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Marky Mark:

--- Quote ---I never understood why man feels such a need to convince others he is right.

Craig
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Craig,because what fun would it be to try and convince somebody that you[me,us] are wrong  ;) :D


Peace...Mark

lferretj:
I have found that when talking to others about Universalism, even when they say they would like to know more about it, really they don't.  They have too many biasis and can't see what your talking about or rather don't want to see your point of view.  Just the other day I was talking to my dad because he expressed interest and wanted to know what I was studying.  We talked but eventually when we disagreed, and I tried to say it another way he eventually just said I needed to pray more and walked off.  I was kinda shocked because he asked me and then didn't actually want to hear what I said.  As for posting  on Orthodox Christian forums I havn't had any experience.  I was talking with my old pastor but like you said we hit a brick wall.  Mostly because of context and translation issues.  I changed my approach with my old pastor--now I just ask questions from the Orthodox Christian POV and see how they answer.  Then watch how they explain away so many scriptures or just say we can't know the answer we just need faith and believe that everything will be all right.  It only affirms the Ultimate Reconcilliation view in my mind, that and I am really curious about their answers since their are so many views on such topics as the age of accountability, trinity, tithing, etc, etc, etc.  And each church validates it in their mind with a scripture and all think they are correct.   Their really is no use arguing with them as you've found out and as Ray has attested to in his replies to countless e-mails.  As for the need to convince others that we are right I don't believe that is the goal of most who try to share.  I would have to say that we want to share not to boost our ego in being right but sincerely wanting to help the individual find the truth and experience the freedom it brings.  But like my dad still says "you can't help anyone who doesn't want to be helped."
  lferretj

Craig:

--- Quote ---Craig,because what fun would it be to try and convince somebody that you[me,us] are wrong
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I find that I don't have to convince people of that. :D

Craig

Ninny:
Funny how that works, isn't it Craig? ;D
Kathy ;)

aqrinc:

More like you can't help anyone who does not even know they need help. That is why GOD Only Has Tasked Himself with that Job.

Isa 55:11
so shall be My word which shall fare forth from My mouth. It shall not return to Me empty, but rather, it does that which I desire, and prospers in that for which I sent it."

1Jn 4:14
And we have gazed upon Him, and are testifying that the Father has dispatched the Son, the Saviour of the world."

george. :)

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