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brok54:
Hi Beth and everyone,

I too am experiencing a great deal of sadness.  My wife is still in bondage, reads her bible everyday and listens to bible studies from her church on the radio almost all day long.  She doesn't drive, so I have to take her to Wed. nite bible studies.  I sit with her because she doesn't like to sit alone and also because I love her.  But sometimes it's all I can do to not stand up in the middle of the "teaching" and scream "Blasphemy!"
For some reason, probably in accordance with God's plan, I don't have the ability to defend this wonderful faith with my wife and she has never come out on the losing end of any dispute we've ever had, so I'm in a very, deep, dark and lonely place.
A couple of times I inadvertently (really, not on purpose) left a page of Ray's teaching up on my screen when I had to leave for work or whatever.  When my wife confronted me with what she read it was something along the lines of..."that man is so filled with hate, how can you believe anything he writes?"...to which I reply .."uh, ummm, you don't understand..." or something really intelligent like that.
I was at a coffee house a couple of weeks ago and was reading one of Ray's teachings on my laptop when a girl (she was 27) walked up and asked if she could sit on the couch next to me.  I said sure and noticed she had a book with her titled "Death by Church".  I asked her what it was about and that started off a very interesting conversation that went on for at least an hour.  She listened to me and I listened to her.  It was extremely stimulating.  The words regarding what I now believe came to me easily and she was receptive.  She responded with relevant questions and I was able to answer.  I felt myself wishing I was about 20 yrs. younger and single.
But the fact is I'm neither.  I haven't been back to that coffee shop since that day, especially because she said she goes there regularly.  But as God is my witness, I really, really want to.
I added the story above just to illustrate how much I delight in being able to share this beautiful gospel and how very sad it makes me to not be able to do the same with my beautiful wife.
Beth, I'll pray for you and you can pray for me.  The Lord bless you all...

Dale Ray

aqrinc:

Dale Ray,

Your story is so very similar to mine, and does it ever hurt. I pray that GOD Would open her eyes and ears just a bit, but then HE Will, when it is The Right time. So until that day we must go on learning Patience and Humility, which teaches us that All is up to GOD To WILL And To DO.

george. :)

Samson:
Hi Beth,

           Glad your back, I don't think you know me, you were here long before I joined. When reading some
old Threads, I recall seeing your name BamBam. Interestingly, those are the initials of my full name, Bradley
Alan Mathews, Bam. I've tried to use that as password elsewhere, but it was never available. Remember,
only God can open the eyes and remove the scales of our loved ones. I guess it can probably teach us
patience, I know that hearing that is no consolation, but it's true. Remember, Love never Fails, we can
be the best Husband or Wife to our mate and leave the rest in God's hands. Sometimes the way we act
and react to our mates does more damage to whether or not they respond to these Truths or show
interest. I'm not directing this to you, because I've definitely been guilty of not being loving and
understanding enough. It would have been better if I had done less teaching and preaching and been
a better Husband, sometimes I'm a jerk.

                                            Kind Regards, Samson.

brok54:
Samson,

I can really relate to the last part of your last sentence.

bambam:
It thrills my heart to know that some of you remember me.  I had to leave because my husband and my pastor kind of gave me no other option.  Well, I guess I had an option.  I could have stayed, but now I understand that God took me away to strengthen me.  I studied my Bible independantly from what Ray taught because I needed to just hear the Lord and know in my heart what the truth was.  It is so hard in the beginning not to question whether or not you are being decieved, especially when you have been so steeped in the "church" and your husband and pastor tell you you are following a false prophet.  For a while I tried to leave it all behind me.  But every time I turned around, I would be refuting things said by the pastor from the pulpit in my head.  I was in church physically, but not mentally.   We got the internet back a few months ago and I tried my hardest to stay away from here to honor my hubby's wishes, but I just could not.  I hate worrying about getting caught with my hands in the proverbial "cookie jar", but I still could not stay away.  I have not told him yet, but I want to.  I am praying for the right time.  Usually though, things like that seem to happen at the most seemingly worst time for me. ;)   Ah, but God knows.  It's not coming here that I feel bad about, but the hiding it from my husband is tearing me up inside.  I don't keep secrets from him!!  And when I tell him, you can bet that the walls are going to come crumbling down, more than likely.  He will most likely go to our pastor and seek help.  Our pastor is a good man, he seems to genuinely love and care about evryone, that is another thing that makes this so hard.   Now I wait.  Waiting is hard, but I am waiting.  Thank you for the encouragement, and to those who are in the same boat-keep your chin up.  I completely understand the loneliness.  It is hard to spend every evening with my husband wishing we could discuss these spiritual things.  God is our rock, and shelter in time of storm.  Peace, love and blessings to you all!!

In the love of Christ,
Beth

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