of the Christian Science premise--NOT ONE! And
yet your professor says that my doctrine "GOES ALONG with Christian Science." I
don't think that is a fair comparison. I don't believe everyone in your class will think
Next you say, "He [your professor] uses your material on power point slide presentation to show the manner
people go completely off the scriptures by criticizing men of the gospel."
That statement is completely off the mark. First of all I do not criticize these men. I
expose their unscriptural and heretical teachings. There is a big different you know.
I am positive that the theologians of Christ's day called "foul" when Jesus
"But woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! ... Ye
fools and blind ... full of extortion and excess ... whited sepulchres ... Ye serpents, ye
generation of snakes..."
I can just hear the chatter in the market place, "Oh, Sally,
how can that man attack and criticize our wonderful religious leaders that way? If he were
a man of God like he claims, he would never talk that way about our beloved teachers of
God's law! Why he breaks God's law, he heals on God's Sabbath, his disciples pluck corn on
the Sabbath, they don't even fast, and they are worse than the French who don't even wash!
He must be one of those false prophets and cults we have always been warned about. I cast
my vote to have him crucified!"
On the last page of my letter to Dr. Kennedy I explain what I am doing in critiquing his
sermon and why I am doing it. I explain what Paul instructed regarding "exposure,
rebuke, and entreaty." How could anything be clearer? Numerous times in my letters I
remark that I have nothing against these men, nor am I attacking their character or any
such thing. Your professor's assessment of what I am doing in my letters to TBN is wrong!
Any honest reader can clearly see that I deal with teachings, doctrines, and issues, not
people, character, and personalities.
Even more disturbing (not disturbing to ME, I expect such things, but I hate it when
people like your classmates are swept away by such spurious arguments) is the statement
that he uses my material to " ...show the manner people
[like me] go completely off the Scriptures..."
I use somewhere between one and two thousand Scriptural references
in my paper and you say that I go "completely off the
Scriptures" and rather just criticize these men of the Gospel. How could
anyone read my paper and believe such a fantastic thing? One doesn't need to believe what
I write, but one doesn't need to lie about what I write either.
Your professor says that
- I am a cult
- My doctrines go along with cult leaders
- I criticize men of the gospel
- I get completely off the Scriptures
- My doctrine is contrary to Jesus Christ
- My doctrine is contrary to the Scriptures
Look at that list. Your professor is criticizing me. He isn't
showing how specific doctrines I teach are wrong. He isn't showing where my doctrines are
contrary to Jesus Christ. He hasn't used one Scripture in your correspondence with me in
his criticism of me. Excuse me, but isn't he doing to me exactly what he is falsely
accusing me of doing? There's a word for this double standard--it's called hypocrisy!
You can try to associate me with infamous cult leaders, you can say that my teachings go
against the Scriptures and against Jesus Christ, you can belittle the fact that I don't
parrot the pillars of apostasy in the great "Who's Who" of Protestantism, you
can make great sport of me in front of your class. You can do a lot of things, but YOU
CAN'T SCRIPTURALLY DISPROVE THE TEACHINGS ON MY WEB-SITE! And furthermore, I think you
know that you can't.
Now to your last question. I don't mean to fault your grammar, Robert (it was never my
forte either), but I am not a hundred percent sure I understand the question. You asked: "He [your professor] asked me to ask you if you have reached the Gospel as these men on the
Internet that you criticize. Or if you have led these many as they to the Lord."
Okay, let me try to answer. Again I will contend that I don't criticize the
"men," but rather their heretical teachings and doctrines. Now, do I reach as
many people with the gospel as Dr. Kennedy and Pastor Hagee? Is that the question? I do
not have million and million and millions of dollars to buy air time as these men do nor
would ever I use their fraudulent chicanery in acquiring such money. And, I have had my
material on the Internet one year. My webmaster foots the bill for our site--a few hundred
dollars a month.
The real question here is, "Do these men reach ANYONE with the real gospel? I'm not
sure any of their listeners have ever heard the REAL gospel--the REAL GOOD NEWS! They
certainly reach people with some knowledge of Jesus Christ even if it is a highly
distorted view of His saviourhood--for that I am thankful. At least they are hearing
something and undoubtedly some lives are changed for the better. This, however, does not
justify teaching heresy along with a little truth.
I am not faulting these men for any good that they do. In the same way, I don't fault my
daughter for doing good, but I do correct her for doing bad. And let me tell you with God
as my Judge, that telling the world that God will NOT save most of humanity, but that He
WILL torture most of humanity in fire for ever , is bad ... very, very ... BAD! That is
NOT the good news of the Gospel! I am simply following the admonition of our Apostle Paul
"expose those who contradict." (Titus 1:9, Concordant
Literal New Testament).
They both gave sermons on monumental topics and contradicted the
Scriptures flagrantly. I pointed out these contradiction in great detail for the benefit
the many people who have never heard the whole truth regarding God's love for His
So "How many people have I reached in one year on my site with
the gospel?" I don't know. How many have I reached in my life? I don't know.
Two or three hundred [in 2001] people a day come to my web-site and only about 2% e-mail
me back. The e-mails are about three to one favorable. It is childish to sit around trying
to count how many people we reach. How many did you reach in the last year? I believe we
should teach the TRUTH of God's Word and leave the numbers up to God.
Well, it's been great fun (except talking about your eternal torment doctrine--that is
never fun), but I need to be about my other business, seeing as I work full-time and am
self-supporting. As I said, there are many ways that you can try to discredit what I
teach. We have seen six examples of that in your e-mail. But there is one way in which you
absolutely CANNOT discredit my teachings, and that is by using the Scriptures. I am going
to propose something. I don't normally do silly things like this, but then again I don't
normally get silly e-mails like yours either.
I propose that your professor go through my material on my web-site and prove it wrong
using the Scriptures of God's Word. Point by point; page by page. I will then donate $100
to your college. No he doesn't actually have to prove me wrong. All he has to do is just
TRY to prove what I say is wrong.Just "try" to prove me wrong point by point,
page by page, and the hundred dollars is yours. I don't think it wise to hold my breath.
Maybe a hundred dollars is not enough? One word of caution, however, he had better do his
Scriptural homework thoroughly in his rebuttal of my material, because I will then
publicly critique his rebuttal!
If nothing else, I pray to God that He will open your eyes to the truth that Jesus Christ
really is the savior of the whole world and that death and hell [hades] will be abolished
in the lake of fire.
You see, I know for a fact that Billy Graham, James Kennedy, and all
of you and your professor will be saved, it's just sad that not all of you believe that
people like me will be saved. A man e-mailed me this week who read my material and said
that I am hopelessly lost! Not just lost, but "HOPELESSLY" lost. And the person
who told me this claims to be a "Christian man." All I will say is,
"Expose those who contradict" (Jude 1:9),
"Judge NOT (Mat. 7:1)!" Our God is PERFECT.
Jesus Christ is PERFECT. God's plan is PERFECT. The consummation of
God's purpose will be PERFECT. How could anyone ever believe that God would fail at
accomplishing HIS OWN WILL? Talk about a lack of faith! God be with you, Robert, your
professor, your class, and your school as you all yield to His will and study to show
Sincerely and humbly in the name of Jesus Christ, The Savior of the whole world,
PS If you professor chooses not to read this e-mail to the whole class, I can mail copies
to the whole college and post it on my web site.